Urban Warfare in the City of Eternal Nights Assassination 2 (Tarkus vs Pluto)

[First_Witch]

"Three day have passed since a mysterious group of 16 individuals entered the forsaken Metropolis of decadence.
The quiet night of the City Square is where our fateful encounter happens.
A clash of Capos and Executives is upon us. Soon,
Death will occur upon these streets."



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Pluto:
Tarkus: 1

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Pluto should have the AP advantage (Pluto performed a 0.77 Tons feat simply by flexing, so he should be >>> the value) and that's before he further amplifies his stats with FLEX and EXPAND FURTHER (Increasing his Attack and Defense but slightly lowering his speed)
Pluto can also become HAPPY increasing his speed by 20%

As for the LS, Pluto crushes Tarkus, given that it is Class M vs Class K (So Pluto could put him in a submission hold, which is in-character)

Also since speed is equalized, Pluto is able to move normally despite his large size. Pluto can punch and dodge just like any other person, so he SEVERELY outranges Tarkus in physical combat

 

[Chariot190]

Which key are we using for Pluto? The link links to his base key and that's the image used in the OP so...?

 

[First_Witch]

Its base this round

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

While inferior to his Expanded Form, Base Pluto should still be around 0.77 Tons (Since he could knock out a Post-Expanded Pluto Fight Kel's tooth)
So they should be at least comparable until Pluto amplifies his stats

Tarkus effortlessly overpowers Pluto in the LS department tho (Class 25 vs Class K with a finger)

Pluto's advantages are: Flight, Stat Amps and his possible Low-Mid Regen

 

[SamanPatou]

How does Pluto fight and how does he empliy his flight?

Because Tarkus' big ass sword could be a serious problem.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

How does Pluto fight and how does he empliy his flight?

Pluto's a physical brawler and mostly starts with rapid-punches and headbutts
He can also make himself HAPPY, increasing his critical hit chance and speed by 20% (And will only take 80% damage from Angry foes)
If backed into a corner, Pluto will use EXPAND; making himself bigger, increasing his Attack and Defense but slightly lowering his speed
Pluto only uses his flight to retreat tho

 

[SamanPatou]

Unless Pluto has the skill to fight a swordsman with his bare fists, I think he's gonna lose more time than not.

Becoming stronger and faster while reducing damage from an opponent who will likely become angry at some point are good advantages, but I'm not sure if they are enough. (and I'm not sure if percentage can be considered an actual thing in Omori, idk how we handle the verse).
He's still using his arms to counter a large sword, and Tarkus can also regenerate and ignore pain. Increasing in size would only make him a bigger target, honestly.

For now, I vote Tarkus.

 

[Popted2]

Tarkus FRA

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Is Pluto restricted to his Base Form or can he become Expanded? (Since his Expanded Form is just the maximum size he can get through EXPANDing)

 

[SamanPatou]

The expanded form refers to his second key?
Because jumping from key to key isn't allowed by vs matches rules in general.
Pluto might be one of those outdated profiles that separate keys by transformations, instead of different points in time and such.

If you think base and expanded can fit into the same key, you can try to make a quick CRT to merge them.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

The expanded form refers to his second key?
Because jumping from key to key isn't allowed by vs matches rules in general.
Pluto might be one of those outdated profiles that separate keys by transformations, instead of different points in time and such.

If you think base and expanded can fit into the same key, you can try to make a quick CRT to merge them.

"At least 8-C, higher when Expanded" doesn't look as good tho

 

[Chariot190]

Tarkus' stuff is

Can't feel pain (JoJo zombies lack the ability to feel pain, unless caused by hamon or sunlight, in which it's ******* unbearable and feels like being burned alive but worse).

High stamina (As a human it was basically superhuman, as an undead it's far, far higher).

Has a large sword that eclipses 195cm, atop his own huge build (No canon height and it changes due to art discrepancies, but he's usually at smallest drawn close to 400cm) and while the size isn't major here due to his foe, the fact he has a sword does matter, less surface area means cutting damage, can be used to mitigate durability via slashing and piercing damage (pretty hefty range on his cuts as well, he could slice open a cliff 30m deep and 23m long with one strike, so he should be capable of actually inflicting noticeable damage to Pluto, who's 40m tall I think?)

LS is so great that he can lift about 500 tons with one finger, casually.

Has some regen (Can heal broken bones and deep stab wounds just fine, scales to these feats, downside is UV light or head attacks work fine and are lethal).

Is a zombie so he has that zombie shit going on (in that he can infect others, but he doesn't use this unless backed into a corner, he's still completely cognizant as opposed to RE zoms for example, he'd rather beat the shit out of you as he's malicious and will actively not use this in almost every situation).

0.71 tons for AP (probably a bit higher as he wasn't pissed yet but it's about this, maybe a tad higher via upscaling off Jonathan, Jack and the ship feat (Tarkus is strong enough to break his bones) but he's definitely below the + no matter how you slice it, he's hovering around that gap).

Also quite skilled, was a knight. And he's anything but dumb. Though he is brutish.

Weakness is sunlight (vaporizes when hit). And his head, as you'd expect from an undead.

Tarkus might be able to outlast via stamin and his own regen?
Yes, I know Pluto is stated to have regen but given it prefaces it with "yeah it's probably game mechanics", I'm inclined to believe it's game mechanics (tbh I don't really wanna argue on something that's just a possibility). Or if pushed into a corner, potentially infect Pluto with his fangs, though that was his last resort when faced with a baseline High 8-C who was ripping him apart and had instant kill hax on him so that's super not a lead, it's a (oh **** I am LITERALLY DYING tier move), plus it can be dodged or completely avoided and made useless via body control. Of course if Pluto can outlast till morning Tarkus is instant killed, or if Pluto can crush Tarkus' head or inflict decent brain damage he dies.

Though this has shown me that Tarkus profile is kinda lackluster as ****. Anyway, the question is if Pluto could cave in Tarkus' skull or outlast him before taking hefty enough damage via Tarkus' blade and own innate stamina and survivability, or LS I guess if this is Pluto base key as the tables turn and Tarkus can incap and pin him without issue.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Or if pushed into a corner, potentially infect Pluto with his fangs, though that was his last resort when faced with a baseline High 8-C who was ripping him apart and had instant kill hax on him so that's super not a lead, it's a (oh **** I am LITERALLY DYING tier move), plus it can be dodged or completely avoided and made useless via body control.

Would that work on Pluto? He's a (former) planet.

 

[Chariot190]

Don't know his physiology, depends how inorganic he is, he doesn't have inorganic physiology and he obviously has muscles, but that could be just something that was missed being added and him being a muscled rock could be a cartoon thing.

Does he have blood or anything? That should simplify this.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Omori called him a mysterious flexing rock

 

[SamanPatou]

"At least 8-C, higher when Expanded" doesn't look as good tho

That's the best way to index it, though, from what I've seen so far.

 

[Chariot190]

But does he have blood or something? Tarkus' infection is dependent on bloodstream transmission, if he has that then he probably could be infected, if not then probably not.
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[Adem_Warlock69]

But does he have blood or something?

Probably not

 

[Stillwinston]

Voting Tarkus FRA

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

That's the best way to index it, though, from what I've seen so far.

ehh sure

 

[SamanPatou]

In the meanwhile, how much time does Pluto take to become that big?

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

In the meanwhile, how much time does Pluto take to become that big?

Around 25 Seconds

 

[SamanPatou]

You said he does that only when put to the corner, right?
And can he act while he grows in size?

Because as of now I think the battle would go as previously described, but at some point Pluto would start growing, although it depends on the wounds he has taken at that point.

Tarkus might be surprised but also still act while Pluto grows big, exploiting the time he takes to increase in size to deal some lethal blow, given his slashes can cover around 30 meters on hit, as Chariot stated.

If Pluto manages to become super giant, he might use ap and LS to crush Tarkus to death, since iirc their AP is kind of comparable, tho Pluto would deal less damage while getting more due to surface area.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

You said he does that only when put to the corner, right?

Probaby yeah (First fight Pluto started Expanding as soon as he realized Omori and co were strong)

Tarkus might be surprised but also still act while Pluto grows big, exploiting the time he takes to increase in size to deal some lethal blow, given his slashes can cover around 30 meters on hit, as Chariot stated.

Pluto has his flight so he could easily get away and keep a distance away from him as he Expands
Pluto Expanding into his giant form also makes the floor around him explode as collateral damage

 

[Chariot190]

If Tarkus grabs him he could potentially limit his flight before and attack him or finish him off before he gets the chance, especially as with the sword, his attacks will be quite hefty in damage due to cutting.

Furthermore, what end is even being used for that floor feat? That's a chance that it's completely negligible and won't even be a nuisance depending on the end (I ask, because not even Armor knows which end we using, if it's high end it's useful and good but low end is whatever).

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

If Tarkus grabs him he could potentially limit his flight before and attack him or finish him off before he gets the chance, especially as with the sword, his attacks will be quite hefty in damage due to cutting.

Pluto can become a ball tho

 

[Chariot190]

Are you implying people can't grab balls?
t̵h̵a̵t̵'̵s̵ ̵k̵i̵n̵d̵a̵ ̵a̵n̵t̵i̵-̵l̵g̵b̵t̵ ̵b̵r̵o̵

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Ball Pluto is like 200cm tho
So Tarkus can't grab Pluto and his sword at the same time

 

[SamanPatou]

Pluto has his flight so he could easily get away and keep a distance away from him as he Expands

Didn't you say he only uses it to retreat?
Or would it be possible/in-character for him to fly away, become big and then come back?

 

[Chariot190]

Why could he not? Tarkus himself is like, 400cm at least (Sometimes he's drawn like triple Jonathan's height, but at the very least he's 390cm). His sword is at least 195cm and he's double it (Stated to make Jonathan's 195cm look tiny).
And he's 500tons, with zero effort, with one finger.
He can restrain Pluto just fine with one hand or arm, even as a ball, Tarkus' grip can still pin him down in his base state. It's not like Pluto gets lubed and becomes slippery or something, hell he even has indents and craters, his form is prime grabbing material.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Didn't you say he only uses it to retreat?
Or would it be possible/in-character for him to fly away, become big and then come back?

Yeah, Pluto has Expanded while he's levitating

He can restrain Pluto just fine with one hand or arm, even as a ball, Tarkus' grip can still pin him down in his base state. It's not like Pluto gets lubed and becomes slippery or something, hell he even has indents and craters, his form is prime grabbing material.

Does he start with that?

 

[Chariot190]

I'd assume sometimes? Kinda hard to say when he's only ever been in one fight, but he does indeed like grappling and one of his favorite past times was this weird tug of war neck thing and he'd definitely grab his foes if given a chance. It's something he can and will do openly if that's what you're asking, can't say it's the very first thing he'd do (he might punch, he might kick, he might sword swing, he might grab, he might bearhug, all things he actively likes to do).

 

[First_Witch]

Bump

 

[SamanPatou]

I'm still leaning more towards Tarkus, mostly because he basically has the upper hand for the entire fight until Pluto becomes big.
And even assuming he doesn't die first, and him flying high to increase whitout troubles isn't halted by Tarkus grabbing him down, I still think victory isn't assured for Pluto.
Tarkus can apparently expand the range of his attacks upon hit, which means he could affect Pluto in his entirety, who would have to rely on crushing Tarkus with higher AP and LS, either by stomping him or delivering unblockable blows.
But even then, Tarkus might be able to slash Pluto's body with his sword when clashing hits.

While it's definitely not a stomp, I think Tarkus has more chances to seize the victory.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

And even assuming he doesn't die first, and him flying high to increase whitout troubles isn't halted by Tarkus grabbing him down, I still think victory isn't assured for Pluto.
Tarkus can apparently expand the range of his attacks upon hit, which means he could affect Pluto in his entirety, who would have to rely on crushing Tarkus with higher AP and LS, either by stomping him or delivering unblockable blows.
But even then, Tarkus might be able to slash Pluto's body with his sword when clashing hits.

I'm pretty sure once Pluto fully Expands he wins.
Expanded Pluto's first move (That isn't grabbing the moon and throwing it at the enemy) is to put the opponent in a submission hold and once restrained the fight is over. Class K can't do anything to escape a ×80 Baseline Class M's grip
Expanded Pluto also doesn't need to make physical contact with Tarkus to harm him, since Pluto can summon meteor showers (which are in-game ×10 his speed) and usually fights by throwing nearby celestial bodies at the enemy

 

[Chariot190]

once he fully expands

That's the thing, would he tho?
Tarkus and him may have similar AP but sword be sword, his attacks will slice him and mitigate durability (they're basically even in AP, so imagine it like you getting punched by a dude equal to you vs you getting sliced or stabbed with a giant blade by someone equal to you, the latter is going to **** you up, badly, even if the former you could tank or walk off with just a bloody lip or something).
While it's true Pluto eclipses Tarkus in LS while expanded, the opposite is also true pre-expansion, Tarkus starts with the LS advantage first, and he can and will use it, if Tarkus pins or grabs Pluto, Pluto can't escape pre expansion and Tarkus could finish him off like that.
Meteors can be dodged just fine if it ever comes to that (tbh how do we treat that anyway? lot of speed equal threads happening lately? Tarkus is innately faster so I dont think they're allowed to be faster than him speed equal and instead get equalized all the same? Maybe? Unsure).

Tarkus still also has ludicrous stamina and undead physiology, he can retaliate back while torn in half or something worse case scenario.

He has to expand first, Tarkus might be able to take him out before he does so via the giant sword the size of Pluto himself (initially anyway).
Pluto's best bet would be to go into expansion right away, or maybe if he has any range attacks, just use those, given Tarkus can't do **** all about long range spam. Stalling till day is also an instant win but doubt Pluto would figure that out.

 

[XVII]

ok, so while pluto, if expanded, will definitely win, it's not instant, so that's a bummer
even then, i can't see tarkus killing someone with higher dura than him (even with the big-ass sword) in under 25 seconds

tho, pluto would be pretty wounded, and he would have a hard time killing tarkus.

for that, my vote goes to tarkus

 

[XVII]

ok, so while pluto, if expanded, will definitely win, it's not instant, so that's a bummer
even then, i can't see tarkus killing someone with higher dura than him (even with the big-ass sword) in under 25 seconds

tho, pluto would be pretty wounded, and he would have a hard time killing tarkus.

for that, my vote goes to tarkus

but if better arguments for pluto are shown, i will change my vote

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Reading every thing, I will give my vote for tarkus

 

[Chariot190]

even then, i can't see tarkus killing someone with higher dura than him (even with the big-ass sword) in under 25 seconds

Well that's assuming he goes into expanded immediately, 25 seconds is the time it takes to transform right? If he doesn't do that right away, Tarkus doesn't need to do that in under 25 seconds, he only needs to do it 25 seconds + whatever amount of time he stays in base as.

How big is his base form anyway? He doesn't look much larger than a few kids?

 

[Popted2]

1 more vote

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Tarkus and him may have similar AP but sword be sword, his attacks will slice him and mitigate durability (they're basically even in AP, so imagine it like you getting punched by a dude equal to you vs you getting sliced or stabbed with a giant blade by someone equal to you, the latter is going to **** you up, badly, even if the former you could tank or walk off with just a bloody lip or something).

Pluto has taken multiple hits from Omori and Hero (Both have bladed weapons and are around 0.77 physically) while Tarkus used his Sword to perform his 0.71 Tons feat.
So I doubt he'll slice Pluto like he's butter

While it's true Pluto eclipses Tarkus in LS while expanded, the opposite is also true pre-expansion, Tarkus starts with the LS advantage first, and he can and will use it, if Tarkus pins or grabs Pluto, Pluto can't escape pre expansion and Tarkus could finish him off like that.

Yes he has higher lifting strength, but unless he Anchors Pluto in something he can’t lift, then Pluto can just fly away. Tarkus himself doesn’t weight anywhere near as much as his own lifting strength so grappling Pluto won’t work due to flight

Meteors can be dodged just fine if it ever comes to that (tbh how do we treat that anyway? lot of speed equal threads happening lately? Tarkus is innately faster so I dont think they're allowed to be faster than him speed equal and instead get equalized all the same? Maybe? Unsure).

The relation of speed between the most proficient form of combat and the speed of an specific attack remains intact. Any attack or ability that fighter has that is normally faster than their base combat speed is still proportionally faster. (I think)
The meteors also have higher accuracy than all of his attacks (Probably to emphasize that the number of meteor are too much to evade)

Pluto's best bet would be to go into expansion right away

He has done that in his second and third fights, but that was mostly because he already knew how strong Omori and co were

 

[Chariot190]

Pluto has taken multiple hits from Omori and Hero (Both have bladed weapons and are around 0.77 physically)

Lad, ya kinda ignored the fact the sword is the size of a giant man (stated to make Jonathan's 195cm look tiny), and not a tiny sword used by tweens that's probably not even 1/5th the length, of course they'd inflict less damage if the cuts and stabs they inflict are far smaller by virtue of being not even half the size. Tarkus' blade has a sharp edge but is extremely long, it's like Sephiroth type shit, minus being extremely thin.

while Tarkus used his Sword to perform his 0.71 Tons feat. So I doubt he'll slice Pluto like he's butter

Yeah sure, he did, but you're ignoring the fact the feat was 30m long cut done via a slice. His sword's surface area can create a rift that large and that can be calculated at that caliber (Obviously I know, given the calc that's being used is mine). If Tarkus' sword has that much range and slicing power alone, it's gonna be mitigating Pluto's durability due to it's long yet thin surface area, Pluto's durability is indeed slightly higher than Tarkus AP, but Tarkus AP is focused. Nobody said it'd cut through him like butter, that's a strawman, of course Tarkus can't bisect him or anything, but it WOULD cut him and inflict deep incisions. In which case, what's Pluto's stamina actually? Can he fight with massive injury like stab wounds, deep cuts and more?

Yes he has higher lifting strength, but unless he Anchors Pluto in something he can’t lift, then Pluto can just fly away. Tarkus himself doesn’t weight anywhere near as much as his own lifting strength so grappling Pluto won’t work due to flight

We already went through this though right? He doesn't need to anchor him, he just needs to grab him, pull him in, then punch him or run him through with the blade or any other means. Tarkus can restrain him in his grip alone in his base, he's a sphere but he isn't smooth and is perfectly capable of being held onto, if you're actually arguing Pluto says lol and flies away anyway despite the fact that doesn't quite work like that when you're being grappled, Tarkus could easily just grab hold of the ground with the other hand to anchor himself as you said would be needed. Tarkus has a scabbard fyi so the sword isn't an issue., it isn't like he can't just sheathe it or place it down for a moment (Or skip that and plant his feet firm into the concrete kinda like how Dio walks up walls). Tbh he might not even want to anchor him, just grab hold of him while he's flying away and beat on him with the sword while he's transforming would also be just as good. Not like a fall is gonna do Tarkus in.

The relation of speed between the most proficient form of combat and the speed of an specific attack remains intact. Any attack or ability that fighter has that is normally faster than their base combat speed is still proportionally faster. (I think) The meteors also have higher accuracy than all of his attacks (Probably to emphasize that the number of meteor are too much to evade)

Yeah about that, speed CRT going on right now because of that very issue, probably brought on by the Stand loophole actually in that Stands being millions of times faster than the host was causing problems in speed equal matches as the Stands are proportionally like a million times faster so all the matches ended in a blitz. Either way, might have to wait to see how that CRT plays out before 10x speed meteorites as an argument (Though would that be allowed anyway? Tarkus is innately like 40x faster than Pluto, I'm not sure if moves that would end up blitzing Tarkus that are normally slower is allowed?).

He has done that in his second and third fights, but that was mostly because he already knew how strong Omori and co were

Well Pluto is obviously going in blind here, Tarkus does look quite strong himself though so maybe that'd tip him off but it still wouldn't be his first action.

Does Pluto have meteorites in his base key? Leading with those might **** Tarkus over, he has zero counter to range attacks so if Pluto uses that before they get into CQC, Tarkus won't be able to get in or attack back.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

In which case, what's Pluto's stamina actually? Can he fight with massive injury like stab wounds, deep cuts and more?

Due to his Planet physiology, Pluto can keep fighting after multiple stab wounds, and fight while crippled and suffocating (Somehow Omori can make inanimate objects suffocate)

Not like a fall is gonna do Tarkus in.

Going to space would tho

Does Pluto have meteorites in his base key? Leading with those might **** Tarkus over, he has zero counter to range attacks so if Pluto uses that before they get into CQC, Tarkus won't be able to get in or attack back.

Probably not, meteorites are one of Pluto's ultimate moves and Base Pluto is basically Pluto while he's holding back

 

[Chariot190]

Due to his Planet physiology, Pluto can keep fighting after multiple stab wounds, and fight while crippled and suffocating (Somehow Omori can make inanimate objects suffocate)

Based on what exactly? You're telling me he could continue fighting with numerous large cuts across his body and stab wounds? I need the sauce for this because he's listed as "Stamina: At least Average". That wouldn't be average, that'd be superhuman.

Going to space would tho

This seems extremely out of context or disingenuous, for starters, if he was going to space he wouldn't be listed as transonic, because escape velocity alone is mach 22, let alone potentially far higher speeds for interstel travel, the fact he isn't tells me there's more to it than implied. Pluto also can't either, he'd be up on re-entry just the same as Tarkus would, probably worse because his mass is solid rock, and given the context of that game, it's all dream world stuff right? Him ******* off to space in a dream world isn't the same as doing so in an actual world with physics. It would take nearly 50 minutes for him to reach the absolute minimum of space as well, you honestly think space is at all a feasible place to go when it takes almost a hour to get there at his speed? I'd say no, it shouldn't even be considered an option, Tarkus would have killed him long before he reached space anyway if Tarkus was grabbed onto him while he flew in order to even reach the hypothetical of a re-entry fall, 50 minutes is a lot of time lad.
And why would Pluto fly into space to transform, that's an utterly ridiculous distance to safely transform, has he ever done something even comparable to that?

Idk man this starting to sound sus now

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Based on what exactly? You're telling me he could continue fighting with numerous large cuts across his body and stab wounds? I need the sauce for this because he's listed as "Stamina: At least Average". That wouldn't be average, that'd be superhuman.

Based on Omori's moves (STAB, CRIPPLE and SUFFOCATE)

This seems extremely out of context or disingenuous, for starters, if he was going to space he wouldn't be listed as transonic, because escape velocity alone is mach 22, let alone potentially far higher speeds for interstel travel, the fact he isn't tells me there's more to it than implied.

Omori and co were FTL due to Pluto being able to fly between planets in a small amount of time but they were downgraded because Otherworld is clearly shown in the world map to be much smaller than a real planet (OMORI's graphics are not to scale tho)

Also It wasn't serious

 

[Chariot190]

It comes from Omori's attacks (STAB, CRIPPLE and SUFFOCATE)

Those are his attacks but do they actually effect Pluto in that same vain? Like if Ohmori uses CRIPPLE does it ACTUALLY cripple him? Stab is something, but how deep is whatever Ohmori using to stab? Like if you were stabbed with a fork you'd say **** and it sucks but it's whatever, but being stabbed with a seal knife would be lethal and you'd probably go into shock immediately. Like how bad the stab wounds we talking? Because Tarkus' blade is on the hefty side of things. This could be anywhere from average to juggernaut. Im not gonna talk about suffocate because he has Type 1so he kinda doesnt even need oxygen (and the average person can hold their breath for like a minute+).

Otherworld is clearly shown in the world map to be much smaller than a real planet

Then why would a fall from space hurt if we're talking about skewed dreamy world stuff where the size of stuff is ******, and thus wouldn't have the same escape velocity of re-entry relative physics as we do thus effecting how much damage and energy one is submitted to by falling, it'd probably be 9-B tops lad

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Those are his attacks but do they actually effect Pluto in that same vain? Like if Omori uses CRIPPLE does it ACTUALLY cripple him?

It greatly lowers his speed so I think it's safe to assume it actually does cripple him

Stab is something, but how deep is whatever Ohmori using to stab? Like if you were stabbed with a fork you'd say **** and it sucks but it's whatever, but being stabbed with a seal knife would be lethal and you'd probably go into shock immediately. Like how bad the stab wounds we talking?

Steak Knife

Then why would a fall from space hurt if we're talking about skewed dreamy world stuff where the size of stuff is ******, and thus wouldn't have the same escape velocity of re-entry relative physics as we do thus effecting how much damage and energy one is submitted to by falling, it'd probably be 9-B tops lad

Oxygen

 

[DemonicDude]

Tarkus FRA

 

[Popted2]

Grace

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

 

[Chariot190]

It greatly lowers his speed so I think it's safe to assume it actually does cripple him

Then he's getting crippled and it's massively hindering his combat ability, that's not a good thing lad

Steak Knife

That's not even 1/20th the scope of Tarkus' blade, I'm gonna have to give Tarkus the advantage in terms of weaponry due to big dick energy.

Oxygen

against the undead zombie

Also everything I said still applies, would still take literally an hour almost to hit space at his speed among the rest.

a̵l̵s̵o̵ ̵l̵o̵w̵k̵e̵y̵ ̵t̵h̵i̵n̵k̵ ̵B̵r̵u̵f̵o̵r̵d̵ ̵d̵i̵d̵n̵'̵t̵ ̵n̵e̵e̵d̵ ̵t̵o̵ ̵b̵r̵e̵a̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵u̵n̵d̵e̵r̵w̵a̵t̵e̵r̵ ̵b̵e̵c̵a̵u̵s̵e̵ ̵h̵e̵ ̵w̵a̵s̵ ̵u̵n̵d̵e̵a̵d̵ ̵b̵u̵t̵ ̵i̵t̵ ̵w̵a̵s̵ ̵k̵i̵n̵d̵a̵ ̵v̵a̵g̵u̵e̵ ̵s̵o̵ ̵i̵d̵k̵

If it's any consolation, I think Pluto would win like 8/10 if he started off Expanded.

 

[First_Witch]

The majority seem to agree that Tarkus wins, so i will conclude this round. Do not add this until grace is over though.