The Betrayer vs The Blinding One

[The_real_cal_howard]

Khârn the Betrayer vs Necrozma

Speed equalized. 4-B for both.


Necrozma

 

[DodoNova2]

Hmmm .....
Kharn Negate?

 

[Kaltias]

Hmmm .....
Kharn Negate?

Only stuff that it isn't fair combat.

So stuff like mind hax/possession and possibly BFR (Although this one depends from how it's used).

Stuff like Necrozma hitting Kharn really hard with Metal Claw works just fine.

 

[Thatoneguy78]

so how far into solar system Level is Necrozma?

 

[Schnee_One]

1 Megafoe?

 

[Thatoneguy78]

Isn't Kharn only above like baseline SS or am I forgetting something

 

[Schnee_One]

Yes but his durability is far higher

 

[Thatoneguy78]

Which is in the Low gigafoe if i'm Remembering this correctly

 

[Thatoneguy78]

Also, doesn't Kharn need to get like a killing blow in order for his Gorechild to do it's thing?

 

[Wokistan]

It still negs durability in the same way genestealer claws do, the part about needing a killing blow just means he isn't going to accidentally kill himself by nicking himself with the blade. Basically, it does ignore dura, while also having soulhax as an insurance policy against anything that would otherwise survive being bisected by gorechild or something.

 

[Thatoneguy78]

Can the axe be reflected or is that considered unfair?

 

[Wokistan]

How does the reflect work? Considering Kharn has fought daemons and humans alike for around 11k years, he's almost certainly run into attack reflection before.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Pretty sure Matt and Azzy said the axe doesn't ignore durability...

 

[Wokistan]

I'm pretty sure they said it didn't resist dura in the sense that clipping someone with it doesn't mean khorne just owns your soul now, but I remember it having some more mundane measure of dura negation that was accepted. It hurt Abaddon after all. I'll go dig through old threads to see if I can find anything.

 

[Thatoneguy78]

@the real cal Howard so is necrozama only allowed his natural move set or are tm's allowed?

 

[Kaltias]

Pretty sure that Gorechild ignores durability, even your average chainaxe has monomolecular teeth to negate dura.

 

[Wokistan]

Where has the calc for Necrozma's AP gone?

There was a time where a normal khornate axe negated the armor and magical defense of Magnus, gorechild should at the very least be comparable to basic axes of the same faction.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Can't Necro also use his Z-moves here? He's definitely one of the ones that should be perfectly capable of using them on his own.

 

[Thatoneguy78]

Can't Necro also use his Z-moves here? He's definitely one of the ones that should be perfectly capable of using them on his own.

I mean as long as it fair by Khorne standards then it's alright