Sun Wukong Infinite speed problem???

[StrymULTRA]

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Speed: Massively FTL+ (Sun Wukong was capable of reaching the ends of Heaven itself within a very short period of time. That would make him 97.826 Quadrillion times the Speed of Light[109][110]), possibly Infinite (The Realms that Sun Wukong has traveled to and from using his somersaults are currently rated as potential space-times within the cosmology)

It's weird because:

• Nowhere in the blog is said that the universes are infinite in size, we only see this: Each World within JTTW can be slightly larger than our Universe to Infinite in Size. (which is weird, why saying the late part if there's no statement hinting to the universe being such)?
• Crossing between space-times means nothing for being above MFTL+.

Sooo... what's going on?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Agreed, remove it.

Oops, thought this was a CRT. Yeah, that reasoning makes no sense. The only thing that would give Sun Wukong Infinite Speed in his first two keys is his Size Manipulation.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Agreed, remove it.

Oops, thought this was a CRT. Yeah, that reasoning makes no sense. The only thing that would give Sun Wukong Infinite Speed in his first two keys is his Size Manipulation.

Thing seems super straightforward, thought that there's some context.

Can it be already applied?

 

[Flashlight237]

Back in the time of the novel's writing, the universe has no set measurement, much unlike now where we have the universe's size set at 93 billion light years. Ancient descriptions, regardless of who wrote them, claimed that the universe is infinite, hence the infinite rating.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Ancient descriptions, regardless of who wrote them, claimed that the universe is infinite, hence the infinite rating.

Huh?

 

[Flashlight237]

Huh?

The novel was originally published in 1592. The first time anyone went out of their way to actually measure the universe is in 1958: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_universe

The only description of the universe the original author of the book would've had would be ancient customary beliefs. While I haven't checked on what the Chinese's beliefs of the universe were, mythological beliefs of the universe around the world are either an infinite sky (like in Greek mythology) or an infinite sea (many myths had the sea as a pre-existing entity).

 

[StrymULTRA]

While I haven't checked on what the Chinese's beliefs of the universe were, mythological beliefs of the universe around the world are either an infinite sky (like in Greek mythology) or an infinite sea (many myths had the sea as a pre-existing entity).

You'd need like a hard proof here tbh.

 

[Flashlight237]

You'd need like a hard proof here tbh.

If you really want to be that way... A lot of it is best explained through Buddhist cosmology, which is detailed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_cosmology

Mount Sumeru, the thing in Buddhist cosmology that Sun Wukong directly interacted with let alone lifted, is the mountain that serves as the central axis of the spatial part of the universe. The Buddhist universe has at least two infinite entities (Sphere of Infinite Consciousness and Sphere of Infinite Space, maybe Sphere of Nothingness if you want to get that far) within the spatial portion of it even when considering the debate as to whether the universe is finite or infinite. While the easiest source I can pick from (Death Battle) may be a bit dodgy, they brought up the transliteration for the writing of "universe", which also means "every manisfestation of nature" along with a translated novel quote:


Keeping with the Chinese transliteration, to see the universe as "every manisfestation in nature" means the universe is everything. Having at least one infinite entity in its space alone (Sphere of Infinite Space; yes, they actually used that keyterm) as part of said everything already makes the universe itself infinite; the one or two extra infinities may as well be flavor.

Keep in mind, the universe thing is done as Sun Wukong's idea to leave the Buddha's left hand, not realizing that the Buddha's hand encompasses an infinity beyond even the universe and realms outside of it (ex. the thirteen hells). I had heard from one Reddit user that Sun Wukong supposedly actually made it to the Buddha's fingers and pissed on them, but that guy never bothered to show scans for it, so uhh...