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Rule Violations Reports - 59

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Continued from here: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3613455
 
@Rin

You have a point there, i'm not suggesting ban or another warning at all but rather it need to be looking for, and also Mindovin summaries better than me
 
While Malomtek does need to calm down, he was only doing so with good motives and was trying to teach the actual violators a lesson. While not everyone was overboard, several of them were really hostile. And he was trying to defend me and Matt. Still a lowclass method, but nothing ban worthy. And I already asked him not to go too far into it.

And he was provoked because people were attacking me and Matt.
 
Just noticed that there are even more people on the thread who derailed, insulted, attacked, etc before Malomtek even showed up. No need to single out one user. Several people on that thread would get a warning by that logic.

As far as the thread goes, the matter is okay now. You all need to go chill.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
While Malomtek does need to calm down, he was only doing so with good motives and was trying to teach the actual violators a lesso. Still a lowclass method, but nothing ban worthy. And I already asked him not to go too far into it.

And he was provoked because people were attacking me and Matt.
I don't want to clog up a fresh RVR thread, but are you serious?

A certain staff comes in with the very intention of getting people hostile, if not something similar, and the people who respond in justified anger are the violaters? This has to be a joke.

I will 100% agree that both sides were unnecessarily hostile, and in all reality Matt's comments should've just been ignored, but how are you gonna try to pin it on us as if we did something indescribably horrible? If somebody spits on you and you throw a punch, are you a mindless brute for doing so? Two wrongs don't make a right, but you're acting as of we were the only ones doing wrong.

Anyways, I've said my part. I apologize for the derailment.

Edit: Sorry Andy, I didn't mean to post after you.
 
Also, for the love of Gawd, people, grow a thicker skin. You're all for real insults and trash talking when it's on Discord and "just venting" but the second someone (namely Matt) calls out your crap you act like he's being hostile, despite the stuff being said there being objectively worse and far more insulting than "your argument sucks, mate".

Attacking someone's arguments is not hostile, it is not a personal attack on that person. Yes, Matt and Malom's first few comments weren't productive at all and they need to chill out for real, but at the same time you lot are acting like they called you homeless bums with no life or something.

I'm all for being polite and civil, and I'm against making unproductive comments (it's something even I need to work on sometimes), but Jebus Chris Unmighty, stop being so fragile. Most people that were "insulted" clearly overreacted.

Grow up, people of both sides.
 
That assessment strikes me as more than a little bit unfair, Sera.

You're telling me that Matthew gets to walk into a thread, intentionally coax people into calling him out in an attempt to prove some point and all he needs to do is "chill out for real"? Do you not see the irony of him "calling us out" about something that is only caused because of his actions? Worse still, when people go on Discord to vent to one another about their frustrations about this sort of behavior from him (which is a reoccurring issue with him and other members) you come here and try to use that as tool to say "the things you say are objectively worse", even though him acting this way on the wiki and people complaining about it to their friends off-site are not at all comparable situations.

Not only that, but saying stuff like: "you lot are acting like they called you homeless bums with no life or something." or trying to write off this reaction as "fragility" on our part is grossly misrepresenting the source of our frustration in regards to Matthew and trying to frame it as disproportional response, as if this was the first time anything like this little tantrum of his has ever happened and not the hundredth.

Also, I'd like to note that his comments were aimed at all, or at least many, of the Sonic supporters in the thread, and when people rightfully call him out for it, others take the opportunity to frame it as him "getting ganged up on", or several members responding to it "only proving him right", when that makes no sense if you're talking about someone who addressed several people at once with his unfair statements.

Furthermore, if you want to talk about fragility, I'd suggest you take a look at the fit DDM threw in regards to people saying bad poopoo words on Discord and likening it to actual murder.
 
I'm going to stop you right there, since you have a habit of running your mouth and just say that I clearly acknowledged what Matt did as unproductive and unnecessary, so there's nothing unfair about it. And no "grow a thicker skin" wasn't targeted specifically at Sonic supporters, but the site as a whole because there's even staff that act like the slightest critique of their character or argument is an insult when it isn't.
 
Sera does have a good point about that there are massive double standards at work when the same members who overreact to others somewhat rudely disagreeing with them, launch much more severe attacks towards them elsewhere, but this is not the right place to talk about it, and we should stop now.
 
Well, I hope things get resolved later. I supported the 2-B but there was so much back and forth and people bringing up things that were already talked about over and over, that I don't whether the whole thing was true, or even if it was false.
 
Ok my wifi cut that's great

Essentially, I think Supreme should get a strict warning for what he said on that last thread. Although he was provoked, he clearly went against the rules.

Considering giving Obscenly a warning too
 
Okay. Feel free to do so.
 
@Sera

I mean you no disrespect, but whatever habits you think I have are irrelevant to what I've said here.
The premise of your assessment being unfair is not based on whether or not you acknowledged Matthew's actions as unproductive. The point is that it is unfair in spite of that, for the myriad reasons I brought up, including but not limited to how much of slap on the wrist it came across in comparison to how you addressed what you perceive to be our misconduct.

So, when you said "(namely Matt)" and "Most people that were "insulted" clearly overreacted." Did that not include the Sonic supporters in specific? Because, and I may be missing some context here, I figured that bit of context was meant to indicate you were talking specifically about the whole fiasco with the blog.
If you really weren't addressing the 2-B thread I'll just retract what I've said, since it is what my criticism of your comment is based on.
 
I gave Obscenly a general warning since he was very frequent with slurs (the main one being the R-Word) and showing irrational hostility

With a name like that, is it any surprise that the person does that?
 
Both Obscenely and Supreme both look very suspicious. Their usernames aside, the hostility towards each other being great between the R words, or sexual harassment towards "Your Mother" related comments. Furthermore, I personally get vibes that Supreme has Saitama as his avatar in combination with his hostility. Not going to jump the gun and say it's Jonathan since I heard he decided to move on with his life, but it could be someone impersonating him; which is just as suspicious.
 
Thank you for helping out.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
Both Obscenely and Supreme both look very suspicious. Their usernames aside, the hostility towards each other being great between the R words, or sexual harassment towards "Your Mother" related comments. Furthermore, I personally get vibes that Supreme has Saitama as his avatar in combination with his hostility. Not going to jump the gun and say it's Jonathan since I heard he decided to move on with his life, but it could be someone impersonating him; which is just as suspicious.
So what should we do about these members?
 
Zark already gave them the warnings, so I think we can just wait for now. If they continue to act up, we could block them. But I think they're fine for now.
 
Okay. Thank you for the help.
 
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