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The Concept Types being mentioned is not because of Conceptual Manipulation and it affecting him, but Hoopa's NPI and ability to affect Abstract Kratos, which Hoopa can do with it's ability to affect Type 1 (Concepts and Abstracts). You do need feats to affect Type 2 Concepts, but Hoopa's hax can affect the Type 1 Concepts that are the Creation Trio's true form, so whatever.

Reaper, stop. You clearly don't know Kratos well. It's Hope he embodies, so just respond to statements about Pokémon if you don't know GoW well.
 
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i said distance in the replies but the op seems unchanged.





Sorry guys it's just i need someone to help me see if the matches are okay because of four things i'm worried about.

1. if the op was fine but something i said in the replies related to the op was not (i still didn't change the op though but still)

2. Op was not okay but i changed something about it in the replies to make it fair but forgot to change op.

3. op was not fair or anything but no one noticed it (it could happen)

4. i changed the op to make it fair but no one noticed. Probably because i did it late or something. and another thing, i might have changed it last second but that's unlikely.


yeah these four things are making me having to look at my threads again to see if there's anything wrong with them. and also the incap thing about win via death or incap and this is also making me think twice.

if one can't kill the other, win via incap is optional and vice versa (if the other guy can kill but can't incap) (rules about that as well?)

(sorry if i brought too much on this thread. i just wanted to make sure my matches are allowed and can be kept on my profiles. and this is the thread for these kinds of things which is why i brought them up here)

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the reason being i'm not sure if i removed spinjutzu or not.

spinjutzu is part of lloyd and if i removed that the match can't be added. so remove it and i will later decide for a rematch.


2.
also is this one a stomp

cause we all ended up voting for it but we didn't let them explain much if it was a stomp or not.

3.
and this one.

they have similar speed.

but i allowed star to keep her massively ftl+ attack speed.


check if this one deserves to be removed or not.

or maybe i changed it in the replies but forgot to add it in the op.


i'm still not sure so could someone help.


4.
was this one fine?

(hank can resurrect himself but it takes time regardless. "Hank's immortality is not reliable, as sometimes the Higher Powers don't resurrect him at all, and takes time, regardless")




also this one



because dragonmaster said this


"btw, Considering this is Jou AND Gomamon, it should be noted that Gomamon is prevented from evolution. Otherwise this would be quite unfair. Also, Jou is capable of buffing Gomamon's power if need be, so take that into consideration.

Honestly, once revisions are accepted, I will be making a Vikemon profile which will have a Gomamon with a bit more to work with than Jou's."




these i'm not sure if remove or not.
 
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Due to this CRT being accepted

Goku vs Zero needs to be removed as Zero’s Low 2-C AP got downgraded so his only wincon (Being able to one shot Goku in his strongest form) is no longer a thing.
 
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I'd like to remove Aizen vs Eternatus because it heavily misunderstood Eternatus' power null. It nulls just active actions as even said in the thread about the creation of its profile, it doesn't stop passive abilities from working, that's another power that needs to be activated. Ergo, Aizen just passives Eternatus to death.
 
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There’s nothing wrong with this one

but saman told me to place it here because of this

“If the result wouldn't change, then I think it could stay, though it's better if you ask about that in the vs matches removal.

Also, remember to explain why Rem's 8-B can't be restricted.”


I’m just curious guys. Do you have to say 8-B or is saying 8-C for rem okay because that’s the only key for rem and 8-B isn’t because it’s a weapon or something (still if it’s a standard weapon you must not restrict), it’s because it’s a effect of her magic.

so should have I said 8-C or 8-B?
 
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the reason being i'm not sure if i removed spinjutzu or not.

spinjutzu is part of lloyd and if i removed that the match can't be added. so remove it and i will later decide for a rematch.


2.
also is this one a stomp

cause we all ended up voting for it but we didn't let them explain much if it was a stomp or not.

3.
and this one.

they have similar speed.

but i allowed star to keep her massively ftl+ attack speed.


check if this one deserves to be removed or not.

or maybe i changed it in the replies but forgot to add it in the op.


i'm still not sure so could someone help.


4.
was this one fine?

(hank can resurrect himself but it takes time regardless. "Hank's immortality is not reliable, as sometimes the Higher Powers don't resurrect him at all, and takes time, regardless")




also this one



because dragonmaster said this


"btw, Considering this is Jou AND Gomamon, it should be noted that Gomamon is prevented from evolution. Otherwise this would be quite unfair. Also, Jou is capable of buffing Gomamon's power if need be, so take that into consideration.

Honestly, once revisions are accepted, I will be making a Vikemon profile which will have a Gomamon with a bit more to work with than Jou's."




these i'm not sure if remove or not.

There’s nothing wrong with this one

but saman told me to place it here because of this

“If the result wouldn't change, then I think it could stay, though it's better if you ask about that in the vs matches removal.

Also, remember to explain why Rem's 8-B can't be restricted.”


I’m just curious guys. Do you have to say 8-B or is saying 8-C for rem okay because that’s the only key for rem and 8-B isn’t because it’s a weapon or something (still if it’s a standard weapon you must not restrict), it’s because it’s a effect of her magic.

so should have I said 8-C or 8-B?

oh wait i said 8-C for both but i didn't restrict anything. so she still could use 8-B

okay but the others i'm still not sure or they i'm sure. regardless those need to be removed.
 
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If I have an issue with most of a character's fights due to (what I perceive to be) issues with how their standard tactics were argued, should I just write a long post about that here, or does that deserve its own thread?
 
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If I have an issue with most of a character's fights due to (what I perceive to be) issues with how their standard tactics were argued, should I just write a long post about that here, or does that deserve its own thread?
Hmm... removing the match for how one's standard tactics are argued should be covered here but dispelling said character's misconceptions would be best handled on its own thread.

In other words: "yes"
 
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the reason being i'm not sure if i removed spinjutzu or not.

spinjutzu is part of lloyd and if i removed that the match can't be added. so remove it and i will later decide for a rematch.


2.
also is this one a stomp

cause we all ended up voting for it but we didn't let them explain much if it was a stomp or not.

3.
and this one.

they have similar speed.

but i allowed star to keep her massively ftl+ attack speed.


check if this one deserves to be removed or not.

or maybe i changed it in the replies but forgot to add it in the op.


i'm still not sure so could someone help.


4.
was this one fine?

(hank can resurrect himself but it takes time regardless. "Hank's immortality is not reliable, as sometimes the Higher Powers don't resurrect him at all, and takes time, regardless")




also this one



because dragonmaster said this


"btw, Considering this is Jou AND Gomamon, it should be noted that Gomamon is prevented from evolution. Otherwise this would be quite unfair. Also, Jou is capable of buffing Gomamon's power if need be, so take that into consideration.

Honestly, once revisions are accepted, I will be making a Vikemon profile which will have a Gomamon with a bit more to work with than Jou's."




these i'm not sure if remove or not.

remove these ones please
 
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If I have an issue with most of a character's fights due to (what I perceive to be) issues with how their standard tactics were argued, should I just write a long post about that here, or does that deserve its own thread?
nvm, looks like there's only one bad fight...

Misogi Kumagawa's fight against Amane Shinomiya (found here) should be removed imo; it was argued that Kumagawa would win by granting himself infinite speed and then erasing or using Book Maker on Amane, with most of the thread being devoted to discussing whether Amane's probability/fate hax would work on an infinite speed opponent.

I went into more detail here but in short Kumagawa has never used infinite-speed Book Maker in a fight (let alone starting with it), he's only started at best 2/11 fights with Book Maker (in one of those cases not even directly impaling the opponent with it), and he's never used All Fiction to EE or incap an opponent, especially not at the start of a fight. His most common starts are normal attacks/screws (dodgable 8-B attacks) and taking hits/talking/fucking around. He doesn't just cram infinite-speed hax on the first thought.

His other fights seem fine, they keep more in line with this interpretation and have him pulling out a win after he dies a few times.
 
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Esdeath's wincon is still same time stop+any attack. Accelerator being 5-B is kinda irrelevant since he could have one shotted even when this match was actually done
I'm aware of it but it doesn't change the fact she only has only has one win-con (which is also partly relies on CIS on the part of her opponent "jobbing"). The MU just doesn't work imo.
 

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I'm aware of it but it doesn't change the fact she only has only has one win-con (which is also partly relies on CIS on the part of her opponent "jobbing"). The MU just doesn't work imo.
Her wincon isn't really reliant on pre headshot Accel being a sadist they are more so reliant on how quickly she uses her time stop
 
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the reason being i'm not sure if i removed spinjutzu or not.

spinjutzu is part of lloyd and if i removed that the match can't be added. so remove it and i will later decide for a rematch.


2.
also is this one a stomp

cause we all ended up voting for it but we didn't let them explain much if it was a stomp or not.

3.
and this one.

they have similar speed.

but i allowed star to keep her massively ftl+ attack speed.


check if this one deserves to be removed or not.

or maybe i changed it in the replies but forgot to add it in the op.


i'm still not sure so could someone help.


4.
was this one fine?

(hank can resurrect himself but it takes time regardless. "Hank's immortality is not reliable, as sometimes the Higher Powers don't resurrect him at all, and takes time, regardless")




also this one



because dragonmaster said this


"btw, Considering this is Jou AND Gomamon, it should be noted that Gomamon is prevented from evolution. Otherwise this would be quite unfair. Also, Jou is capable of buffing Gomamon's power if need be, so take that into consideration.

Honestly, once revisions are accepted, I will be making a Vikemon profile which will have a Gomamon with a bit more to work with than Jou's."




these i'm not sure if remove or not.




i'm not sure about this one. can we get more cyanide and happiness members here.

because a cyanide and happiness member saw this match and said okay i guess. (but that's not 100% correct on if this is a fair match or not)

so might as well remove it.
 
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Wait almost 2-C? Damn Simon iirc scales a good deal above baseline but no where near as much as that. Last I checked Simon was like

Simon/Trevor >> Dracula > Hector >> Leon Belmont >> Death >> Time Reaper >>/Baseline

So yeah I'm pretty sure TE AP stomps there, if it had a soul Simon could have yeeted it in one hit but he's got no wincon there from the sounds of it. I guess maybe there's someone else in Castlevania that can fight TE idk
 
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This fight should be removed as it's a FRA train

As GG has higher starting ap but his RPL should let him grow from being stomped by his foe to bring undamaged by then in a matter of seconds and his RE let's him get new powers in the middle of a fight by copying his foes powers (his suit becoming gold and magic by fighting his magic with gold wielding father, getting lightning powers by fighting Oxob).

Also tatsumi is not as skilled as GG. Like everyone in the verse who is a named character is crazy skilled, not only from their own feats but when stuff is taken into consideration like the existence of an whole country of where you need to be a master swordsman or you're worthless to them and being exiled being considered fodder.

Gildedguy has wins over Jade, one of the most skilled foes in the whole verse and not who has beatten some of the most skilled people in the whole verse and Oxob, who is super skilled at H2H combat (with fight was done by him matching his H2H combat)

So yeah this match should be removed for being a FRA train that didn't take into account the things GG can do. Sorry for the long post but I need to explain why this should be removed in detail
 
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the reason being i'm not sure if i removed spinjutzu or not.

spinjutzu is part of lloyd and if i removed that the match can't be added. so remove it and i will later decide for a rematch.


2.
also is this one a stomp

cause we all ended up voting for it but we didn't let them explain much if it was a stomp or not.

3.
and this one.

they have similar speed.

but i allowed star to keep her massively ftl+ attack speed.


check if this one deserves to be removed or not.

or maybe i changed it in the replies but forgot to add it in the op.


i'm still not sure so could someone help.


4.
was this one fine?

(hank can resurrect himself but it takes time regardless. "Hank's immortality is not reliable, as sometimes the Higher Powers don't resurrect him at all, and takes time, regardless")




also this one



because dragonmaster said this


"btw, Considering this is Jou AND Gomamon, it should be noted that Gomamon is prevented from evolution. Otherwise this would be quite unfair. Also, Jou is capable of buffing Gomamon's power if need be, so take that into consideration.

Honestly, once revisions are accepted, I will be making a Vikemon profile which will have a Gomamon with a bit more to work with than Jou's."




these i'm not sure if remove or not.

these matches in these two replies need to be removed.


https://vsbattles.com/threads/a-twin-peaks-battle-dale-cooper-vs-the-star-spangled-bastard-1-vote-left.121338/

i'm not sure about this one. can we get more cyanide and happiness members here.

because a cyanide and happiness member saw this match and said okay i guess. (but that's not 100% correct on if this is a fair match or not)

so might as well remove it.









and this one needs to be removed until the creator of the star spangled bastard's profile says it's accurate/fair/whatever.
 
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This fight should be removed as it's a FRA train

As GG has higher starting ap but his RPL should let him grow from being stomped by his foe to bring undamaged by then in a matter of seconds and his RE let's him get new powers in the middle of a fight by copying his foes powers (his suit becoming gold and magic by fighting his magic with gold wielding father, getting lightning powers by fighting Oxob).

Also tatsumi is not as skilled as GG. Like everyone in the verse who is a named character is crazy skilled, not only from their own feats but when stuff is taken into consideration like the existence of an whole country of where you need to be a master swordsman or you're worthless to them and being exiled being considered fodder.

Gildedguy has wins over Jade, one of the most skilled foes in the whole verse and not who has beatten some of the most skilled people in the whole verse and Oxob, who is super skilled at H2H combat (with fight was done by him matching his H2H combat)

So yeah this match should be removed for being a FRA train that didn't take into account the things GG can do. Sorry for the long post but I need to explain why this should be removed in detail
Tatsumi: But muh adaptation
 

Note: Current Blackbeard is still featless, so it is unknown how powerful he exactly is, he only has powerscaling from Old Whitebeard to determine how powerful he is for now until he get's more feats.


Notable Victories:

King K. Rool (Donkey Kong) King K. Rool's profile (Speed was equalized, Post-Timeskip Blackbeard was used, King K. Rool had the Crystal Banana and the battle took place in DK Jungle)

^Why we have a Blackbeard victory using his featless key? People are claiming in another thread that Post time skip Blackbeard should not be used right now
 
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the reason being i'm not sure if i removed spinjutzu or not.

spinjutzu is part of lloyd and if i removed that the match can't be added. so remove it and i will later decide for a rematch.


2.
also is this one a stomp

cause we all ended up voting for it but we didn't let them explain much if it was a stomp or not.

3.
and this one.

they have similar speed.

but i allowed star to keep her massively ftl+ attack speed.


check if this one deserves to be removed or not.

or maybe i changed it in the replies but forgot to add it in the op.


i'm still not sure so could someone help.


4.
was this one fine?

(hank can resurrect himself but it takes time regardless. "Hank's immortality is not reliable, as sometimes the Higher Powers don't resurrect him at all, and takes time, regardless")




also this one



because dragonmaster said this


"btw, Considering this is Jou AND Gomamon, it should be noted that Gomamon is prevented from evolution. Otherwise this would be quite unfair. Also, Jou is capable of buffing Gomamon's power if need be, so take that into consideration.

Honestly, once revisions are accepted, I will be making a Vikemon profile which will have a Gomamon with a bit more to work with than Jou's."




these i'm not sure if remove or not.


https://vsbattles.com/threads/a-twin-peaks-battle-dale-cooper-vs-the-star-spangled-bastard-1-vote-left.121338/

i'm not sure about this one. can we get more cyanide and happiness members here.

because a cyanide and happiness member saw this match and said okay i guess. (but that's not 100% correct on if this is a fair match or not)

so might as well remove it.









and this one needs to be removed until the creator of the star spangled bastard's profile says it's accurate/fair/whatever.

And this one still needs to be removed based on what I said
 
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https://vsbattles.com/threads/a-twin-peaks-battle-dale-cooper-vs-the-star-spangled-bastard-1-vote-left.121338/

i'm not sure about this one. can we get more cyanide and happiness members here.

because a cyanide and happiness member saw this match and said okay i guess. (but that's not 100% correct on if this is a fair match or not)

so might as well remove it.









and this one needs to be removed until the creator of the star spangled bastard's profile says it's accurate/fair/whatever.

And this one still needs to be removed based on what I said


1.
the reason being i'm not sure if i removed spinjutzu or not.

spinjutzu is part of lloyd and if i removed that the match can't be added. so remove it and i will later decide for a rematch.


2.
also is this one a stomp

cause we all ended up voting for it but we didn't let them explain much if it was a stomp or not.

3.
and this one.

they have similar speed.

but i allowed star to keep her massively ftl+ attack speed.


check if this one deserves to be removed or not.

or maybe i changed it in the replies but forgot to add it in the op.


i'm still not sure so could someone help.


4.
was this one fine?

(hank can resurrect himself but it takes time regardless. "Hank's immortality is not reliable, as sometimes the Higher Powers don't resurrect him at all, and takes time, regardless")




also this one



because dragonmaster said this


"btw, Considering this is Jou AND Gomamon, it should be noted that Gomamon is prevented from evolution. Otherwise this would be quite unfair. Also, Jou is capable of buffing Gomamon's power if need be, so take that into consideration.

Honestly, once revisions are accepted, I will be making a Vikemon profile which will have a Gomamon with a bit more to work with than Jou's."




these i'm not sure if remove or not.





these still need to be removed
 
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