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Antvasima

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Please report any rule violations in this thread. Notifying us of such incidents is highly appreciated.

Additionally, kindly report any sockpuppets that you come across.

Only report violations regarding the wiki rules. False reports due to personal vendettas are unacceptable.

Also, this thread should be for reporting actual rule-breaking, not every single little disagreement.

In cases of extreme vandalism or trolling, you can report the accounts at the VSTF wiki.

If blocked members create sockpuppet accounts to circumvent their block repetitively, or several are created at almost the same time, you may contact the Fandom Staff, to politely request permanent range IP blocks.

You can also find specific users with the Search Function by typing with the format: "User:Username"

Here is a useful page for discovering sockpuppet accounts: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Log/newusers

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All staff members, kindly follow and bookmark this thread.

Remember to inform members via their message walls if that you have reported them here, in case they have performed severe enough rule-violations to risk being blocked. However, this should only be used in uncertain cases, not if they have done something instantly ban worthy, or if their offenses are minor.

It is against the Fandom rules to upload any offensive images to the wiki, so in order to show screencapture evidence of extremely bad behaviour, you must use external sites, such as Gyazo or Imgur, in order to not get globally banned yourself by the higher-ups:

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Do not derail the Rule Violation Threads with irrelevant nonsense or internal disputes. It is solely for making serious, warranted reports of violations of the Site, Discussio, and Editing Rules, and not for discussion or side comments. Such posts should preferably be removed by the staff, and if a member continues to derail after being repeatedly told to stop, this will result in a temporary ban.

Given the extreme levels of systematic harrassment towards this community, kindly remember to not share/post any evidence of malware or child abuse publicly in order to prevent unwillful distribution. Submit any evidence of child abuse and severe systematic threats to the police.

If something goes outside the jurisdiction of the VS Battles wiki bureaucrats, or even the global Fandom staff, you need to report it personally to the authorities.

Also, absolutely do not click on any random links from suspicious users. You could potentially access content that contains dangerous malware or illegal types of pornography, alternately tracks your IP address and location. If you are uncertain, please use this page to verify that the links are not dangerous.

However, do not feed the trolls by discussing their behaviour here, as they get excited and motivated by any form of attention. Strictly report them to the staff, who then block them and mass-delete their contributions.

If there are genuine serious problems with the behaviour of certain staff members, do not cause drama by extensively arguing about it here, but rather contact the Human Resources Group.
 

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Continued from here: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/4081350
 

The_Calaca

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Just for the record, I'm also against lowering JCN's ban.

He's another user who never listens when he's being called out for his behavior and claim he'll behave after the final consequence has been applied. It's another user who thinks he can laugh at us by lying in our faces to come back and replicate the very same action over and over.
 
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Plus, the fact that he said that he was not trolling but having "reasons" means that he was legitimately with people deserving death threats, that just make it worse for his case.

He stays banned.
 

The_Calaca

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And not to mention, death threats are a definitive reason for a ban.

He has caused troubles in the past. But this is simply unacceptable.
 
Yeah, keep him banned,

If it was simple trolling I would have been more lenient but giving death threats is an auto permaban.

AND the fact he said some bad language to wokistan for his apology
 

Super_Saiyan_God_Julian

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The user, ZaStando27, has approached me wishing to be unbanned.

It appears that, at one point, he got banned for some reason and he believes he has changed for the better and wants to come back.

Do you guys believe he should be unbanned?
 

DarkDragonMedeus

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Yeah, the ZaStando topic has been extremely brought up numerous times, and constantly bringing it up to the RVR thread really isn't going to solve anything. Lots of people have been heavily annoyed by it; but no offence to him though.
 
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Can we please stop entertaining ZaStando's requests of coming back? He already had his chance to improve after his first ban, he didn't which led to him being permabanned. Also judging by his actions after the ban, it should definitely stay that way.
 

Antvasima

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Not globally, given that he can still send messages via other wikis.
 

Antvasima

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That was a vulgar troll profile, not a joke profile. We should probably ban him.
 

AKM sama

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I hadn't checked the content of that profile until now, but after seeing it I'm convinced they're a troll.
 

DarkDragonMedeus

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Well, that's nothing offensive in itself, but it might be best of someone who speaks their language if known communicates with them. Unless there aren't any available, then I don't know.
 

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https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/4139571?useskin=oasis#86

S.K clearly doesn't understand English, to the point that he doesn't seem to understand what either side is saying.

He's not mean spirited per say (Although he does tell Viper that he should stop being wrong it's not hilarious anymore which is kinda rude) but it's just a massive nuissa cr to deal with on a long running CRT
 

Zaratthustra

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Guess a light warning for him could work since he didn't seem to truly say anything offensive beyond what he said in the Thor vs Goku thread which can be.
 
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Ah, I can't give a screenshot right now, but Big Brain Chat said that he joined because his friend from twitter (UltimaShadowX) told him to do so...

He is right now in the chat.
 

Super_Saiyan_God_Julian

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Okay then. His messages could still be interpreted as racially charged, so I will probably warn him about those.
 

DarkDragonMedeus

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So what should we do for Big Brain Chat, just monitor him for now? Or Block him? If he's friends with "UltimaShadowX" and claims he made an account, that that's still super suspicious.
 
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Okay someone needs to to step into chat ASAP. Madotsuki is being accused by a bunch of people including an admin of the Death Battle Fanon wiki of hate speech against Jews and black people and the situation is escalating. I have asked them to report her here but they seem content to accuse away only. I can't immediately tell if they are telling the truth so need staff there now.
 
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TacticalNuke002 said:
Okay someone needs to to step into chat ASAP. Madotsuki is being accused by a bunch of people including an admin of the Death Battle Fanon wiki of hate speech against Jews and black people and the situation is escalating. I have asked them to report her here but they seem content to accuse away only. I can't immediately tell if they are telling the truth so need staff there now.
woah that is no good, you got links?
 
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Yeah, they edited it to make it look like I said that, which I didn't. They have done this to me on multiple websites, a YouTube live stream being the most recent apart from this. Notice how most of the people accusing me have either 0 messages or very little messages? That indicates that it's almost always most likely trolls that try to harass people in order to make them upset. Don't listen to them please, they are not telling the truth.
 
i actually had to eat so i couldnt report

regardless, these are not photoshop. if you do not believe these, i can invite you to the server where this takes place so you can confirm
 

DarkGrath

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I've been a good friend of Madotsuki for quite some time. I'm not going to massively comment on this issue one way or the other, since I can't definitively verify the legitimacy of those pictures and my previous experience with her probably distorts my view on things.

Even so, I'm personally extraordinarily doubtful the second picture shown is legitimate, or if it is, it was almost certainly intended only as a joke. Madot, while sometimes being quite defensive and aggressive at that, has never once in any chat I've had with her shown any serious negative opinions towards any marginalised groups, and this is very heavily against her usual demeanour. Not to mention that, as has been the problem many times in the past with reports based off of off-site messages, the entire context is cropped out with no messages except hers on screen.

Again, won't comment too much on this matter for the reasons above. Even so, I find it very hard to consider the second image legitimate.
 
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That's not a death threat, I told him what he contributes to the world and what he does to help out because what he is doing is clearly not helping anyone.
 
you're basically saying he should die

and again, various others can confirm she said this in the live chat

tho if a mod would like a invite to the server where she said those racist things, im willing to give one
 
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She definetly said it, albeit admitetly out sheer anger, as everyone (Including myself, not gonnal lie here) started accusing her non-stop.
 
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I would prefer not to bring up something like the second statement without any additional context. It is, quite honestly, entirely dishonest to bring up things like that without it. I know I've said some really stupid stuff that sounds horrible out of context just chatting with people casually and being dumb, because as far as I am aware that's rather normal.

As for the other ones, those have more weight. Whatever the problem, telling that to someone directly, if it was made in a completely serious way, does merit some action.
 
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After receiving an invite I can confirm that those Discord screenshots are not photoshopped.

I don't have a way to verify that it is actually Madotsuki on Discord, however.
 

DarkGrath

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Are you referring to the Platelet Loli account? Again, I do want to know the context behind these screenshots before any rash moves are made. But I can confirm that Platelet Loli is one of the Discord accounts owned by Madotsuki.
 

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Various users with no posting history such as Hyperstar56 and HughMann33 did come into chat and confronted her with screenshots instead of taking it directly here, links were left here which most of them promptly ignored.

Even if there was legitimate concern about things she had said they weren't doing themselves favors by just antagonizing her about it in chat.

It certainly could have been handled better from either side of the argument.
 
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Yes, the Platelet Loli account did say that. No surrounding context had it being egged on (she started it herself, with one other person sorta agreeing at first, but with most others being against it)
 

Super_Saiyan_God_Julian

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Although I do agree it could have been handled better by the opposing party, I am afraid that the evidence seems to be mounting against Madot for now.
 
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/645389014756753409/690789414905053184/unknown.png

One of the rules:

Actions that lead to the destabilization of the site (such as videos, forum posts, Discord chats, etc. that create drama), whether or not it was systematic. Threatening someone off-site, be it a threat of violence, hacking, doxxing, sexual harassment, etc. Harassment of users in their immediate surrounding (ex. Someone constantly messaging you with insulting comments via DMs or PMs) Engaging in online criminal activity (Not including piracy). Impersonating someone for malicious purposes.
 
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I believe that the best course of action would be to have a moderator join the discord server temporarily and see the context for themselves.
 
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Okay, I remember that indicent with the whole Platelet Loli account... As DarkGrath said, the comment I made was absolutely 100% a joke. It's one of my coping mechanisms when if I am suffering for example with people harassing me, I try to cope by humour. I have a very satirical sense of humour and because of that, I do admit that could have come off as me being a racist which I am definitely not. There have even been those people who accuse me that black people rape people, which Idk where they got that from, I wish I screenshotted that so I could have shown you, so I'm sorry for that... You know, black people are no more likely to rape people than any other race. Anyone can rape people and race has got nothing to do with it.
 
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Just for context, Phantom's quoting the rules for off-site behaviour from the Site Rules page.

I can confirm that the stuff in that screenshot was said by Platelet Loli, and there wasn't surrounding context justifying/enabling it.

People were talking about banning her from that server, she said that and made similar comments repeatedly, and people responded disapprovingly.
 

Mr._Bambu

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Regarding Mado.

This isn't the first or even second time comments of pretty much this exact nature has come from her. At the time, I disregarded it as a singular event of internet rage. If we know the account is owned by Mado, I see no reason to leave her unbanned. We have screenshots from our own chat, Discord, and previous cases on the wiki proper.

I move for a three month ban for now.
 

Super_Saiyan_God_Julian

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I would appreciate if any of you could invite me to the discord group, just to make sure.
 
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On whether this behaviour should actually be banned...

I'm not sure, it treads the line in a way that I'm not super gung-ho about banning or unbanning for, so even though I can confirm that those screenshots are legit, consider me neutral on whether to actually ban or not.
 
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No, this wasn't me intending to be offensive, this is just how I have coped with things and it is the only thing that I've known. Please don't ban me, I don't think that it's justified...
 

Mr._Bambu

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That's fair Agnaa. I think it comes down to a situation where warnings clearly have not worked, and we need to question if this is the type of user that should be on the site. If picking fights is ostensibly this common for them, I don't see a point in just handing out warnings. I accept your point of view, though.
 

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Madotsuki24 said:
No, this wasn't me intending to be offensive, this is just how I have coped with things and it is the only thing that I've known. Please don't ban me, I don't think that it's justified...
Mado, I mean no offense but I do not accept that as the truth, speaking as a person who has this same experience with you. Even if this is just a coping mechanism, it is destructive towards other users and is unacceptable.
 
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I had already said my piece before on the sort of behavior. If you are getting on that level, pull your fingers away from the keyboard and take a moment. Letting yourself be pulled over by the moment is not gonna work out.

I can agree for a ban, but not sure about the length of it.
 

Mr._Bambu

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I'd be fine with a shorter ban if needed, though I'd like to hear from a staff member or two.
 
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Another reason why I've been destructive lately is that I was sexually abused as a little girl for seven years and it made me feel so horrible and ashamed of myself that I didn't tell anyone or stand up for myself and defend against myself... It made me not want to make the same mistake again of letting myself get hurt again so my body built a defense mechanism to not let myself get hurt again by other people and get me to defend myself... It's a horrible coping mechanism, but it's the only thing that I have ever known, let alone to ever known to work...
 

DarkGrath

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I do want to stress that I don't believe Madot is a genuinely harmful person. There's no denying the authenticity of the screenshots, or the fact that her behaviour in the past has generally been quite erratic, destructive, and generally unacceptable towards other people. If that's enough on it's own to justify a temporary ban, so be it. I strongly believe, however, that Madot doesn't intend to harm anyone else, and knowing her, I do entirely accept the idea that these kinds of comments are just inappropriate jokes done for coping.
 

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If Julian, as a Disc Mod, agrees to a ban in this instance, I will carry it out. That would be sufficient consensus for me.
 

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I am afraid that, upon closer inspection of the Discord group, that the user "Plaletet Loli" has indeed made those comments, including the racist ones.
 
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DarkGrath said:
I do want to stress that I don't believe Madot is a genuinely harmful person. There's no denying the authenticity of the screenshots, or the fact that her behaviour in the past has generally been quite erratic, destructive, and generally unacceptable towards other people. If that's enough on it's own to justify a temporary ban, so be it. I strongly believe, however, that Madot doesn't intend to harm anyone else, and knowing her, I do entirely accept the idea that these kinds of comments are just inappropriate jokes done for coping.
Thank you so much...
 

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Super Saiyan God Julian said:
I am afraid that, upon closer inspection of the Discord group, that the user "Plaletet Loli" has indeed made those comments, including the racist ones.
And your opinion on a ban? And the duration thereof, if you do agree.
 
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Mado, I've said it before, your past circumstances have been terrible but that's what they are... past circumstances. You shouldn't use them as a wall to shield away responsability.

You know you can act better than this and that this stuff is a bad move, regardless of it getting you a ban on this site or not. Other people aren't at fault for what happened to you and shouldn't be held as targets for your bad behavior, you need to learn to cope with it in better ways.
 
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LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
Mado, I've said it before, your past circumstances have been terrible but that's what they are... past circumstances. You shouldn't use them as a wall to shield away responsability.
You know you can act better than this and that this stuff is a bad move, regardless of it getting you a ban on this site or not. Other people aren't at fault for what happened to you and shouldn't be held as targets for your bad behavior, you need to learn to cope with it in better ways.
You can't just wait some time and then your trauma magically goes away, that's not how it works. You don't know what it's like to be sexually abused, let alone suffer it when you're a little child. If you really knew how horrible it was to suffer from it, you would realise that time alone would not heal it.
 
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