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Vice President of the literature club vs Paranormal Investigator (Sayori vs Randolph Carter)

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now before you say this is a stomp

we are using their first keys only.

Randolph: 4

Sayori: 2

Incon: 6

10-B (first keys only. Base Sayori vs Human Carter)

no knowledge of each other.

both bloodlusted

speed equalized

battle takes place in the ddlc school with weapons aka pencils, frying pans, axe, etc.

Now sayori wants to kill carter because NO ONE INTERRUPTS THE LITERATURE CLUB. ESPECIALLY A NERD/POINDEXTER WITH GLASSES.
 
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So this is essentially an insane teenage girl trying to kill a 50+ year old man?

yep. but we made sure the location has plenty of weapons. (fire axe included in the school. plus extinguisher.)

oh and sayori knows the layout of the school. (i didn't mention it but this school is actually the DDLC school)
 
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So this is essentially an insane teenage girl trying to kill a 50+ year old man?
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Uh, idk, I could say Sayori due being a teen, but I also could say Carter due being an adult

teens do have the advantage of strength a bit. (a 50 year old man is a bit weak. not saying he isn't strong though. i'm just saying your muscles are a bit weak when your older)
 

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I like the idea a lot. I don't think this works as a VS match, but as a story, it'd be fun to see how Carter would interact with the Literature Club. (In fact, when I finish uploading some Lovecraft scans, I can prolly make a small revision for Carter)

This match is a bit weird, I'd call inconclusive. Maybe Carter has more chances to win by being a bit more athletic if The Silver Key is of any indication.
 
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incon probably

we can make the speed unequalized. anything to make it fair for both sides. since a bloodlusted carter is dangerous.

edit. if carter is more athletic. the speed should remain equalized.

and keep sayori bloodlusted while carter is not. because a 56 year old man does have decent strength.
 
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not knowledgeable on Doki characters, but if they are normal humans Carter should have a huge AP and durability advantage regardless of age since he's a male. a teenage girl clearly isn't doing anything to a 50 year old man without weapons.
 
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not knowledgeable on Doki characters, but if they are normal humans Randolph should have a huge AP and durability advantage regardless of age since he's a male. a teenage girl clearly isn't doing anything to a 50 year old man without weapons.

then i will place the location to be the ddlc school.

where there are plenty of weapons in the cafeteria and classes. (pencils, frying pan, and even a fire axe) (sayori knows the location very well)
 
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i mean schools can have that kind of stuff. there's only 3 locations in the ddlc school (in the game) but we can assume there are stuff like fire axes, extinguishers, and other things you might find in a school.
 
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I was going to suggest Yuri instead of Sayori, but I noticed that she doesnt have a profile

bern i agree but i decided to give sayori a leg up by placing her in a location with plenty of things you can use as weapons.

(fire axe is the best choice. since the school in ddlc looks like a regular school with has those kinds of things.)
 
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I like the idea a lot. I don't think this works as a VS match, but as a story, it'd be fun to see how Carter would interact with the Literature Club. (In fact, when I finish uploading some Lovecraft scans, I can prolly make a small revision for Carter)

This match is a bit weird, I'd call inconclusive. Maybe Carter has more chances to win by being a bit more athletic if The Silver Key is of any indication.

she's now in the ddlc school. (do schools have fire axes)?

she can also use the desks, pencils, a bunch of objects that you can improvise as weapons and others. so isn't that a bit more of an advantage for sayori.

not to mention fire extinguishers.

(i mean the game only shows you three 3 locations of the school but it doesn't differ from any ordinary school other than the girls having powers of course)

It is a public school and don't public buildings have fire axes because of osha laws.
 
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Eh, maybe, but she doesn't really have the skill to use said weapons effectively.

i mean she knows the ddlc school pretty well. it's possible she can use a axe pretty well.

is it okay to treat their school like a real life one? (can we assume they have axes, and stuff like a modern day school)
 

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Gonna vote Sayori simply because she is younger so should be stronger and more durable than Carter
 
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Gonna vote Sayori simply because she is younger so should be stronger and more durable than Carter

yeah because carter may be an adult but he's in his 50's. muscle starts to weaken a lot when your close to senior.

sayori on the other hand maybe a teen. but she's stronger a bit. age isn't a weakness for her.
 
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Anybody at the age of 50 has gotten into their fair share of fights lol

can't we just assume since this is in a school that sayori knows.

she can just hide and attack from nowhere. as well as possible use the fire extinguisher (if the axe isn't available use the fire extinguisher)

or hide in the gym and toss basketballs as weapons.

or throw desks at randolph
 
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Fair point.

Fair-ish point.

Sayori cannot pick up a fucking desk and throw it lol
i feel like the location makes it in favor of sayori.

she can just toss basketballs at his face or bash him and shoot the foam from the fire extinguisher to defeat him.

the foam can bother him a lot and fire extinguishers when bashed cause lots of pain and injury.
 
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that foam can cause eye injury and skin irritation. which should distract him long enough for sayori to land a good few hits in.
 
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i feel like the location makes it in favor of sayori.

she can just toss basketballs at his face or bash him and shoot the foam from the fire extinguisher to defeat him.

the foam can bother him a lot and fire extinguishers when bashed cause lots of pain and injury.
I still vote Sayori, but you didn't address how Sayori doesn't have the strength to throw a freakin' desk at someone lol
 
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I still vote Sayori, but you didn't address how Sayori doesn't have the strength to throw a freakin' desk at someone lol

yeah i agree with your point.

also while randolph does have glasses. i agree with the foam because it will get over everywhere on his face.
 
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Gonna vote Sayori simply because she is younger so should be stronger and more durable than Carter
he's a male so that makes no sense. She isn't in the same ball park as him at all if she's standard female human level.
 
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he's a male so that makes no sense. She isn't in the same ball park as him at all if she's standard female human level.

that's why the location matters. this is the ddlc school.

where a school should have fire extinguishers and hide.

a bloodlusted sayori should have access to those things. (she knows the layout of the school)
 
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that's why the location matters. this is the ddlc school.

where a school should have fire extinguishers and hide.

a bloodlusted sayori should have access to those things. (she knows the layout of the school)
she wouldn't be able to wield them as effectively as a grown man so I doubt her knowledge of the location would change much. especially since where a fire axe is would be common knowledge. voting for Carter.
 
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Kinda seems like a stomp since Randolph's only wincon, which sorta isn't even a wincon, is his possibly superior strength which he probably doesn't have.

Yeah, seems like a stomp.
 
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She is a teenager. It doesn't take a genius to be able to use a fire extinguisher or axe
she'd have a harder time wielding it due to lack of strength. not saying she couldn't use it effectively, but if both had weapons she'd be at a slight disadvantage still. And a blunt weapon isn't going to seal the deal since he can actually block it with some damage. if he gets in h2h range she dies instantly which is likely to happen.
 
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she'd have a harder time wielding it due to lack of strength. not saying she couldn't use it effectively, but if both had weapons she'd be at a slight disadvantage still. And a blunt weapon isn't going to seal the deal since he can actually block it with some damage. if he gets in h2h range she dies instantly which is likely to happen.
Why she dies instantly? She is a teenager and he is a old man, she can kick his balls to avoid directly grabs
 
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Why she dies instantly? She is a teenager and he is a old man, she can kick his balls to avoid directly grabs
kicking someone in the balls (especially someone that weak) isn't going to subdue someone in a fight when they are pumped by adrenaline. it could just enrage them actually. and this is assuming he doesn't block the attack or hit her first. 50 years old is not that old. and from the looks of it, Carter is still in alright physical condition. the physical gap between male and female is hilarious high. way too much for merely being 50 years old to change anything. and she's like 16 isn't she? she's not even fully developed physically. but it wouldn't matter even if she was. you're seriously underestimating the physical gap between genders. these are normal humans so real life logic applies unless she has some absurd feats only an adult male could pull off. and throwing a single seat japanese school desk is something an above average child could do to my knowledge. one punch is likely disabling or killing her outright if Carter punches hard enough. it would at least knock her to the ground and disorientate her to where shes practically lost the fight.
 
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kicking someone in the balls (especially someone that weak) isn't going to subdue someone in a fight when they are pumped by adrenaline. it could just enrage them actually. and this is assuming he doesn't block the attack or hit her first. 50 years old is not that old. and from the looks of it, Carter is still in alright physical condition. the physical gap between male and female is hilarious high. way too much for merely being 50 years old to change anything. and she's like 16 isn't she? she's not even fully developed physically. but it wouldn't matter even if she was. you're seriously underestimating the physical gap between genders. these are normal humans so real life logic applies unless she has some absurd feats only an adult male could pull off. and throwing a single seat japanese school desk is something an above average child could do to my knowledge. one punch is likely disabling or killing her outright if Carter punches hard enough. it would at least knock her to the ground and disorientate her to where shes practically lost the fight.
Kicking in the balls is going to, unless he is a Chinese dude who constantly train against pain and daily recives kicks and punches in the balls, and the logic of gender is not really valid unless u prove that men and woman are not equal in the verse
 
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She looks pretty weak tbh, even if she has like a fire extinguisher or an axe I think she's still gonna be very clumsy with it. Since Carter is a man, I think hes gonna have no problem restraining and strangling Sayori
 
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also she finds pencils in the school.

stuns him by kicking him in the balls.

and stabs him in the eyes with the pencils.
 
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She looks pretty weak tbh, even if she has like a fire extinguisher or an axe I think she's still gonna be very clumsy with it. Since Carter is a man, I think hes gonna have no problem restraining and strangling Sayori
Carter is an average 50 year old man while Sayori is a healthy teenager with a plethora of weapons at her disposal lol
 
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She looks pretty weak tbh, even if she has like a fire extinguisher or an axe I think she's still gonna be very clumsy with it. Since Carter is a man, I think hes gonna have no problem restraining and strangling Sayori

maybe not bash him. but you can shoot the foam. and while foam is non toxic. it can blind carter and burn his skin.
 
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She looks pretty weak tbh, even if she has like a fire extinguisher or an axe I think she's still gonna be very clumsy with it. Since Carter is a man, I think hes gonna have no problem restraining and strangling Sayori
"She looks pretty weak"

The same can be said to any normal human that isnt an average indian with 5 tons of muscles


and again, gender argument is not really good, first that females can deal with males in a fight, mainly when she literally has weapons in her side and knowledge of the place as well, she kick him in the balls gg
 
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Kicking in the balls is going to, unless he is a Chinese dude who constantly train against pain and daily recives kicks and punches in the balls, and the logic of gender is not really valid unless u prove that men and woman are not equal in the verse
no kicking someone in the balls will not immediately subdue them when they are pumped by adrenaline. people can literally get shot in non vital areas with firearms and still continue to fight if their adrenaline is pumping enough. and said kick is coming from someone far weaker than Carter. its not changing anything. she would have to avoid getting in melee range of him to get a good weapon. and a blunt weapon like a fire extinguisher isnt likely to give her the win since its not even a real weapon. you'd have to hold it on both sides and be able to only strike in essentially one effective way. it'd be easy to avoid and then counterattack. and if she somehow escaped Carter long enough to get something like an axe, Carter could easily just run away once he sees she has one until he finds something. she likely wouldn't catch up at all either since she'd be carrying something to slow her down. there's just too many things going against her to win the majority.

and no, these characters are normal humans. so unless they have feats that put them above what normal humans actually are, we should logically assume they operate like normal humans which puts Sayori way below carter physically to the point she practically isn't a threat at all without a weapon.
 
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no, kicking someone in the balls will not immediately subdue them when they are pumped by adrenaline. people can literally get shot in non-vital areas with firearms and still continue to fight if their adrenaline is pumping enough. and said kick is coming from someone far weaker than Carter. it's not changing anything. she would have to avoid getting in melee range of him to get a good weapon. and a bunt weapon like a fire extinguisher isnt likely to give her the win since its not even a real weapon. you'd have to hold it on both sides and be able to only strike in essentially one effective way. it'd be easy to avoid and hit the person. and if she somehow escaped Carter long enough to get something like an axe, Carter could easily just run away once he sees she has one until he finds something. she likely wouldn't catch up at all either since she'd be carrying something to slow her down. there's just too many things going against her to win the majority.

and no, these characters are normal humans. so unless they have feats that put them above what normal humans actually are, we should logically assume they operate like normal humans which puts Sayori way below carter physically to the point she practically isn't a threat at all without a weapon.
You are seriously wanking the capabilities of an average old man.
 
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no, kicking someone in the balls will not immediately subdue them when they are pumped by adrenaline.
Yes it does, I am someone from a caotic place, I know how it works, kicking in the balls works most, if not all times, and by ur logic of "she looks weak", why would carter have adrenaline by seeing her?
 
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Well I guess if she knows how to perfectly use a fire extinguisher, I just looked up sayori's height and its 5'2 while an average man's height is like 5'9. Also it literally says in Sayori's profile that shes somewhat clumsy and it says that randolph carter has pretty high intelligence
 
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Well I guess if she knows how to perfectly use a fire extinguisher, I just looked up sayori's height and its 5'2 while an average man's height is like 5'9. Also it literally says in Sayori's profile that shes somewhat clumsy and it says that randolph carter has pretty high intelligence
I dont know how his inteligence will works, since, its not to fights
 
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You are seriously wanking the capabilities of an average old man.
you are seriously wanking the capabilities of an 18 year old girl. real humans arent like anime and fiction with stronk waman. the real world is much different. and these characters have no special physical attributes to my knowledge that would put them beyond normal human standards.

@Bernkastelll let's not play internet tough guy please. i've been in real fights as well and have been kicked in the balls. but i'm not going to use my experience as an argument because i have no proof and its just being the cringe internet tough guy. lets not go there. and 18 isnt changing anything really.

and he'd have adrenaline because this is a fight.
 
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you are seriously wanking the capabilities of a 16 year old girl.
We are not? And she is 18, she has weapons, she has knowledge of the place, and all that carter has is his old body
@Bernkastelll let's not play internet tough guy please. i've been in real fights as well and have been kicked in the balls. but i'm not going to use my experience as an argument because i have no proof and its just being the cringe internet tough guy. lets not go there.
Tough guy? Wtf
 
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@Bernkastelll let's not play internet tough guy please. i've been in real fights as well and have been kicked in the balls. but i'm not going to use my experience as an argument because i have no proof and its just being the cringe internet tough guy. lets not go there.
Don't be a dick. Bern is a girl, so you pretty much calling woman weak straight to her face may have been offensive.
 
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Don't be a dick. Bern is a girl, so you pretty much calling woman weak straight to her face may have been offensive.
a fact is a fact. they are physically weaker. i care about facts not feelings. science is science. its not meant to offend anyone. its just the truth. the only offensive part was directed towards you since you were acting smug to me for no reason.
 
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a fact is a fact. they are physically weaker. i care about facts not feelings. science is science. its not meant to offend anyone. its just the truth.
We all know women are physically weaker, no need to be an asshole about it.
 
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a fact is a fact. they are physically weaker. i care about facts not feelings. science is science. its not meant to offend anyone. its just the truth.
You're literally applying something that is not always relevant, since, he is old, she is somewhat "baseline adult", she has weapons and knowledge of the place, you're just overwanking gender
 
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You're literally applying something that is not always relevant, since, he is old, she is somewhat "baseline adult", she has weapons and knowledge of the place, you're just overwanking gender
'Overwanking gender.' Wow, never thought I'd hear that.
 
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You're literally applying something that is not always relevant, since, he is old, she is somewhat "baseline adult", she has weapons and knowledge of the place, you're just overwanking gender
you're acting like 50 years old is an 80 year old cripple. you're still physically fine at 50 overall, even if you are out of your prime. Carter seems to be in shape mostly too based off his appearance. i'm not wanking a gender. you're just being bias. most things in a school would not be effective weapons. she would also have to escape Carter in the first place to get one, get an effective one, get one before him, chase him down if he doesn't have one already while carrying something that slows her down and make sure he doesn't get something, and the most deadly things like knives from the cafeteria or a fire axe would be decently common knowledge as to where they are. she isn't winning the majority.
 
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you're acting like 50 years old is an 80 year old cripple. you're still physically fine at 50 overall, even if you are out of your prime. Carter seems to be in shape mostly too. i'm not wanking a gender. you're just being bias. most things in a school would not be effective weapons. she would also have to escape Carter in the first place to get one, get an effective one, get one before him, chase him down if he doesn't have one already while carrying something that slows her down and make sure he doesn't get something, and the most deadly things like knives from the cafeteria or a fire axe would be decently common knowledge as to where they are. she isn't winning the majority.
How would most of the things in the school be ineffective weapons? Sayori knows the layout of the school best, how will Carter stop her from arming herself?
 

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you're acting like 50 years old is an 80 year old cripple. you're still physically fine at 50 overall, even if you are out of your prime. Carter seems to be in shape mostly too based off his appearance. i'm not wanking a gender. you're just being bias. most things in a school would not be effective weapons. she would also have to escape Carter in the first place to get one, get an effective one, get one before him, chase him down if he doesn't have one already while carrying something that slows her down and make sure he doesn't get something, and the most deadly things like knives from the cafeteria or a fire axe would be decently common knowledge as to where they are. she isn't winning the majority.
She is has better stamina and average female are about 66% of an average male's strength Carter is weaker than an average male
 
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you're acting like 50 years old is an 80 year old cripple. you're still physically fine at 50 overall, even if you are out of your prime. Carter seems to be in shape mostly too based off his appearance. i'm not wanking a gender. you're just being bias. most things in a school would not be effective weapons. she would also have to escape Carter in the first place to get one, get an effective one, get one before him, chase him down if he doesn't have one already while carrying something that slows her down and make sure he doesn't get something, and the most deadly things like knives from the cafeteria or a fire axe would be decently common knowledge as to where they are. she isn't winning the majority.
Sayori is in her peak, since, she is like, adult, but still young, she must have stamina advantages as well, and her school has things like Knives due Yuri, and I am not being biased, I was likely in carter side before sayori got weapons and the fight placing in her school
Sayori FRA i guess

But in trade, we need Yuri profile
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I'm gonna vote for Randolph, I just don't see how he loses if we are going off average american male height and weight. He also has intelligence advantage
 
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i said both are bloodlusted.

but i agree with rez azontar, and berns points.

the fact she knows the layout and she can use the wide variety of school weapons plus the balls things give her the win.
 
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She is has better stamina and average female are about 66% of an average male's strength Carter is weaker than an average male

is it fine if both are bloodlusted.

does sayori still win because of the reasons you and the others gave.
 
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yeah but given that hes pretty smart I would think he would know how to disarm someone like Sayori, and like I said in Sayori's intelligence section it says she's kind of clumsy
Depend of how his inteligence works, if it is only due math stuff, no reason to assume, inteligence is too versatile.
 
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How would most of the things in the school be ineffective weapons? Sayori knows the layout of the school best, how will Carter stop her from arming herself?
i explained how something like a fire extinguisher is very limiting and how someone would be able to deal with that. you have to wield it in the most inefficient way just to strike with it, allowing someone to easily dodge it, block it up high before it is fully swung, or even grab it. its a blunt weapon after all. those arent huge game changers. the only things that would be a big deal is knives from the cafeteria and a fire axe. but she'd have to escape Carter in the first place, and then hope he doesnt also get something to defend himself with. and shed be hard pressed to chase him if shes armed with an axe. perhaps a knife, but she has too many obstacles to overcome to win the majority. i dont think the fight would carry on or result in running through every single floor of the school building before its over to where stamina becomes an issue for either, especially when they are pumped by adrenaline, which boost stamina.

and females have 37 TO 68% of of an average male's strength. it varies. someone as small and as young as her is clearly not going to be 68%. and even that is a significant gap.

@Bernkastelll Sayori is in her peak, since, she is like, adult, but still young, she must have stamina advantages as well, and her school has things like Knives due Yuri, and I am not being biased, I was likely in carter side before sayori got weapons and the fight placing in her school
if you think Sayori wins via map knowledge cool. thats the only realistic argument and thats fine. i disagree since she has too many issues to overcome, but your viewpoint in that regard is fine and understandable. but this "overwanking genders" and the physical gap between them being small is blatantly wrong if they are normal humans.
 
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yeah but given that hes pretty smart I would think he would know how to disarm someone like Sayori, and like I said in Sayori's intelligence section it says she's kind of clumsy
Carter is smart in terms of sorcery, not in terms of combat.
 
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i explained how something like a fire extinguisher is very limiting and how someone would be able to deal with that. you have to wield it in the most inefficient way just to strike with it, allowing someone to easily dodge it, block it up high before it is fully swung, or even grab it. its a blunt weapon after all. those arent huge game changers. the only things that would be a big deal is knives from the cafeteria and a fire axe. but she'd have to escape Carter in the first place, and then hope he doesnt also get something to defend himself with. and shed be hard pressed to chase him if shes armed with an axe. perhaps a knife, but she has too many obstacles to overcome to win the majority. i dont think the fight would carry on or result in running through every single floor of the school building before its over to where stamina becomes an issue for either, especially when they are pumped by adrenaline, which boost stamina.

and females have 37 TO 68% of of an average male's strength. it varies. someone as small and as young as her is clearly not going to be 68%. and even that is a significant gap.
A fire-extinguisher could be used to immobilize Carter via Sayori using the foam to blind him, if Sayori gets a knife or axe while bloodlusted she's going to turn Carter into sashimi. Sayori has knowledge of the school therefore she knows the layout, which will allow her to exploit the weapons and the layout. Carter has no knowledge and no weapons.
 
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Can Carter actually use his knowledge of magic in combat between normal humans?
I guess i'm kind of assuming it would help so idk if its applicable, but i also seriously doubt she would use the fire extinguisher that way tbh I think she would go for the axe and I still believe that Randolph would win but maybe im just overestimating a 56 year old man
 
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A fire-extinguisher could be used to immobilize Carter via Sayori using the foam to blind him, if Sayori gets a knife or axe while bloodlusted she's going to turn Carter into sashimi. Sayori has knowledge of the school therefore she knows the layout, which will allow her to exploit the weapons and the layout. Carter has no knowledge and no weapons.
you could cover your eyes. of course you still wouldnt be able to see until you're out of that small area, but all hed have to do is retreat out of the smokey area before she strikes, consider the range of that thing is essentially point blank in terms of striking distance and would be slow to swing. he could also just tackle her if she actually stops running and tries to face him before she can even do anything. her getting a knife or an axe is the only huge problem. but again, the axe would slow her down when chasing Carter until he finds something to at least defend with. a knife wouldnt have that problem though, so thats her biggest wincon. but I think there is too many scenarios where shed die before that for her to win the majority out of 10 in my opinion.
 
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