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This is actually very simple: K3 (and Pantheon) profiles are really neglected. Like they still had the old reasonning for the tier (before the already old one), and most importantly: some don't even have their own laws as a power (or even have someone's else law). This thread is here to start correcting this. Will also include some others characters.
Just to be clear: this thread isn't truly meant to add new powers or remove something by debunking any sort of notion. It's only to point out things in a "We acknowledge this, why isn't this put correctly in P&A?" way. This is also why this thread will just point out where we acknowledge this already and not use a shit tons of scans (if it's not precised, it means it's on the profile of the concerned character).
Obviously, others ones will come to be.
Some should likely get Weapon Mastery too, like Sukuna with his ridiculous guns.
She should also get Intangibility for the same reason she has Fire and Lightning Manipulation.
She can also boost her soldiers, and grant them resistances, which should be included on her profile (something we acknowledge on Ryuumei's profile).
Should have Creation and Summoning based on her ability to make Shikigamis.
I guess her Fire Manipulation comes from "Shinka Seimei Kyukunuritsuryu"? It should be Explosion Manipulation more than a fire one.
We don't have things like "Snow Manipulation", but Suiisei――Akuseitaisan should give Empathic Manipulation for forcibly calming someone's mind.
Her Distortion should be Fate Manipulation and not just Reality Warping.
She should get the abilities her Taiji give her even in her base, which are: Fate Manipulation, Causality Manipulation and Probability Manipulation
She should at least get the ability of reincarnating others listed, whatever that is (Soul Manipulation?). She's able to reincarnate even Reinhard and The Tumor through this.
Fusionism, for fusing different attacks with his Distorsion.
Energy Projection thanks to his heirloom's cannon form.
As a God, he litteraly only have "Gudo Gods physiology". First thing is that he should have two keys: one for when he is Hadou (during K3), and one for when he is Gudo (post K3).
As a Hado he should get Healing from Shokou Mandala - Yaoyorozu. Also there's a problem with it being qualified as "Tumor's law", because Tumor's Mandala is the 畸形曼荼羅 (Kikei Mandala) and not the 曙光曼荼羅 (Shokou Mandala), which is born from Habaki and Rindou own Taiji. Shokou Mandala is kinda the replacement of that.
Amaterasu Suwasumeragi Omikami is a bit more arguable I guess It's a bit similar to Marie's law.
Even if it just gives Soul Manipulation or Law Manipulation, it should be worth adding it and mentionning how it works. The fact that it'll keep adding more Afterlife to suit people needs could be seen as some form of Reactive Evolution.
As a Gudo... there's really little to nothing. The key could nearly get nuked.
Same issues as Habaki regarding it, since they share the same law.
Idk what Azumiya would qualify as.
Now for his Gudo God self; first dude should have two keys: One for his "I want to kill all desire" and one his psychopomp one. Idk how to name them tho. Post-Ryuusui resurrection?
For his first one, he should get Death Manipulation, Life Manipulation, Space Manipulation (depending of how you interpret crushing the sky) and Resurrection.
Second one would have things he has in base + and whatever it qualify as. I mean, guiding souls is Soul Manipulation but idk for granting the Afterlife one's wants.
She also misses a lot of things for her Gudou God key.
First is her fist producing infinite heat with Dharani Kujakuou, obvious heat manipulation.
Statistics Amplification via Dharani Rāgarāja, which converts her lust into power.
And she misses her law itself; which is Probability Manipulation.
Like he didn't nullify anyone's power, he bypass their defense with "the causality of self-destruction". It should be Durability Negation and Causality Manipulation, since the targets aren't like becoming human for a moment or anything (like you could try hitting them with another attack at the same time, but only the bullets would work).
Also Power Bestowal through Solipsism Mandala should be added. It isn't really the same as Legion, since it doesn't give you godhood; so Hado God Physiology isn't enough to cover it.
Also maybe explain EE in P&A? Because we don't even talk about his main thing as of now.
While I know that they are not as known as others, we still have informations about them and they deserve to be mentionned.
Also her law is Amaterasu Suwasumeragi Omikami, not the Dawning Mandala. Those are two separate things, although she should have both. Just copy/paste and change things a bit (like saying how she inherited the law from Habaki/Rindou and all)
Just to be clear: this thread isn't truly meant to add new powers or remove something by debunking any sort of notion. It's only to point out things in a "We acknowledge this, why isn't this put correctly in P&A?" way. This is also why this thread will just point out where we acknowledge this already and not use a shit tons of scans (if it's not precised, it means it's on the profile of the concerned character).
Obviously, others ones will come to be.
Gods in general
Only some have "Standard Hado/Gudo God weaknesses", they should all gain that.Tenmas in general
Their "blessed" should also be accompanied by a "limited Invulnerability" or something like that, with the Time Armor being the reason. After all we do give it to them. Yato should also obviously have it because it is like, his thing.Some should likely get Weapon Mastery too, like Sukuna with his ridiculous guns.
Tenma Morei
Why does she have the law of Sukuna as a part of her P&A? And it's not like her flames have this effect, the same exact words are used for the Power Nullification on the two profiles. Nuke this.She should also get Intangibility for the same reason she has Fire and Lightning Manipulation.
Tenma Tokoyo
She should have Illusion Manipulation, since she can summon hallucinations.Tenma Momoji
Nearly every Gods have their Craving as part of their Notable Attacks/Techniques on their profile. Her "I want to love my dead children/children who have died" (死んでしまった子供達を愛してあげたい) / Mugen Tôkatsujigoku should be no different.She can also boost her soldiers, and grant them resistances, which should be included on her profile (something we acknowledge on Ryuumei's profile).
Ryummei Mikado
Reishin should include healing based on the description we have.Should have Creation and Summoning based on her ability to make Shikigamis.
Keishirou Kyougetsu
This guy should definitely get keys, since he only got his second distorsion after losing the first one. Idk what name one would give it tho, maybe something like "Pre Numahime encounter" and "Post Numahime encounter"? Or "First Distorsion"/"Second Distorsion".Ryuusui Mikado
Should have Telepathy + Healing via Reishin, just like Ryummei.I guess her Fire Manipulation comes from "Shinka Seimei Kyukunuritsuryu"? It should be Explosion Manipulation more than a fire one.
We don't have things like "Snow Manipulation", but Suiisei――Akuseitaisan should give Empathic Manipulation for forcibly calming someone's mind.
Her Distortion should be Fate Manipulation and not just Reality Warping.
She should get the abilities her Taiji give her even in her base, which are: Fate Manipulation, Causality Manipulation and Probability Manipulation
Marie
Lack her law in her P&A, although I understand that it doesn't fall under a lot of manipulations.She should at least get the ability of reincarnating others listed, whatever that is (Soul Manipulation?). She's able to reincarnate even Reinhard and The Tumor through this.
Habaki Sakagami
He should have a simple "Weapon Mastery" instead of just being considered a "Master Swordman". Swordmen aren't really good with cannon, scythe and scissors.Fusionism, for fusing different attacks with his Distorsion.
Energy Projection thanks to his heirloom's cannon form.
As a God, he litteraly only have "Gudo Gods physiology". First thing is that he should have two keys: one for when he is Hadou (during K3), and one for when he is Gudo (post K3).
As a Hado he should get Healing from Shokou Mandala - Yaoyorozu. Also there's a problem with it being qualified as "Tumor's law", because Tumor's Mandala is the 畸形曼荼羅 (Kikei Mandala) and not the 曙光曼荼羅 (Shokou Mandala), which is born from Habaki and Rindou own Taiji. Shokou Mandala is kinda the replacement of that.
Amaterasu Suwasumeragi Omikami is a bit more arguable I guess It's a bit similar to Marie's law.
Even if it just gives Soul Manipulation or Law Manipulation, it should be worth adding it and mentionning how it works. The fact that it'll keep adding more Afterlife to suit people needs could be seen as some form of Reactive Evolution.
As a Gudo... there's really little to nothing. The key could nearly get nuked.
Rindou Koga
She doesn't even have her law in her Notable Attacks/Techniques section despite Habaki having it in his. It can litteraly just be copy/pasted.Same issues as Habaki regarding it, since they share the same law.
Yakou Madara
He should have Sealing, because of being able to seal distorsions with... his sealing techniques.Idk what Azumiya would qualify as.
Now for his Gudo God self; first dude should have two keys: One for his "I want to kill all desire" and one his psychopomp one. Idk how to name them tho. Post-Ryuusui resurrection?
For his first one, he should get Death Manipulation, Life Manipulation, Space Manipulation (depending of how you interpret crushing the sky) and Resurrection.
Second one would have things he has in base + and whatever it qualify as. I mean, guiding souls is Soul Manipulation but idk for granting the Afterlife one's wants.
Shiori Kujou
Her Distortion being merely labelled as "Reality Warping" is awfully lazy and kinda wrong in its own way. It's Summoning + Permutation (limited Teleportation?).She also misses a lot of things for her Gudou God key.
First is her fist producing infinite heat with Dharani Kujakuou, obvious heat manipulation.
Statistics Amplification via Dharani Rāgarāja, which converts her lust into power.
And she misses her law itself; which is Probability Manipulation.
Shirou Yusa
I'm not sure if his version of Malignant Tumor Apothethis qualify as true Power Nullification.Like he didn't nullify anyone's power, he bypass their defense with "the causality of self-destruction". It should be Durability Negation and Causality Manipulation, since the targets aren't like becoming human for a moment or anything (like you could try hitting them with another attack at the same time, but only the bullets would work).
Hajun
Give him Tengan and everything Yakou has from his first law, since they come from him.Also Power Bestowal through Solipsism Mandala should be added. It isn't really the same as Legion, since it doesn't give you godhood; so Hado God Physiology isn't enough to cover it.
Also maybe explain EE in P&A? Because we don't even talk about his main thing as of now.
Mithra, Muzan, and Satanael
Give 'em their law.While I know that they are not as known as others, we still have informations about them and they deserve to be mentionned.
Amaterasu
We accept her as the Tumor's reincarnation already, so it should be changed.Also her law is Amaterasu Suwasumeragi Omikami, not the Dawning Mandala. Those are two separate things, although she should have both. Just copy/paste and change things a bit (like saying how she inherited the law from Habaki/Rindou and all)
