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Spidey faces a different kind of threat

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Let's see how this goes, shall we?

Spiderman (Avengers Alliance) vs Luna (Seikatsu)

Rules:
· Speed is equalized
· 9-A keys are utilized (Spiderman's 2nd key and Luna's 1st key)
· Both start 100 meters apart of each other, within a city like any other.
· Luna does not have her conceptual manipulation haxs.
· Win is obtained by killing the opponent.

Spiderboy: 0

Moongirl: 0

Happy Ending (Inconclusive): 3 (Colonel_Krukov, iOmni, ThePrimalHunter)
 
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Colonel_Krukov

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I'll comment in more detail later, just want to know something first.

There's a class system in which characters are strong/weak against, so just wondering what your character would fall into to see if it'd effect spider man. (Pick one that sounds the closest)

Blaster: Character that shoots guns/energy beams a lot as their primary source of damage
Tactician: Person who plays there attacks carefully and strategically
Infiltrator: Sneaks around and hits from the shadows and more focused on stealth
Brawler: A hand to hand combatant who focuses on martial arts and punching the opponent
Bruiser: A tanky character, usually a really big being who smashes around and can take a lot of punishment
Generalist: Kinda a jack of all trades person, slightly matches all of the definitions mentioned above.
 
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Luna would honestly be a generalist, since her fighting style is leaning both towards being a brawler and a tactician.
 

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Alright, generalists have no strengths/weaknesses against the other classes, so that doesn't matter that much.
 
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For the actual fight now, Luna would probably either start off by shooting some wind shockwaves at Spiderman, or trying to close up the distance between the two in order to have a close-ranged fight.
 
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Alright actually for less confusion I'm going to analyze both of the statistics that could be important.

  • Spiderman's AP is of 82,794,093.42 while Luna's AP is of ~95,298,833 J.
  • As there is no explanation on his Durability stat, I can assume that his durability, and therefore both of their durability stats scale directly to their AP.
  • Speed is equalized.
  • The intelligence gap is massive on Spidey's side, with Spiderman being extraordinary genius and Luna being above average.
  • Both of them are at Class 10 lifting strength.

And their techniques / items:

  • Spidey has different types of techniques regarding webs, plus his spider sense that allows him to react to attacks as if he had precognition.
  • Luna has wind-based ranged atacks, and the ability to make rifts to close up distance and travel faster.
  • In addition, Spiderman has the Isotope-8 that allows him to buff himself and debuff others, while Luna has a weapon that scales to the opponent's AP (not very useful in this situation unless spidey uses AP buffs).

Conclusions on their stats and others:

  • Luna holds a minimal AP and Durability advantage over Spiderman, who can possibly close the durability advantage with the Iso-8; yet his opponent could just notice and use her weapon to scale to his amped AP.
  • Due to the scenario they're fighting on, Spiderman holds a ranged advantage via webshots that can immobilize opponents, plus he can gain distances by webslinging through buildings.
  • Luna can shorten the distance between herself and Spiderman via using dimensional rifts to teleport from one side to another, though he can just regain said distance pretty easily if there are still nearby structures he can websling off.

Don't know if I missed anything.
 

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Looks like really good analysis. Only thing I can say is that Spidey has a bit of stealth and lots of experience/feats as well.
 
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My bad for not existing. Just want to say that while Spiderman has stealth and experience, stealth isn't really going to help much against Luna's aggresive fighting style and experience... well, includes superpowered foes, but probably not much with the amount of survival experience his new opponent has (which would help her out on something, even if not much). Plus high-low regeneration that matters on her defensive capabilities btw.

So more conclusions on this:
· Spidey has an overall better ranged arsenal, more intelligence and more experience at fighting while Luna has overall better statistics, regeneration and a far more aggresive fighting style to close up the range gap.
 

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Spiderman's amping isn't that obvious (There's no visible aura or anything). Iso-8 are pieces of meteorite that similar to crystals. In this form he has access to fragments and some shards. (Tier 2 and Tier 3 Iso-8, the maximum being Tier 5). I honestly don't have a guide as to how fast the effects of Iso-8 are tbh. I'd say the the tier 2 stuff is just slightly below average and the tier 3 stuff is only slightly quick. I guess Luna can always catch-up when she notices that Spidey seems to be getting stronger.

I'm not sure how to judge Spidey's win con here since you made the battle to the death. He's not really one to kill for obvious reasons in a normal state of mind. Thinking on what he can do with what he has is to just pin Luna up against something and web her mouth and nose shut, or even neck snap (If that's enough against High-Low?).

Spidey does far outclass her in feats though via having MCU and 616 feats, as well as in-game feats mentioned.
 
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Thing is that Luna isn't the one to scale to Spiderman's AP, but her weapon is, and this is automatic for obvious reasons (Being a passive effect the weapon has rather than something Luna makes the weapon to have). Even then, only AP scales with the weapon.

Neck snapping would be enough since to regenerate from it she'd require of Mid Regen, which she doesn't have. However, trying to pin Luna against something like a wall would bring Spidey the extreme risk of engaging on a close combat fight that he normally would have a power disadvantage on, and in which receiving a hit would most likely mean being pummeled on punches by someone on a similar AP range. Even if he tried webbing her though, missing would basically mean Luna has a chance to strike with her shockwaves. Plus she can just cover herself with her dimensional rifts in order to redirect them somewhere else.

Spidey does outclass her in feats, however the feats involving stealth are virtually useless on a deathmatch like this; plus he'd need to really think on a way to counter Luna's High-Low regen when she can just regenerate her wounds to an extent in seconds and even reattach her limbs if they were to be deattached.
 

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I'm not sure what else would work. Spidey-Man has a little bit of hax, but I don't know if it'll help.
 
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Well durability bypass wouldn't really be useful as they're on a similar range of power, only thing I could see working would be his power nullification; though I don't really know how it works, so could you explain it to me please?
 

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Being webbed prevents melee, ranged attacks, and buff abilities, although you've said that she can break out of this so it doesn't matter. Other than that, his Tangled Empowered Iso-8 makes it so his attacks removes and prevents statistics amplification.

Curious to know if his information analysis helps him out here. "(His senses are acute to enemy attacks and defences so he can bypass things like Enhanced Senses, Probability Manipulation, Illusion Manipulation)"
 
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I swear I replied to this. Anyways, she doesn't have any of those three things so it wouldn't really help him much.
 

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I have a couple more questions about the stat amping.

Considering that Luna doesn't scale to her weapons amplification:

1. Does she have her own form of amping
2. Can Spidey's Amp prevention work on Luna
3. And her weapon

If it goes how I think, I'm going to vote inconclusive.
 
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1. Luna doesn't have any amps herself, it's only the weapon that scales to the opponent's AP.
2. If Luna can hit Spiderman with her weapon then it wouldn't really work, for the reason mentioned above (Luna doesn't get amped by herself, only the AP with the weapon scales).
3. ^^ still not an amp, it simply is a passive scalling. If it was there'd be a 'stats amplification' ability on her profile anyways.

I might as well vote inconclusive tbh
 

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Going with inconclusive. Reason being is that while Spidey far outclasses Luna in terms of feats and is probably awkward to hit (via precog), his main source of attack just webbing the opponent doesn't work and is likely to hold back on killing, since it's the win-con.
 

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Happy ending? So they give up fighting each other and instead fight crime together?
 

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I was thinking that their universe merge marvel vs capcom style, and they just, team up and fight their respective villains together.
 
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Haven't written Luna's enemies yet on the wiki but I think all 3 of them would very easily beat Spiderman. Maybe not one on supressed form but still.
 
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