• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact AKM sama if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.

THERE'S NO RUNNING FROM WEIRDMAGEDDON (Bill Cipher vs Sonic the Hedgehog) [0-4-0]

Not voting yet but Sonic seems to resist a sizable chunk of Bill’s powerset
 
Last edited:
ok so anyways Bill is kinda lacking in resistances, and sonic can neg his low godly regen and a ray of other attacks to attack bill with, for what I found for Bill he could put Sonic asleep, sonic has mind hax resistence tho so idk if bill could
 
Hyper Sonic is IIRC immensely above Super Sonic in AP, while Bill is only Baseline 2-A, so it may be best to make it Super Sonic vs Bill.

Also, Sonic negates his regeneration, but has no real way of killing him off.

At least Bill's Acausality lets him resist Sonic's temporal nuke.
 
Bill became 2-A finally? Talk about glow up

But doesn't Sonic resists transmutation? Bill goes for that against enemies he doesn't need to use like the other zodiac people aside from the pines, or would just do it on a whim like he did multiple times in weirdmaggedon
 
As I see it, sounds like a stomp on sonics favor...
But here I come, rougher than Knuckles, the best of them, tougher than Knuckles [...]

Instead of talking about how Super Sonic has better use of Chaos Control and Hyper Sonic vastly increase it, which makes Sonic simply Sealing him easily doable [...]I'd rather flex my Knuckles.

(Haven't made clear: voting sonic if this isn't a stomp for him FRA)
 
Last edited:
I'm leaning towards sonic here

Sonic starts with spin attack which can blitz bill

Sonic being able to resist a good amount of bills abilities makes it easier for Sonic

Since Sonic can negate his immortality i think Sonic has this
 
I also think Sonic’s got this; on top of his resistances he has so much experience fighting arrogant gods it’s insane. He could rush Bill down with a charge and end it there if not give him the Erazor Djinn treatment and punch him in the eye.
 
MintyBoi1 said:
I also think Sonic’s got this; on top of his resistances he has so much experience fighting arrogant gods it’s insane. He could rush Bill down with a charge and end it there if not give him the Erazor Djinn treatment and punch him in the eye.
Click to expand...
in bill's defense, he usually isn't arrogant against stronger opponents, and will go directly for the kill.
 
That’s true but Sonic doesn’t look like Time Baby for example at first glance. Super Sonic would add more intimidation factor but I think Bill would undermine him still, afterall his whole thing is defying people’s expectations of him
 
MintyBoi1 said:
That’s true but Sonic doesn’t look like Time Baby for example at first glance. Super Sonic would add more intimidation factor but I think Bill would undermine him still, afterall his whole thing is defying people’s expectations of him
Click to expand...
I feel like Bill seeing Sonic being a flying golden hedgehog would make him a bit wary, especially when Sonic starts attacking and Bill realize his power. Sonic has haxes to deal with Bill probably but he doesn't start with them so Bill could potentially react to this, especially since he has precognition too to an extent
 
GlaceonGamez471 said:
Doesn't his profile outright state it's not combat applicable? Besides that, does it even have feats of working on those with type 4 Acausality?
Click to expand...
Ah right forgot about that. Well the point of Bill still likely could react to Sonic after being attacked would still work since Sonic doesn't start with hax in character, though he could use it later if he sees that AP doesn't work on Bill
 
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
I feel like Bill seeing Sonic being a flying golden hedgehog would make him a bit wary, especially when Sonic starts attacking and Bill realize his power. Sonic has haxes to deal with Bill probably but he doesn't start with them so Bill could potentially react to this, especially since he has precognition too to an extent
Click to expand...
Yeah upon attacking for sure Bill goes on guard but before Sonic probably gets it free
 
noninho said:
As I see it, sounds like a stomp on sonics favor...
But here I come, rougher than Knuckles, the best of them, tougher than Knuckles [...]

Instead of talking about how Super Sonic has better use of Chaos Control and Hyper Sonic vastly increase it, which makes Sonic simply Sealing him easily doable [...]I'd rather flex my Knuckles.

(Haven't made clear: voting sonic if this isn't a stomp for him FRA)
Click to expand...
counted
XxZetsuxX said:
I'm leaning towards sonic here

Sonic starts with spin attack which can blitz bill

Sonic being able to resist a good amount of bills abilities makes it easier for Sonic

Since Sonic can negate his immortality i think Sonic has this
Click to expand...
counted?
MintyBoi1 said:
I also think Sonic’s got this; on top of his resistances he has so much experience fighting arrogant gods it’s insane. He could rush Bill down with a charge and end it there if not give him the Erazor Djinn treatment and punch him in the eye.
Click to expand...
counted
 
Well seems like Sonic could still be put to sleep so it's either Bill snapping him before that happens, or Sonic would find a way to get around his regeneration.

BFR with Chaos Control wouldn't work because the portal is open so Bill could simply come back from BFR
 
I see that Sonic resists Biological Manipulation and Transmutation. Does he resists Bill's Matter Manipulation?
 
Bill can also put Sonic to sleep and only needs a snap, so it's not as simple. But Sonic's speed advantage would make it much more likely for Sonic to use his winning hax first

Voting for Sonic if it isn't clear
 
Wouldn't Type 3 only means you get infinite stamina and thus never needing to go to sleep? It doesn't give them an immunity to sleep hax or being forcibly put asleep, just that they don't need it to survive
 
Sonic FRA but I don't see any real wincon here for Bill

Base Sonic vs Low 2-C Bill (or maybe Base Archie Sonic vs Low 2-C Bill) would be a better match.
 
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
Wouldn't Type 3 only means you get infinite stamina and thus never needing to go to sleep? It doesn't give them an immunity to sleep hax or being forcibly put asleep, just that they don't need it to survive
Click to expand...
In another thread I tried to argue that Bill can use his sleep manipulation but they told me Bill needs feats of affecting Type 3s to use it on people with Type 3.
 
A 346x amp, huh. Matches where characters win due to blitzing can't get added to profiles. Makes sense why Sonic has almost no notable losses now
 
Spilxson2 said:
A 346x amp, huh. Matches where characters win due to blitzing can't get added to profiles. Makes sense why Sonic has almost no notable losses now
Click to expand...
“THERE'S NO RUNNING FROM WEIRDMAGEDDON!”
“WELL I'M RUNNING INTO IT!!!!!”
“The hell that even means, I don't know if you're ripping off a needle cushion, Samus Aran, super saiyan or blue b - NOT THE EYE AGAIN THIS HURTS WORSE THAN SEEING ANY GALLERY WITH YOUR NAME IN IT WITHOUT A FILTER AGH”
This fight.
 
Spilxson2 said:
A 346x amp, huh. Matches where characters win due to blitzing can't get added to profiles. Makes sense why Sonic has almost no notable losses now
Click to expand...
This only applies if a slower character win against a faster character by blitzing due to speed equalizing rules, and Sonic is faster than Bill
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Bill Cipher vs Maxwell (0-0-1)
Replies
14
Views
560
Spilxson2
  • Locked
Hyper Sonic vs Danny Phantom
Replies
1
Views
327
LordGriffin1000
LordGriffin1000
ShionAH
The DIMENSION Master VS The All Seeing EYE
Replies
30
Views
612
StrymULTRA
StrymULTRA
Sonic the Hedgehog vs The Player (Wizard101) (2-2-0)
2
Replies
146
Views
3K
Spilxson2
Mariogoods
  • Locked
Bill Cipher VS Sun Wukong (Journey to the West)
Replies
0
Views
389
Mariogoods
Mariogoods
Top