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Sora (Kingdom Hearts) vs Superior Saturday
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Saturday one shots.
Sora: 4B for being massively superior to High 4Cs.
Saturday: Far superior to someone who created a pocket dimension with a Solar System.
Not taking their hax into account however, just stating.
Sora: 4B for being massively superior to High 4Cs.
Saturday: Far superior to someone who created a pocket dimension with a Solar System.
Not taking their hax into account however, just stating.
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Monarch suggested this to me, I dont know much about KtK
Also, all key wielders iirc have a solar system in their keys, so it is not that far above baseline.
Also, all key wielders iirc have a solar system in their keys, so it is not that far above baseline.
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Also, a pocket dimension with a Solar System can be as far as baseline to mid considering it all depends on the Star GBE more then anything. But again, I dont know KtK
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It's not about having a SS in their keys, it's about the big feat that Saturday is vastly superior to is a dimension even wider then the Solar System it created.
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Massively superior... idk. Because I have not read the books. I will notify monarch of this thread before I continue on.
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Also, if you can make an argument without it being a 'one shot' that be nice. I am not saying I disagree, I havent read the books but a reasoning on who would win based on p + a would be nice.
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(Vastly Superior to Grim Tuesday)-Superior Saturday's page.
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Can you...make an argument other then SS one shots? Again, not saying I disagree, but that seems like an argument in semantics.
I mean, there is more to SS then just 'one shot' Her abilities are ridiculous
I mean, there is more to SS then just 'one shot' Her abilities are ridiculous
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I'm not arguing, I'm stating, quoting my first comment.
"Not taking their hax into account however, just stating"
"Not taking their hax into account however, just stating"
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Cool. I am still waiting lol. Not trying to be rude, this could be a stomp in SS favor. I just made this because Monarch said piper or ss has feats. I personally wanted to do Arthur vs Sora, who might also be baseline. Edit: If this is a hax stomp or stomp in SS, I take no responsibility for this lol. Dont blame me too hard, admins in the future <\\3
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In case anyone is wondering, here is Tuesday's SS feat. I've bolded the important parts.
'What are these "worldlets" in the bottles?" he asked.
"Ah, the bottles are something I taught Grim Tuesday myself," Tom said. "you see, if you've got the art and the craft and the power, and a bottle made special, you can copy a little piece of the Secondary Realms and stick it in that bottle. It'll stay right there, right and tight, place and time and all, unless someone pulls the stopper. And if you've got the secret of it, you can visit whatever placess you've got in your bottle."
'So they're all copies of real ships in real places?' Now that Arthur looked closely at the bottles, he could see that the ships were moving, the sea splashing, the sun - sometimes more than one sun - shifting in the sky.
All but one bottle,' answered Tom. 'There's one that holds a real place, not a copy. One where time flows like it should, not round and round for a few copied hours.
What do you mean?' asked Arthur. 'What's in that one bottle?
Tom smiled. 'I'm as pleased as punch you asked that question, for it's the one I've been wanting to tell you. That single bottle holds a sun, and several worlds, and a sunship, the finest ever built.
'What are these "worldlets" in the bottles?" he asked.
"Ah, the bottles are something I taught Grim Tuesday myself," Tom said. "you see, if you've got the art and the craft and the power, and a bottle made special, you can copy a little piece of the Secondary Realms and stick it in that bottle. It'll stay right there, right and tight, place and time and all, unless someone pulls the stopper. And if you've got the secret of it, you can visit whatever placess you've got in your bottle."
'So they're all copies of real ships in real places?' Now that Arthur looked closely at the bottles, he could see that the ships were moving, the sea splashing, the sun - sometimes more than one sun - shifting in the sky.
All but one bottle,' answered Tom. 'There's one that holds a real place, not a copy. One where time flows like it should, not round and round for a few copied hours.
What do you mean?' asked Arthur. 'What's in that one bottle?
Tom smiled. 'I'm as pleased as punch you asked that question, for it's the one I've been wanting to tell you. That single bottle holds a sun, and several worlds, and a sunship, the finest ever built.
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Damn Monarch, back at it again with your quotes.
But do you plan to vote?~ (i still hope this fair tbh)
But do you plan to vote?~ (i still hope this fair tbh)
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Maybe in a few hours. I have some things to do IRL right now
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Also, I sent a message to you on your wall, nothing big, reply when your most comfortable.
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What's Sora's mindset in combat?
Because right now, I'm seeing Saturday telling him to die and him keeling over.
Because right now, I'm seeing Saturday telling him to die and him keeling over.
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Sora.....Is kinda hard to tell.
He has a rather childish demeanor.
He has a rather childish demeanor.
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Sora is never childish in combat.
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Conceded
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So what does he used first?
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Sora is serious but usually starts off with his Keyblade, in cutscenes and such
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Basically, it is hard to tell like most jrpgs.
But he is usually on the defensive until he can OHK.
So parries, magic reflect etc.
I dont know how long that would last against SS tho
But he is usually on the defensive until he can OHK.
So parries, magic reflect etc.
I dont know how long that would last against SS tho
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Probably not long.
Saturday doesn't swordfight, she just uses magic. She'd probably just write "death" or something in mid-air with the key, then the words would fly over to Sora and kill him a la Dark Ecriture.
Or stick him in a pocket universe, then throw the whole thing into Nothing.
Saturday doesn't swordfight, she just uses magic. She'd probably just write "death" or something in mid-air with the key, then the words would fly over to Sora and kill him a la Dark Ecriture.
Or stick him in a pocket universe, then throw the whole thing into Nothing.
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Want to add Sora has resisted the powers of death manipulation in the past although it would still work, just not instantly
and broke out of pocket universes..
Sora: 0
SS: 1
and broke out of pocket universes..
Sora: 0
SS: 1
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@Gargoyle
Erm. No.
Sora is 4-B for being able to take on Twilight Xemnas, who absorbed the power of an incomplete Kingdom Hearts, which has the power to create hundreds of worlds with their own day-night cycles (read Solar Systems). He also scales to Keyblade Masters like Aqua, who clashed evenly with Vanitas while the latter was using the ¤ç-blade, which was the original Keyblade that acted as a vessel to use the sum total of Kingdom Hearts' power.
Erm. No.
Sora is 4-B for being able to take on Twilight Xemnas, who absorbed the power of an incomplete Kingdom Hearts, which has the power to create hundreds of worlds with their own day-night cycles (read Solar Systems). He also scales to Keyblade Masters like Aqua, who clashed evenly with Vanitas while the latter was using the ¤ç-blade, which was the original Keyblade that acted as a vessel to use the sum total of Kingdom Hearts' power.
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Well, that certainly evens out any AP difference there may have been.
Ok, Saturday summons a well of Nothing and blasts Sora in the face with it. Or simply wishes for Sora to die.
@Kinky how long did it take for him to break out?
Ok, Saturday summons a well of Nothing and blasts Sora in the face with it. Or simply wishes for Sora to die.
@Kinky how long did it take for him to break out?
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Nothing required people to be/become 2-A before they became completely immune to it's effects.
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Ok, Nothing is the primordial Void from before creation that lies below the House (the epicentre of Creation, which refers to both time and space), normally appearing as an oily liquid or dark fog. Everything comes from Nothing, and everything will return to Nothing. Those who have the power can manipulate it to create or destroy whatever they wish.
It's not always as powerful, for example in Grim Tuesday's Domain (The Far Reaches) the rain had been infused with Nothing, which basically just made it highly acidic.
There are a few things which are slightly more resistant to Nothing than normal in the verse, normally due to being strengthened with powerful magic, or having multiple layers to be dissolved (which isn't so much a resistance feat, as it's simply slowing the effects by having there be more for it to get through).
However even those things couldn't stand up to pure Nothing hitting them in the face, or being drenched in it. A wave of Nothing completely destroyed the Lower House and Far Reaches in the 6th book, and was just rushing through it annihilating everything in its path. Only the Old and New Architects could survive in the Void, and they were 2-A. The Piper also somehow managed to "survive", but no explanation is given, so he's just weird like that. Saturday threw the Piper into the Void btw.
Anything that is not resistant to Nothing starts getting dissolved, and converted into more Nothing, so it also spreads.
There are also certain weapons that can be created from Nothing, such as the Piper's dagger, which causes the stabbee to dissolve into Nothing within a few seconds. Nithling scratches and bites will also infect the victim with Nothing, causing them to dissolve, though not as quickly as Piper's dagger.
It's not always as powerful, for example in Grim Tuesday's Domain (The Far Reaches) the rain had been infused with Nothing, which basically just made it highly acidic.
There are a few things which are slightly more resistant to Nothing than normal in the verse, normally due to being strengthened with powerful magic, or having multiple layers to be dissolved (which isn't so much a resistance feat, as it's simply slowing the effects by having there be more for it to get through).
However even those things couldn't stand up to pure Nothing hitting them in the face, or being drenched in it. A wave of Nothing completely destroyed the Lower House and Far Reaches in the 6th book, and was just rushing through it annihilating everything in its path. Only the Old and New Architects could survive in the Void, and they were 2-A. The Piper also somehow managed to "survive", but no explanation is given, so he's just weird like that. Saturday threw the Piper into the Void btw.
Anything that is not resistant to Nothing starts getting dissolved, and converted into more Nothing, so it also spreads.
There are also certain weapons that can be created from Nothing, such as the Piper's dagger, which causes the stabbee to dissolve into Nothing within a few seconds. Nithling scratches and bites will also infect the victim with Nothing, causing them to dissolve, though not as quickly as Piper's dagger.
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Thats...actually pretty op.
Is this match even fair?
Is this match even fair?
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Yes it is.
Look at Sora's powers and abilities.
Look at Sora's powers and abilities.
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I will keep your vote counted.Monarch Laciel said:
Repp will come back eventually with a counter...maybe.
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Actually use it personally? No idea. But she did come up with the plot to destroy most of the House with Nothing just to stop some trees from growing.
Yeah, she doesn't resist time stop.
Yeah, she doesn't resist time stop.
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How fast is her time stop compared to Stopaga? And is this a composite Sora or from a specific game?
@KinkiestSins When you say death maniplulation are you referring to Doom or Heartless Angel?
@KinkiestSins When you say death maniplulation are you referring to Doom or Heartless Angel?
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He resisted doom, albeit this is him increasing his 'resistance' overtime.Hst master said:
Heartless Angels he resisted because game mechanics, nothing more.
I am not sure it would work on instant death tho... maybe once? But even then I be stretching it.
Although Once More and Second chance allows him to resist being ohked and revived himself, albeit at most twice.
I am assuming hers in instant, all of Soras magic has a cast time,
And composite Sora
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bumping, forgot I made this lul.
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