The Outside

[LuckyCharmingStar]

What is the outside? The outside is an absolute void Beyond space,time,life,death,imaginable,dualities Outside of all old and new creations etc. The Absolute Void.

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

Bump

 

[Amintyrese95]

WTF


Galactus literally tore a hole through the outside, what level should that be at. is it unquantifiable

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

WTF

Galactus literally tore a hole through the outside, what level should that be at. is it unquantifiable

it means nothing lol .

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Might be 1-A. But not sure.

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

@zach yeah I believe it is or just High 1-A.

 

[Antvasima]

Being outside of the space and time of a High 1-B multiversal structure does not scale as 1-A, especially for characters such as Thanos, the Ultimates, and even Galactus, who are just minor parts of the structure in question.

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

Being outside of the space and time of a High 1-B multiversal structure does not scale as 1-A, especially for characters such as Thanos, the Ultimates, and even Galactus, who are just minor parts of the structure in question.

but this is the absolute void outside of all creation which include old and new creations and you onces said existing in 1-A realm doesn't make you 1-A right

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, that is correct, and we do not know if it is truly a 1-A place to start with. It could just be an empty High 1-B space that is much larger than Multi-Eternity.

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

@ ANt it seems nearly the same of this realm both b

nearly the same

een stated to be beyond imagination and this realm was stated to be 1-A

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

@Ant I totally understand we should wait till there is more information

 

[Antvasima]

Well, that Defenders issue also seems like unreliable hyperbole, as it implies that (at best) 2-C level entities like Dormammu and Umar work on an 1-A level.

In addition, different Marvel writers tend to work with different concepts, largely unaware of the specifics each others' stories.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

The Outside is a 1-A space (Actually not space at all, but you get my point).

Simply being on the Outside doesn't make you 1-A, just like being on Oblivion's Realm or TOAA's Heaven doesn't make you 1-A.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Otherwise Randolph carter is 1-A

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Otherwise Randolph carter is 1-A

He is tho.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I meant before becoming part of yog sothoth. He would be.

 

[Antvasima]

@Matthew

I am not so sure that it is a 1-A space, but you may or may not be correct.

Regardless, as you say, it does not automatically scale to anybody.

@Zachary

Well, I think that Randolph Carter technically was turned into a 1-A by Yog-Sothoth, but the point is correct in itself.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

@Ant

http://www.cbr.com/ewings-ultimates-transform-galactus-travel-outside-the-known-marvel-universe/

"It's not really a realm — it's outside all realms. Beyond everything — beyond limbo, beyond the Neutral Zone, beyond even Eternity's influence. Right out into the absolute nothing. The Ultimates are heading out there because time is broken — or at least clearly badly dented — and they want to take a look at the damage, and they can't really do that from the inside. You can't fix a car while you're in it — you've got to get out and take a look under the hood. By taking this difficult, dangerous journey to the very outside of everything, the team are hoping to get a fresh perspective on what's wrong with spacetime and, maybe, take some steps to correct the problems."

- Al Ewing
It is definitely 1-A.

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

@Ant yeah here is the scans about the outside i did https://imgur.com/a/inYsb

Even galactus can't handle the outside if he stays way to long in it.

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

'the outcast wanted to stay there in the absence where there had no meaning'

 

[Antvasima]

Well, that does still not necessarily read like 1-A. It simply means that it is beyond the High 1-B structure of Multi-Eternity, not that it is automatically beyond the concepts of space and time altogether.

Again, I am neutral regarding this issue. I am just saying that we do not know for sure.

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

But there is no time and space in the outside was also stated

 

[Antvasima]

Really? That might be valid then. Can you show a scan?

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

galactus ripping the No Space

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

And the outisde contains the neverqueen, The first firmament, the other multiverses and more.

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

The pure and perfect nothing

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

Endless void claim

 

[Antvasima]

Well, it still seems to have been described in a rather rather ambivalent manner. Our Tiering System page says: "There are two options in order to qualify for this tier: There should either be a qualitative superiority over infinite dimensions; or the superiority over the concept of dimensions (in general) should be clearly explained."

The above could be interpreted either way, so I am not sure.

 

[Antvasima]

Then again, this is due to that I am not the most knowledgeable regarding the 1-A concept.

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

Alright the difference between superiority between infinite dimensions and the concept dimensions is that one is high 1-b and one is 1-A? or are both 1-A?

 

[Antvasima]

Mere superiority usually means a higher degree of High 1-B, whereas qualitative superiority over the concept of dimensions is much more impressive.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

The Outside is 1-A.

The Multi-Abstracts aren't.

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

@ant well yeah but isn't eternity also made of lower and higher dimensions? and eternity also contain most high 1-B's

 

[Antvasima]

@Matthew

Well, the problem is that neither of us have a sufficiently deep understanding of 1-A to know exactly where to draw the line.

@Lucky

Yes, that is correct.

 

[Shivansh_Garg]

I wanted to tell how Thanos trapped in the 'outside' beyond life and death wasn't able to see Eternity's true form but, I would stay quite for now lol

 

[Antvasima]

This is a very old thread, so I will close it.