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Sword Art Online: Ordinal Scale keys?

Xmark12

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Since Ordinal Scale came out for blue ray and we're able to see the feats clearly on the internet, I was just wondering whether or not we should add an Ordinal Scale key to the SAO characters' profiles.

Here's what I think should be added:

Since all of the characters have human speed and stamina in AR (since, you know, they're still technically in the real world), but in VR they have superhuman speeds, the characters should have something like this for their Ordinal Scale keys:

Speed: Average Human level in AR (<-- this could also be Athletic Human or Peak Human, gotta look at the movie battles again. Kirito could be Peak Human however, since he was able to keep up with the likes of Eiji, someone who was using some sort of device to augment his physical characteristics), Supersonic+ with Hypersonic+ reaction and combat speed in VR (<-- same as they usually are in VR)

Stamina: Average Human in AR, SuperHuman in VR

But, we should keep their stats as Unknow in AR, because while it was shown that the players were still able to push back and kill the giant bosses of the game, including bosses past floor 56, such as Gleam Eyes, ther durability completely negates this fact, since they all are basically still human level in durability. I propose having their durability in AR as Average Human level, while keeping everything else at Unknow. It could be possible for Kirito and Eiji to be 9-C in AR however, since the latter was enhanced, and the former was able to keep up with him.

Also, if there ever will be a profile for Eiji, I recommend adding Precognition to his Powers and Abilities via the Augma, since it predicts oncoming attacks before they actually hit.

Now, onto the final fight scene in VR. I believe that the characters participating should be moved to At least High 8-C, since that boss was immensely superior to the 56th floor boss GeoCrawler, being the floor 100 boss after-all. The likely higher can be added as well. For Kirito, this would be added to his Aincrad key, since he was using his Aincrad avatar after-all. Maybe some calcers can calculate the last boss fight to determine that. The video of the fight is here, though it may be taken down soon, so it may be best to download it before that happens.

Finally, the final boss drop sword. It's shown to be able to kill many Aincrad floor bosses in one fell swoop. This weapon seems to have a range of a couple of meters, depending on how large the stadium is. There's gonna have to be another calc for that. But other than that, I still believe Kirito with this weapon would still be At least High 8-C, likely higher, since it's immensely superior to all other weapons to an unknown extent.

That's all I have for now in terms of feats, so till next time, signing off! Ask questions and whatnot below on whether you agree or disagree.

P.S: Did Kirito use the sword skill Eclipse at the end of the final boss fight? If so, that could actually be added to his profile (Always wondered why the skill isn't on there).
 
Someone should definitely calc that last boss yes. I'm not a calc group member but it's possible that might reach Large Building Level+ to even City-Block Level.


I also agree with the "At least High 8-C" for the participants and the "likely higher" for Kirito as well.
 
1- Since there is nothing absolute on this thread, rather making guesses based on calcable feats, this should belong on general discussion for now.

2- I can try calcing Kirito's explosion and the explosion prior to that one, but I need something to scale off, so if anyone has the height of the boss or concept art comparing sizes that would be appreciated.
 
It seems as though Kirito is approx. as big as the boss' head:
Kirito vs Final Boss


and this is the boss' full body:
Full Body Boss


Kirito is stated to be 172 cm. From this information and from what I can see, the boss is ~15 heads tall, or ~2580 cm, or ~25.8 m, or ~84.65 ft.

I could be wrong, since that's just a rough height, but since I wasn't able to find anything about the boss' true height, this was the best I could do.
 
Gonna need something better sadly, are you sure there isn't any concept art I can use?
 
Sorry, I wasn't able to find any concept art on the internet.
 
I'm kinda on the fence with quantifying Ordinal Scale due to canonicity issues, so yeah.

That said:

Speed would be Average Human, based on what was shown, with Eiji or whatever edgy athletic kid with dead girlfriend being Athletic Human. At least, their movement and combat speed would be. Kirito won't scale to that since he's sword Jesus anyway with higher reactions (Hypersonic+) than his normal human self allows, which nulls somewhat his crappier real world speed stat, as seen when he got disarmed and could only barely dodge until he got the chance to body flip Eiji and remove the thing on the back of his neck.

Re: last boss, We have this.

Sao last boss scale
Agil is stated to be 1.8m, so taking his image here as such...
The yellowish orange ornate something on the spear would be 6.33m scaling off that.

The boss would be roughly 57.2m tall.

Though it could be muddled by animation size shifts, so we need some mentioned height or some character art to measure it from.
 
Mkay, makes sense.

I guess yeah we would probably need character art or a mentioned height to go off of.

What do you think for their AP? In both AR and VR (in the final boss).
 
We'd need scaling from the bosses for that. The AR, I don't remember them tanking anything.

VR has that feat of Agil catching its spear with his axe. Probably, after getting that height for the giant monster thing, we scale an average human's stats to its size. Iirc it's an exponential increase though, when something grows large like that, lest it dies when it tries to walk.
 
Alrighty, I guess we can wait for more input then, or wait till we get character art/mentioned height.
 
After digging, I'VE FINALLY GOT IT! Here's the official comparison between the boss and Kirito:

An Incarnation of the Radius - OS Production Book full body
Hopefully some calcs can finally come out of this!
 
Huge af. Anyways, iirc, Ordinal Scale is confirmed canon so this one if calced is a go.
 
The size of the monster is 22.14 meters according to what I got from pixel scaling. May be able to calc it once I get a handle of my current laptop.
 
Got it. Hope we get something higher than their current ratings so it can make sense that the Ordinal Scale avatars are stronger than their SAO avatars (100th floor boss right there, and clearers during the 75th were getting killed by single attacks).
 
Welp.

Also I just realized my first estimate of the boss' size was actually kind of accurate, lol.
 
Ye

Anyways, looking at the final part of the boss fight via the video you showed, we don't see the explosion's full size by a long shot, so the result is probably not gonna be as impressive as it should be. But what I got is that the explosion was at minimum 98.5684931507 meters long using pixel scaling.

Though, Kirito and Asuna's SAO avatars managed to make massive slashes with shockwaves affecting a pretty big chunk of the room, which would upgrade their range considerably, so not all is lost.
 
There's a wide explosion near the beginning of the fight iirc.
 
That explosion should be City Block level at least.
 
Welp, just bumping this to see if there was any progress done.
 
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