Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

[Peptocoptr27]

Here, if I'm not mistaken

Oh, I had actually seen this one, but I didn't expect it to have such huge implications. The scaling chain confuses me now lol

Edit: Nevermind. I get it now. Time for base Sonic characters to body some out-dated downayed DC herald profiles

 

[Peptocoptr27]

But wait. If merely having a single Chaos Emerald is enough to boost a user that much more than 2×, how come Sonic and co were still able to keep up with Shadow when he had 6 of them in his self titled game?

 

[BlastX]

I don't think so? Usually when he has 6 it's at the end of the game, he either beats Eggman strongest mech at the time, Sonic alongside Diablon or Black Doom, or in the canon ending they're taken away from him and they paralyzed by the gas.

 

[omegabronic]

But wait. If merely having a single Chaos Emerald is enough to boost a user that much more than 2×, how come Sonic and co were still able to keep up with Shadow when he had 6 of them in his self titled game?

HMmmm, may look into this later

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Input would be appreciated

 

[Theuser789]

But wait. If merely having a single Chaos Emerald is enough to boost a user that much more than 2×, how come Sonic and co were still able to keep up with Shadow when he had 6 of them in his self titled game?

It's simple. They weren't.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

It's simple. They weren't.

Bro you feel like omni-man here:

 

[Peptocoptr27]

It's simple. They weren't.

We currently accept that the likes of Vector scale to the Egg Dealer due to his assistance in the fight. If the Egg Dealer scales to Shadow with 6 emeralds, then the scaling is ******. Sonic may have been teaming up with Diablon, but he could still keep up with Shadow 1 to 1 to some degree, being able to clash homing attacks without taking damage.

 

[omegabronic]

We currently accept that the likes of Vector scale to the Egg Dealer due to his assistance in the fight. If the Egg Dealer scales to Shadow with 6 emeralds, then the scaling is ******. Sonic may have been teaming up with Diablon, but he could still keep up with Shadow 1 to 1 to some degree, being able to clash homing attacks without taking damage.

That is assuming that Shadow is harnessing the emeralds' durinf those fights. Besides, what stops them from just being that strong? At worst we ignore it and dub it as an outlier for them

 

[Theuser789]

We currently accept that the likes of Vector scale to the Egg Dealer due to his assistance in the fight. If the Egg Dealer scales to Shadow with 6 emeralds, then the scaling is ******. Sonic may have been teaming up with Diablon, but he could still keep up with Shadow 1 to 1 to some degree, being able to clash homing attacks without taking damage.

Vector scaling to the Egg Dealer shouldn't be canon because he isn't there in the cutscene (but he does fighting base Black Doom). But even so, fighting someone with help doesn't make them the same strength, especially when they lose anyways.

 

[Peptocoptr27]

Vector scaling to the Egg Dealer shouldn't be canon because he isn't there in the cutscene (but he does fighting base Black Doom). But even so, fighting someone with help doesn't make them the same strength, especially when they lose anyways.

But we know that Vector and Rouge can damage Black Doom and that Omega can damage the Egg Dealer. Not to mention the Sonic/Diablon boss fight already brought up. All of that is grounds for scaling.

That is assuming that Shadow is harnessing the emeralds' durinf those fights. Besides, what stops them from just being that strong? At worst we ignore it and dub it as an outlier for them

Is that not the assumption we usually make when it comes to emerald wielders? What stops them from being that strong is the fact that they're comparable to Shadow without any emeralds in the same game.

 

[omegabronic]

But we know that Vector and Rouge can damage Black Doom and that Omega can damage the Egg Dealer. Not to mention the Sonic/Diablon boss fight already brought up. All of that is grounds for scaling.


Is that not the assumption we usually make when it comes to emerald wielders? What stops them from being that strong is the fact that they're comparable to Shadow without any emeralds in the same game.

Yeah, then it is an outlier since they are comparable to Shadow without any emeralds, it is that simple

 

[Theuser789]

But we know that Vector and Rouge can damage Black Doom and that Omega can damage the Egg Dealer. Not to mention the Sonic/Diablon boss fight already brought up. All of that is grounds for scaling.

They can scale, but that doesn't mean they are in the same strentgh. Does the multipliers put Shadow at a higher tier?

 

[Fireld]

Or just possessing an emerald doesn't mean everyone automatically gets a AP boost all the time. Shadow/Silver were comperable to Sonic in Generations who had several emeralds with him. Everyone in Fighters is relative to each no matter how many emeralds they have. Rouge had emeralds in Rivals 2 & the other s were still comperable to her etc...

 

[JJSliderman]

Yeah, I think unless the character is specifically absorbing the energy from the Emeralds (like Chaos was), they’re probably just holding them.

 

[Peptocoptr27]

Or just possessing an emerald doesn't mean everyone automatically gets a AP boost all the time. Shadow/Silver were comperable to Sonic in Generations who had several emeralds with him. Everyone in Fighters is relative to each no matter how many emeralds they have. Rouge had emeralds in Rivals 2 & the other s were still comperable to her etc...

In Fighters, the emeralds the characters are holding is accounted for in the current scaling though

 

[Peptocoptr27]

They can scale, but that doesn't mean they are in the same strentgh. Does the multipliers put Shadow at a higher tier?

According to the accepted thread, they should make give him 6 multipliers of at least 2×

 

[omegabronic]

According to the accepted thread, they should make give him 6 multipliers of at least 2×

Again, what stops them scaling to an amped Shadow to be an outlier?

 

[BlastX]

It doesn't matter because it's just for that particular instance so it's an outlier for the other characters anyways

 

[Peptocoptr27]

It doesn't matter because it's just for that particular instance so it's an outlier for the other characters anyways

Fireld pointed out multiple other instances

 

[ShakeResounding]

Oh yeah, putting it out there as a heads-up.

I plan to downgrade the Classic Era to 5-A eventually due to that Chaos Emerald multiplier thread (which will be far more kino Tiering anyways imo)

 

[Alexander]

Oh yeah, putting it out there as a heads-up.

I plan to downgrade the Classic Era to 5-A eventually due to that Chaos Emerald multiplier thread (which will be far more kino Tiering anyways imo)

ok

 

[Alexander]

Just to ask, in case the dimensional system did not exist and was changed by a transfinite system (which means that beyond multiversal, the megaversal and omniversal exist, which is a collection of multiverses and megaverses) at what level would Sonic be?

 

[ShakeResounding]

Talk about a pointless question

 

[Alexander]

Talk about a pointless question

well everyone question in here is meaningless to humanity culture and evolution anyway

 

[BlastX]

Oh yeah, putting it out there as a heads-up.

I plan to downgrade the Classic Era to 5-A eventually due to that Chaos Emerald multiplier thread (which will be far more kino Tiering anyways imo)

Unbased

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

well everyone question in here is meaningless to humanity culture and evolution anyway

Nah, you guys are important to me

 

[Alexander]

Nah, you guys are important to me

ok

 

[ShakeResounding]

well everyone question in here is meaningless to humanity culture and evolution anyway

Incorrect because I say so, dweeb

How are your personal hobbies relevant to those that you mentioned anyhow? How are you benefitting humanity and culture?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

ok

Idk man, this would refute the High 1-A Scaling

 

[Alexander]

Incorrect because I say so, dweeb

How are your personal hobbies relevant to those that you mentioned anyhow? How are you benefitting humanity and culture?

you know what, i knew it sounded stupid to say that and forget all the thousends of years of people not beneffiting humanity...yeah it is stupid to say that