Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

[CBslayeR]

SSS Neo Metal Boss here
From what I see he has purple energy projections, blue forcefield and I think Chaos Spears?
SSS Super Neo Metal Boss here
Same as before but he can now make a stronger Energy Forcefield and all projectiles are golden

He also has a spirit sword which is metal as ****


Neo Metal also creates lightning in his idle animations, don't have a scan but I'll eventually work on it (I just suck ass at sandboxes)

 

[CBslayeR]

But ChaotixSoda is a great source for Speed Sim stuff as well, he basically covers every update.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Alright Sonic Scholars, here is an important question.

Counting only games from 2010-2019 aka 2010s, was Cubot the best new character introduced in 2010s?

 

[Snek]

Alright Sonic Scholars, here is an important question.

Counting only games from 2010-2019 aka 2010s, was Cubot the best new character introduced in 2010s?

No that would be orbot. I dont consider the sonic unleashed orbot to be the same character.

 

[Theuser789]

Alright Sonic Scholars, here is an important question.

Counting only games from 2010-2019 aka 2010s, was Cubot the best new character introduced in 2010s?

Infinite is better than him. I actually like him.

 

[Executor_N0]

空間に不思議な渦のようなものを作り出し、時空を超えた移動が可能。空中を飛行しながら移動し、その移動によって生じる時空のねじれによって、時間と空間、そして世界に宿るエネルギーや色をも消し去ってしまう。謎のバケモノ・タイムイーターの目的とは一体!?
Can create a mysterious vortex in space, allowing it to move across/beyond space-time. Moves flying through the air, and that movement produces a distortion in space-time, erasing the time, space, and also the color and energy in the world. What is the purpose of that mysterious monster, the Time Eater!?

In case it needs to be explained more, "超えた" is used literally as "beyond", but it shares the same reading as "越えた" which means "cross over". So, many Japanese people use them as the same thing and it's very common in fiction to use "時空を超えた" as merely meaning "to cross space-time". Well, White Space seems to be "beyond/outside" space-time, so it could be talking about it.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Can create a mysterious vortex in space, allowing it to move across space-time. Moves flying through the air, and that movement produces a distortion in space-time, erasing the time, space, and also the color and energy in the world.

I wonder if this is some sort of conceptual erasure type ability that the Time Eater, or I'm probably just overlooking things.

Nevertheless, this is nice confirmation that the Time Eater's ability to erase space and time wasn't retconned.

 

[Theuser789]

I wonder if this is some sort of conceptual erasure type ability that the Time Eater, or I'm probably just overlooking things.

Nevertheless, this is nice confirmation that the Time Eater's ability to erase space and time wasn't retconned.

I think it's a reference for him taking "dimensional energy" that is mentioned in the rewritte.

 

[ShrekAnakin]

Alright Sonic Scholars, here is an important question.

Counting only games from 2010-2019 aka 2010s, was Cubot the best new character introduced in 2010s?

I'm with User, it's Infinite. I've warmed up and appreciate Infinite more in hindsight.

 

[Oreo166]

Speaking of Infinite, what are y’all’s stances and takes on the promo statement of him being the strongest Sonic villain by that point?

 

[RedReaper616]

You fools...the answer is OBVIOUSLY CLASSIC EGGMAN.

(You see, the joke is that the unofficial Separation of "Classic" and "Modern" became an in-universe thing, meaning despite being the same character, he is also technically a newly introduced character. Checkmate, Sonic-Theists!)

 

[McFriesGuy075]

Speaking of Infinite, what are y’all’s stances and takes on the promo statement of him being the strongest Sonic villain by that point?

That would make the base cast scale to uncountable/possibly Infinite Low 1-C by the time of Forces. Because Void.

 

[LukeChaosBlobz]

I made a small sandbox here for any Sonic Speed Simulator additions (lacks a lot of scans though), anyone is free to add any stuff they find.

 

[CBslayeR]

I made a small sandbox here for any Sonic Speed Simulator additions (lacks a lot of scans though), anyone is free to add any stuff they find.

I'll add some stuff

 

[Oreo166]

That would make the base cast scale to uncountable/possibly Infinite Low 1-C by the time of Forces. Because Void.

Do you buy that statement tho or nah?

 

[McFriesGuy075]

Do you buy that statement tho or nah?

I mean... anything can change, somebody is planning tier 1 base cast stuff in the future.

 

[LukeChaosBlobz]

I'll add some stuff

Thanks man

 

[CBslayeR]

What ability would the magnet stuff be considered? Also how should we treat gamepasses in general, cause that can effect how many pets they can hold at a time or if they have passive magnetism.

 

[TMaakkonen]

I dont hate Infinite, in fact, his massive inferiority complex would be neat story potential ngl. Its just that by apparently being consumed by Phantom Ruby he is basically confirmed to never appear again so... eh.

Also if the leaked Forces story scripts are true, Infinite's story is kinda sorta half-assed since they rewrote his original intention entirely.

 

[CBslayeR]

I'm not sure how to insert links onto tabbers, also should I list the chemical plant resistances characters have from being in the zone? Chemical Plant is a level in it.

 

[Theuser789]

I dont hate Infinite, in fact, his massive inferiority complex would be neat story potential ngl. Its just that by apparently being consumed by Phantom Ruby he is basically confirmed to never appear again so... eh.

Also if the leaked Forces story scripts are true, Infinite's story is kinda sorta half-assed since they rewrote his original intention entirely.

I mean, he showed up in Otherworld Comedy.

 

[TMaakkonen]

I mean, he showed up in Otherworld Comedy.

And was gone after that too. Unfortunate.

 

[LukeChaosBlobz]

I'm not sure how to insert links onto tabbers, also should I list the chemical plant resistances characters have from being in the zone? Chemical Plant is a level in it.

Yeah, also is that Eggman boss still in the game? Since he can freeze people and the victim can break out.

 

[CBslayeR]

I'll leave y'all to figure out the implications of Eggman's Rebirth Wave here

To me this seems like a Low 2-C feat since it apparently wiped out the ******* timeline lmfaooo

 

[CBslayeR]

Yeah, also is that Eggman boss still in the game? Since he can freeze people and the victim can break out.

Yeah, I'm writing that down


Imo we include pre reborn stuff as well since it canonically happened and the characters still remember them

 

[LukeChaosBlobz]

Also Non-Physical Interaction from Pumpkin Ghosts in Pumpkin Hill

 

[ShakeResounding]

I'm with User, it's [X]. I've warmed up and appreciate [X] more in hindsight.

Sonic fans in a nutshell

(... me too)

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Eggman has those random ****** pink crystals he trapped Amy with somehow

 

[Theuser789]

I'll leave y'all to figure out the implications of Eggman's Rebirth Wave here

To me this seems like a Low 2-C feat since it apparently wiped out the ******* timeline lmfaooo

Holy shit. Eggman can just wipe out and reset all of Bowser's stats and items with this? Holy damn.

 

[LukeChaosBlobz]

Why is the Roblox game giving everyone busted ass stuff

 

[CBslayeR]

Holy shit. Eggman can just wipe out and reset all of Bowser's stats and items with this? Holy damn.

he has an item in Mario RPG that prevents this sadly, funny ass wincon though

 

[Theuser789]

he has an item in Mario RPG that prevents this sadly, funny ass wincon though

Prevents him and his entire army from being rebooted? But you're right about it being universal, Tails says the entire universe was rebirthed.

 

[CBslayeR]

Prevents him and his entire army from being rebooted? But you're right about it being universal, Tails says the entire universe was rebirthed.

It won't prevent his army, but his own stats will be fine, also yeah I knew I was right.

Now the question comes down to if anyone scales since it's a reset and not destruction outright

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I dont hate Infinite, in fact, his massive inferiority complex would be neat story potential ngl. Its just that by apparently being consumed by Phantom Ruby he is basically confirmed to never appear again so... eh.

Also if the leaked Forces story scripts are true, Infinite's story is kinda sorta half-assed since they rewrote his original intention entirely.

Should've been (imo):

*Infinite being Zero the Jackal from the get go (pre-PR).
*The OC being to Zero what Tails is to Sonic.
*Shadow having a bigger role in the story and possible conflict between Shadow and the OC.
*Doubling down on the PR being powered by the users psychological state in contrast to the CE being powered by emotional state.
*NO CLASSIC SONIC!!!

I know it's not "officially" confirmed but I've always believed unrealized concepts and ideas for the Force's story went into Whisper's character including my above musing (Based on an OC design, a master of using different wisps, lost everyone close to her in the war, had issues with Shadow, was member of a mercenary squad, etc). It fits all to well tbh.

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Sanic. Just... Sanic

 

[CBslayeR]

Idk how to add more tabs but we need a dedicated one for Pets for sure, damage boost from chao and the speed buffs from the sanic trail are pretty cool


plus the ring collection stuff and further magnetism

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Should've been (imo):

*Infinite being Zero the Jackal from the get go (pre-PR).
*The OC being to Zero what Tails is to Sonic.
*Shadow having a bigger role in the story and possible conflict between Shadow and the OC.
*Doubling down on the PR being powered by the users psychological state in contrast to the CE being powered by emotional state.
*NO CLASSIC SONIC!!!

I know it's not "officially" confirmed but I've always believed unrealized concepts and ideas for the Force's story went into Whisper's character including my above musing (Based on an OC design, a master of using different wisps, lost everyone close to her in the war, had issues with Shadow, was member of a mercenary squad, etc). It fits all to well tbh.

*The OC being to Zero what Tails is to Sonic.

Have you seen that one Forces rewrite fanfic on Youtube?

 

[Theuser789]

It won't prevent his army, but his own stats will be fine, also yeah I knew I was right.

Now the question comes down to if anyone scales since it's a reset and not destruction outright

Base characters are already universal, so we can just use it as a supporting low 2-C feat plus a hax feat.

 

[Theuser789]

Idk how to add more tabs but we need a dedicated one for Pets for sure, damage boost from chao and the speed buffs from the sanic trail are pretty cool


plus the ring collection stuff and further magnetism

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[CBslayeR]

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Thanks, now I gotta figure out what the **** fast friends qualify as hax wise, they combine 150% of your pets best stats


Also what hax is being able to collect millions of rings off a single one