DivineAura44
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So the argument in question is, are the SSJ Multipliers accurate?
On one hand, we have a official source, and that seems like it would be the end but the problem is, the SSJ Transformations are inconsistent. Cell was stomping Gohan who was in SSJ1. So how did turning SSJ2 flip that all on it's head? Well I'm gonna weigh in on this and provide my point.
I think the person who said the X2 wasn't a consistent boost either wasn't thinking straight, was drunk, or didn't watch Dragon Ball. D-did this wo/man not know Gohan's whole arc was about emotions? About rage? What I am saying is this.
I am not saying Power Levels are linear, don't snap at me. What we do know though is that anyone with a lower Power Level is weaker than the higher one. Gohan at the Raditz Saga had a power level of one. Keep in mind Goku and Piccolo (Gohan's Dad) are small planet. This is because he obliterated the moon. In 2 seconds. As you might know complete disintegration is way more than simple destruction. It's reducing it to non-existence. (Which ofc y'all also downplayed cuz it's DBZ, we can't have shit around here) Raditz is handling Piccolo, and someone on equal grounds at the same time. Stronger even. This is an arguable way to say he's 2 times as strong but he could be equal strength with more skill (which is BS, Goku has been training his martial arts since 12 maybe earlier and this is when Goku wasn't looking for power, but skill. Raditz and most other Saiyans look for power, but for the sake of the argument.) Farmer with a shotgun, without his shotgun is a PL of 5. He has a higher power level than Gohan and assuming Farmer is average human (Who knows? Maybe he is actually God so he's stronger thus rendering my point invalid, but I think it's fair for him to be Average Human.) Gohan with a rage boost goes from average human to able to damage a Small Planet level being? I think that's a 10x boost atleast? Maybe it's more but I think if 10 humans punched earth at the same time, it would collapse. Maybe I am lowballing and this would take more humans, idk. So if Gohan got that x10 boost x 2. That would be a 20x multiplier right? Once again I don't know too much but I think a 20x multiplier on the lowball can turn around a stomp, especially considering the rage boost should bigger. Piccolo was harsh to him and he barely knew Goku. Then he spent more time with his father oh, Goku too ofc. And Goku didn't just get beat down on he died. And there were more people getting beatdown aswell, including himself. He snapped and got the X2 and X10 boost. He fought Cell with the x20 boost and won. Is this too far-fetched?
I also wanna bring up the point that with this argument the SSJG transformation is a 28,000x multiplier. This seems high but can go higher. Goku in SSJ3 was less than 1% beerus x 70 for the 70% power thing and Goku is 70x400 in his God transformation. or 28,000x minimum.
Two things I wanna say, 1. I can already think of 2 arguments so think before you comment.
2. I doubt this was the only contradiction cuz they probably wouldn't cancel SSJ1, 2, and 3's multiplier for a single inconsistency on SSJ2. (Which was now proved to not be a inconsistency by this argument.) So if someone could tell me another inconsistency that would great.
Kinda wish I had a person more well versed to cover this like SSJRyu1 but this will have to do.
This is DivineAura44 signing out.
On one hand, we have a official source, and that seems like it would be the end but the problem is, the SSJ Transformations are inconsistent. Cell was stomping Gohan who was in SSJ1. So how did turning SSJ2 flip that all on it's head? Well I'm gonna weigh in on this and provide my point.
I think the person who said the X2 wasn't a consistent boost either wasn't thinking straight, was drunk, or didn't watch Dragon Ball. D-did this wo/man not know Gohan's whole arc was about emotions? About rage? What I am saying is this.
I am not saying Power Levels are linear, don't snap at me. What we do know though is that anyone with a lower Power Level is weaker than the higher one. Gohan at the Raditz Saga had a power level of one. Keep in mind Goku and Piccolo (Gohan's Dad) are small planet. This is because he obliterated the moon. In 2 seconds. As you might know complete disintegration is way more than simple destruction. It's reducing it to non-existence. (Which ofc y'all also downplayed cuz it's DBZ, we can't have shit around here) Raditz is handling Piccolo, and someone on equal grounds at the same time. Stronger even. This is an arguable way to say he's 2 times as strong but he could be equal strength with more skill (which is BS, Goku has been training his martial arts since 12 maybe earlier and this is when Goku wasn't looking for power, but skill. Raditz and most other Saiyans look for power, but for the sake of the argument.) Farmer with a shotgun, without his shotgun is a PL of 5. He has a higher power level than Gohan and assuming Farmer is average human (Who knows? Maybe he is actually God so he's stronger thus rendering my point invalid, but I think it's fair for him to be Average Human.) Gohan with a rage boost goes from average human to able to damage a Small Planet level being? I think that's a 10x boost atleast? Maybe it's more but I think if 10 humans punched earth at the same time, it would collapse. Maybe I am lowballing and this would take more humans, idk. So if Gohan got that x10 boost x 2. That would be a 20x multiplier right? Once again I don't know too much but I think a 20x multiplier on the lowball can turn around a stomp, especially considering the rage boost should bigger. Piccolo was harsh to him and he barely knew Goku. Then he spent more time with his father oh, Goku too ofc. And Goku didn't just get beat down on he died. And there were more people getting beatdown aswell, including himself. He snapped and got the X2 and X10 boost. He fought Cell with the x20 boost and won. Is this too far-fetched?
I also wanna bring up the point that with this argument the SSJG transformation is a 28,000x multiplier. This seems high but can go higher. Goku in SSJ3 was less than 1% beerus x 70 for the 70% power thing and Goku is 70x400 in his God transformation. or 28,000x minimum.
Two things I wanna say, 1. I can already think of 2 arguments so think before you comment.
2. I doubt this was the only contradiction cuz they probably wouldn't cancel SSJ1, 2, and 3's multiplier for a single inconsistency on SSJ2. (Which was now proved to not be a inconsistency by this argument.) So if someone could tell me another inconsistency that would great.
Kinda wish I had a person more well versed to cover this like SSJRyu1 but this will have to do.
This is DivineAura44 signing out.
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