Separate characters from The King of Fighters from their original verses.

[Mariogoods]

As the title says because KOF continuity should be better treated as an independent continuity. Luckily, it does not need deletion of profiles since the current profiles which has the issue are all based on feats from The King of Fighters. All we need currently is to move the relative profiles. For example:

• Geese Howard
• Billy Kane
• Ryuji Yamazaki
• 
  
• Athena Asamiya
• Sie Kensou
• Bao

Along with other KOF characters which are crossover characters.
All above page should be renamed as "XXX (King of Fighters)".

Update: Maybe a bigger revision to add references and abilities of KOF characters would come one day.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

I mean, all the characters that originated in other games and not KOF first should have a profile from their original series and KOF version obviously a different profile from that

 

[SamanPatou]

It's already in my plans, I'll get to it... at some point.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

It's already in my plans, I'll get to it... at some point.

The other bosses will return from the dead till you get to it

 

[Mariogoods]

I mean, all the characters that originated in other games and not KOF first should have a profile from their original series and KOF version obviously a different profile from that

Luckily, what we do currently is just moving pages since their profiles are all adopted KOF scaling.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Notify some staff on this too

 

[Mariogoods]

Notify some staff on this too

I think so.

Also bump.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

You told them to come here?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I can help contacting the staffs to come here
Also Saman, are you going to touch Samurai Showdown as well?

 

[BlackDarkness679]

He said he is busy with MK currently

 

[LordGriffin1000]

If the continuity is different they I don't have an issue with separating them.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Yeah, seems fine to separate them.

 

[Antvasima]

@CrimsonStarFallen @Dragonmasterxyz @Tonygameman @Zencha9 @SamanPatou @The_Element_Kirbies @N-nani @CrackerVolley @Bobsican

Would you be willing to help out here please?

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Its not much to help here, just to green lit profile separation for different versions

 

[Zencha9]

Fine with separating them though im sure they follow the same canon multiverse though im rusty when it comes to the continuity

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Afaik Geese is dead in fatal fury canon, in kof that aint considered anymore so that he can be alive and exist even today, as one difference coming up

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I am personally fine with separating continuities that do not fit with each other at all.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I'm fine with waiting for Saman. And I agree that original characters being separated from their Cameos in King of Fighters is reasonable. Whether it be characters from Metal Slug, Ikari Warriors, ect.

 

[SamanPatou]

This isn't something you do on a whim, it requires quite a lot of work, so I can just ask to wait, if I'm to do it (which I'd love).

 

[Zencha9]

This isn't something you do on a whim, it requires quite a lot of work, so I can just ask to wait, if I'm to do it (which I'd love).

Then i guess making such a big move is quite a bad idea since let's be honest no one is really knowledgeable in the verse and since it's quite massive and can possibly be linked to alot of other properties

 

[SamanPatou]

I mean, I will do it at some point, without knowledge and material one wouldn't even know how to make their files.

 

[Mariogoods]

This isn't something you do on a whim, it requires quite a lot of work, so I can just ask to wait, if I'm to do it (which I'd love).

I have checked some of these page and found that they are mostly based on KoF.

 

[SamanPatou]

I know, that's why finding stats, abilities and general info on their og series takes time and work.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Let alone a crossover of all of them to be revised too

 

[Tonygameman]

Well, Saman (once he finishes up with other fighting games) and I have been waiting for this day, so of course I'm going to follow and agree with this whole thing.

For starters, I requested some feats from Fatal Fury & Art of Fighting to be calculated long months ago (which was recently bumped for those missing out). Maybe that'll get us ready.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that this thread has been accepted, but we should wait for Saman (and Tony?) to get the time to handle it, then.

 

[Armorchompy]

Well, Saman (once he finishes up with other fighting games) and I have been waiting for this day, so of course I'm going to follow and agree with this whole thing.

For starters, I requested some feats from Fatal Fury & Art of Fighting to be calculated long months ago (which was recently bumped for those missing out). Maybe that'll get us ready.

@SamanPatou do you think these feats would be useful or is there better stuff you know of off the top of your head? If former I can knock them out quickly (Also who do they scale to? Because the ice one and fall ones are gonna be way lower than the other two, with others gameplay thing I'd assume they'd scale to most)

 

[CrackerVolley]

Honestly what makes such a revision even weirder is the Maximum Impact games. Like if Fatal Fury/Art of Fighting is "No Orochi, Geese Dies" and King of Fighters is "Yes Orochi, Geese Lives", then Max Impact is "Yes Orochi, Geese Dies".

 

[BlackDarkness679]

MI is its own thing like neo geo stuff where an Orochi clone exists

 

[CrackerVolley]

Really? I thought of it more as a pure spin-off of the KoF timeline.

 

[Mariogoods]

@SamanPatou do you think these feats would be useful or is there better stuff you know of off the top of your head? If former I can knock them out quickly (Also who do they scale to? Because the ice one and fall ones are gonna be way lower than the other two, with others gameplay thing I'd assume they'd scale to most)

At the very worst, it would be useful as supporting calculations.

 

[SamanPatou]

@SamanPatou do you think these feats would be useful or is there better stuff you know of off the top of your head? If former I can knock them out quickly (Also who do they scale to? Because the ice one and fall ones are gonna be way lower than the other two, with others gameplay thing I'd assume they'd scale to most)

I don't know any better feats, while I can't speak about scaling, but I guess that the last wall scales to everyone because of it being a gameplay element.

 

[Armorchompy]

Fatal Fury - Destruction Feat

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[CrackerVolley]

I just want to make sure that we are not deleting profiles, just making new profiles for alternate continuities, right?

 

[SamanPatou]

Yes

 

[BlackDarkness679]

No one was gonna delete anything

 

[Antvasima]

Fatal Fury - Destruction Feat

vsbattles.fandom.com

@Psychomaster35 @CloverDragon03 @AbaddonTheDisappointment @Migue79

Would any of you be willing to evaluate this and then tell us here please?

 

[Migue79]

Done.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out. The above calculation can probably be used then.

 

[SamanPatou]

I started doing research, I can't tell when it'll be done (I'm quite busy irl, much more than before, and I have yet to finish working on another verse), but it's being processed.