Skill Wars: The Skill Strikes Back

[BakiHanma18]

Continued from here

Combat applicable skills only

Based on impressive skill feats and scaling from them. Experience statements & connceptual feats won't be accepted

One per verse

Major candidates are

1. Edelweiss (Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry)/Ikki Kurogane

2. Sasaki Kojirou (Record of Ragnarok)/Yujiro Hanma/Fugil Arcadia/Taskmaster/Saber (Musashi Miyamoto)

3. Nanami Yasuri/Shichika Yasuri

4. Mori Ji/Jax (League of Legends)/Rimuru Tempest (Light Novel)

5. Pray Mayer

6.Vash the Stampede

7.Garou

8. Future Warrior (Xenoverse 2)

9. Dracule Mihawk

10. Eldrad Ulthra

11. Karate Kid (Pre-Crisis)

12. Kenshiro (Hokuto no Ken)

13. Tommy Oliver

14. Leo (Armed With Wings)

15. Sun Wukong (Myth)

Protagonist (Mysteries of Baroque)

Xue Ying

Oryx, the Taken King

Kars (JORGE JOESTAR)

Phoenix Ikki

Twenty-Fifth Baam (Season 3)

Juuzou Shishimi

Han Jee-Ha

Nanami Yasuri

Nanashi (Shin Megami Tensei)

Darth Sidious

Master Oogway

Agent 47

SCP-076

Zekka

Vandre Schnee

 

[BakiHanma18]

Alright, we can continue here

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Me preparing for Cal and Earl's arrival

 

[Firephoenixearl]

To answer cal and Sir from the other thread.

@Cal

I meant in skill. When has throwing his shield ever been useful on someone even remotely as skilled as ikki?

@Sir

Well it depends really. Perfect Vision is just Blade Steal but used on people. Other than that though perfect vision is basically just very very good combat precog. So it falls under the:

If the user is unskilled it doesn't give him much of an edge.

If the user is very skilled (which ikki is), it gives him an edge like no other. It makes him MUCH stronger.

So it really just depends on where your skill level is without it.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Me preparing for Cal and Earl's arrival

>Implying i am not already here.

Quite bold of you to assume im not omnipresent in any thread where skill is mentioned

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Still waiting for Zekka and John Wick to be added somewhere on the list.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Quite bold of you to assume im not omnipresent in any thread where skill is mentioned

I too will always be here, but merely as a silent, enthusiastic watcher

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Still pondering the possible inclusion of Katanagatari characters

 

[BakiHanma18]

Still pondering the possible inclusion of Katanagatari characters

Hit me with some skill stuff homie

 

[First_Witch]

This will never end. I will just pat myself on the shoulders for getting Pray onto "Place 5" with barely 3 arcs of content.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

If this ends with a massive tie I will be the happiest debater this side of the Masadaverse

 

[Firephoenixearl]

This will never end. I will just pat myself on the shoulders for getting Pray onto "Place 5" with barely 3 arcs of content.

Place 5 is actually 10th place but ok

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

CH is yeeted so it needs to be removed I said this before, but the chosen one from animator vs animation doesn't deserve to be on here at all

 

[First_Witch]

Place 5 is actually 10th place but ok

I am fully aware of that, don't you see the quotation marks? But alright, keep kicking this old man while hes on the ground

 

[BakiHanma18]

CH is yeeted so it needs to be removed
I said this before, but the chosen one from animator vs animation doesn't deserve to be on here at all

I'll get that done in a bit

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I am fully aware of that, don't you see the quotation marks? But alright, keep kicking this old man while hes on the ground

Sorry it was so tempting. Had to do it. But don't cri let's go grab some coffee

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

So, The Player (Jump Force) can beat without being touched once and has mimicked the abillities (over a single spar with each) of: Kesnhiro, Goku, Trunks, Kenshin, Zoro, Sanji, Madara and Yusuke.

Should be pretty high up there in skill.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I mean none of the guys you mentioned are in the top 10, so im not sure.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I mean, Kenshiro is in 11, and beating them while unscarched plus having all of their skill at once should be able to get him in top 10, I think.

What does Karate Kid have beyond PIS and being better than any human for skills again?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Top 10 is actually up to 5th. But ok it could get him somewhere below garou maybe.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I mean, doesn't future warrior get their ranking due to having all the skills of goku and co.? Sure, Whis is more skilled than Goku, but with how much stronger he also is, I don't think it's that much beyond what the player does.

Pretty sure anything up to Garou isn't too incomparable. I don't know about Garou himself tough. The whole acopunture and power mimicry is something Kenshir himself can do, and people with the Sharingan aren't better off against the player, either. From what I remember Garou "only" copied and combined several martial arts (or fighting styles, like the doggo), and can redirect and hit back with a lot more power than what he was attacked with.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

You'll have too argue against the garou dogos.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Is defeating seven knights, one of which defeated the first six himself, with ease a good feat?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

On it's own it doesn't sound that good.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

The good one is maybe twelve, and confident enough in swordplay to teach it.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I mean its good, it's just not quantifiable. If those 7 knights don't have any feats of their own then it's not something that is impressive by default.

I can beat 7 classmates. And a russian soldier can beat 7 other soldiers. And someone on this list can beat seven other members on this list.

The feat in all 3 examples above stays the same, but you can see the flaw in the logic of "can beat others" it depends on the quality of the people you beat. Beating others just means you scale overall above them, not that it's quantifiable if they don't have anything quantifiable.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Their skill is mostly tactical skill. Like the Owl who can trick her opponent to summoning one of his targets where he has the home field advantage.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Their skill is mostly tactical skill. Like the Owl who can trick her opponent to summoning one of his targets where he has the home field advantage.

Not a very impressive feat then.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Unfortunately, those six only appear in one season, and only fight twice each.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I guess Composite Human should be removed from the OP, as they have been deleted

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Its alright. And my only point is that simply prediction is prediction. It is more or less useless, and what actually matters is the degree to which you can employ the information of prediction in actual combat. Otherwise, we would need to discard all these little ***** and find some dude that predicted the entire behavior of nations for decades and centuries ahead in a single day or something.

Sasaki is so high in the first place because of how thorough his analysis is and the fact that he can use that information to overcome an utter stomp of a speed and power difference. That's the kinda shit that has worth to me.

In that sense, I kind of see Blade Steal as a way, way more impressive feat for Ikki than Perfect Vision.


Just gonna paste this in again, I guess

@Earl And I know, yet is not nearly as super formidable even in close combat as everything you say about Ikki's skills and his techniques would make us believe. But that's just to,me.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

"Otherwise, we would need to discard all these little ***** and find some dude that predicted the entire behavior of nations for decades and centuries ahead in a single day or something."

So...Black Zetsu/Kaguya for number one ovo

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Obviously, so sad only Cal realized this is a stealthy take down so Naruto can reign supreme

 

[BakiHanma18]

Gotta remember to take down CH and Animator dude, as well as add JF Player

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Still think this thread should've been called Skill Wars: the Skill Haxxes Back

 

[Ionliosite]

The best hax of these characters is their skill.

 

[XDragnoir]

What is needed to be in the top 3?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

At least one or multiple of these things:

(1) Be A Sword Saint

(2) Transcend human (or another given species/class of being if the character isn't human) limitation in a verse that already has a bunch of absurd skill bullshit going on

(3) Have your name be Sasaki Kojiro

(4) Have Earl Supporting you

(5) Have bullshit enough skill feats that you basically need to form cognitive dissonance or be on drugs to accept them as anything close to reasonable, but still have to be not so bullshit that it gets dismissed as conceptual

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Desperately hope this thread won't dissolve into salt

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Oh, just to be clear, I'm saying this as someone who supports multiple characters on the level of the top 3. I'm saying this to poke fun at ourselves, not anyone in particular

Also, let's be real. I would say it is more impressive at how well Earl debates the skill of his characters. I'm not saying they are wrong to he here (I think they are absurdly skilled), but I think no one would disagree that they wouldnt be on the list without the strong supporter that is Earl to rep them