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Rule Violation Reports - 47

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Reporting user RegisNex1232 for his behavior on this thread, particularly near the end but throughout its whole length he's shown similar behavior. Reason?

Refusal to concede to any opposite argument, no matter if the person shows evidence in the form of scans or quotes, continuous usage of ad-hominen accusations always dismissing those who disagree with him as ignorant whilst presenting his opinion as fact, accusing those who disagree of him of trolling or of disagreeing purely out of spite.

The thread literally reached 500 posts and nothing was accomplished because it's an endless back and forth with Regis refusing to ever concede or see opposing evidence.
 
Now Matthew has begun to escalate things to locking threads and deleting posta, while refusing to address any of his behaviour in that same thread perfectly described by his description of me. How is this acceptable at all?
 
WeeklyBattles said:
He's done the exact same thing on the two League of Legends speed revision threads

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2690833

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2790239
I didn't see all of the two threads, but recently he was making decent points (a race that varies wildly with shape/size/function shouldn't automatically scale to each other). Maybe he did something worse earlier but recently he wasn't really "refusing to concede no matter the evidence", you two just have different opinions on how lenient to be with scaling.
 
@Agnaa I implore you to look at the posts after that because everyone else agrees that his reasoning is wrong
 
While I agree Regis can be unreasonably stubborn regarding arguments he disagrees with to the point of it being ridiculous/wasting peoples time who do actually try to reply to him. Is he really breaking any rules?
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Agnaa I implore you to look at the posts after that because everyone else agrees that his reasoning is wrong
I've been following the thread for a few days, it wasn't "everyone else agrees" that his reasoning is wrong. One other person agreed with his reasoning, and you and two other staff members disagreed with his reasoning. But even this matter isn't an objective issue of what the source-material says, it's how lenient you're willing to be with scaling. Since there's no official rule on how to treat cases like that there's no real way to make a good argument over it.

EDIT: But considering Regis has gotten "last warnings" multiple times and hasn't shaped up, perhaps a ban for a few days or a week is in order.
 
Matthew has been doing exactly what he's been accusing me off this entire time in the locked thread, yet no one is willing to call him out for it while being perfectly fine to jump on me for it. How is this not a ridiculous double standard?
 
@Regis Given that you were warned not even a month ago to better your behavior yet you havent even made an attempt to, a report for this reason is entirely justified
 
RegisNex1232 said:
Matthew has been doing exactly what he's been accusing me off this entire time in the locked thread, yet no one is willing to call him out for it while being perfectly fine to jump on me for it. How is this not a ridiculous double standard?
Maybe once he's been reported for it two dozens times people will start jumping on him for it the same way they jump on you.
 
Banning Regis for a week would accomplish absolutely nothing, and we'd be doing this same dance 7 days from now.

Around a month ago when Regis was last reported people were proposing timeframes of 2 weeks, 1 month, and 2 months at the longest. That was a month ago, and it led to him receiving his final warning. I don't see why he deserves to receive lenient treatement at all for this.
 
Reminding the thread of Ant's final warning for Regis from last thread

Antvasima said:
Regarding Regis, I personally think that Wokistan, Agnaa, Dargoo, The Wright Way, and Promestein make the most sense here.

Regis seems to have repeatedly engaged in stubborn and somewhat confrontational behaviour, but then so have two of the admins he has argued with, although probably to a lesser extent.

I can also relate to his feeling of being oppressed by an authoritarian society that severely punishes and silences any dissenting voices (regardless if they have all the statistical facts on their side), even though it is likely misplaced in this case.

It seems like a final strict warning is warranted, and if he continues we can apply a ban. However, it must be made clear to him that this really is his final warning, and he has to make an effort calm down and stop overreacting when things don't go his own way in the future.
This post got 22 kudos. 22 people agreed with him being banned if this behaviour continued.
 
Guys, we really don't to keep mass posting the RVR thread; that in itself is Rule Violation.

Anyway, Regis has gotten a last warning so he probably should get a short block, and he's blatantly accusing a staff of trolling just for a simple disagreement and has consistently derailed the RVR thread. But still, this isn't a chat thread and message walls would be better for stuff like that.
 
Seeing as Antvasima's post got 22 kudos and everyone mentioned there was fine in the last thread of him getting banned should his behavior continue, I'll administer it myself.

I feel that something along two months would be rigorous yet nevertheless merciful consider what he's done so many times.

If any Staff Members has objections, feel free to list them.
 
RegisNex1232 said:
I end up here because the admins reporting me do similar things to what I've been reported for and then report me later. They get to get away with it without a warning while I don't. This is hardly fair at all.
Similar is the important word. There's differences:

1. Less common.

2. Less severe.

3. Fewer warnings.

You're not getting banned because you didn't listen to a disagreement once, you're getting banned because your behaviour is consistently out of line. Sure, other staff members here have fed into that, but not as often and to not such an extreme extent. Which is why you're only getting banned now; if staff members did exactly what you did to the same severity they'd be getting demoted/banned.
 
The previous ban was going to be 2 weeks before Ant said that that would be Regis' final warning and the next is a ban.

Also, the threads he's been reported for don't seem report worthy. He's not agreeing with the opposing side, but he's not breaking rules by doing so and he's not the only one in agreement with his viewpoints and interpretation.

An immediate ban at this point seems too rushed without more opinions.
 
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