Preferably tell us here when you are done.
Thank you for helping out.Sure
Okay. That is probably fine to apply then.
This is new to me, and extremely interesting to look into. Not suggesting any upgrade or anything yet, but what chances are that this can be better than 3-A? The series does outright specify the GS's realm as a higher dimension and that it can't be normally accessed.
I think the higher dimension stuff was initially used by the person who made the thread to give Hao type 9 immorality.Maybe "At least 3-A, possibly Low 2-C" then? However, without further clarifications regarding if higher dimensions are infinitely superior to lower ones in this verse, it seems unreliable to me.
I personally think we could discuss it, but it could be discussed in a different thread somewhere else since we at least came to 3-A as the conclusion.Okay. 3-A seems safest for now though, unless there is additional evidence for Low 2-C.
Trying to find now but RAWS for the series are extremely hard to come by. Might resort to buying the volume raw but that’ll also take awhile. Maybe go with what’s accepted for now.id like to wait on updating anything till RIZEXX can check the two necessary raws. The supernova one would make all the calcs useless if it means "consume" literally. Would mean the characters tanked a galaxy busting explosion.
can we give him a day or 2 at least
You can read this mini scan thread I posted on Imgur here.so apparently shaman king marcos ( a sequel as well) elaborates on the dimensions in the verse. time to read
I don’t entirely agree with some points in your interpretation of this:Hey so I began rereading the manga again in my spare time and I THINK I have something that may suggest 4-D for Hao / The Shaman King / The Great Spirit.
You can read this mini scan thread I posted on Imgur here.
Basically (I think Cyber may have already mentioned this a bit here before but ill explain it in more detail), in Shaman King, souls can form worlds called communes that are formed from their memories of how they lived before death, with their being countless communes (supported by Yoh saying at an earlier point in the series that the Great Spirit has countless souls that are infinitely connected) inside of the Great Spirit.
One can do things such as controlling their own fate (Fate Manipulation for Hao btw?) and even travel through time inside these planes of existence. Now onto why this could be an upgrade, since these communes confirm time travel is possible, it would imply they are timelines (since they are directly based off of the real world too), which could bump Hao and the Great Spirit up quite a bit.
As far as the MWI aspect of this goes for my comment, I did only say that its a nod from Joco's master, and not something too too explicit in that regard, but since a soul's memory or beliefs can create worlds based off those memories and beliefs inside the GS, it would in some effect be replicating the MWI.I don’t entirely agree with some points in your interpretation of this:
The other possibilities here aren’t random events of the many worlds interpretation, but other possible beliefs, which in the GS control the world/commune you can go to.
Saying they can choose their own fate doesn’t seem to be literal fate manipulation, but that they can choose which commune they’ll end up, and how that commune develops, and therefore how their life will go forwards.
Id be good with this honestly.The time travel is definitely the big part imo. I could see the scan either meaning that they literally travel through time within the commune or that they can travel to communes set in/emulating different times (such as the Indio commune which is emulating the ancient past, or the commune Hana visits in Flowers that is permanently in WWII). I think this would be good for a possibly 2-B rating (and the countless communes in the GS would make its 3-A rating much higher than baseline)
Okay so the run down is that I may have something better than 3-A for Hao to be rated by instead if it checks out. Here are the details.Can somebody summarise the current relevant arguments and information into a single post, so I can ask for staff help with evaluating it?
Considering the very first commune Jaco found himself inside after dying was a place he thought was hell, id say that strongly implies this also falls under that as well.There’s this thing from Anna where she claims there’s a 137 hells though I’m certain it’s mentioned everyone gets there own afterlife based off memories and soul. Regardless wouldn’t all these hells and afterlife’s exist also within the great spirit
Well from what the scans themselves gave, here are the details:ehhhhh
is there enough proof each commune is low 2-c?
@Ultima_Reality @Agnaa @Ovy7 @Ionliosite @First_Witch @Elizhaa @KingPin0422Okay so the run down is that I may have something better than 3-A for Hao to be rated by instead if it checks out. Here are the details.
In Shaman King, souls can form worlds called communes that are formed from their beliefs and memories of how they lived before death. These said worlds exist inside of the Great Spirit itself, and there are at least countless amounts of these communes inside of the Great Spirit. The number of worlds being vast is supported by Yoh once saying that the Great Spirit has countless souls that are infinitely connected inside of itself.
These communes are also implied to be their own timelines since:
-They're directly based off of the real world
-Time travel is confirmed possible to perform inside of these worlds
You can read this mini scan thread I posted on Imgur here.
If this checks out, this would put 2-B as a possibility for Hao, the Great Spirit and whoever would scale.
Yeah SK's manga is continued in sequels and such (thankfully!)Been a while (a really long while), since I've tackled anything about Shaman King. I don't remember those scans in the original manga, so I guess they are from the sequels (which I haven't read), but what it's in there and what Kukui says seems to make sense IMO, so maybe 2-B could be a possibility.