(Grace) Rematch: Simon the Digger (TTGL) VS Will of the Honkai (Honkai Impact)

[Mariogoods]

Since Simon' profile has changed greatly and caused many verdicts in previous thread invalid, here is the rematch.

Rule:
1. Simon is in his Post apotheosis key with the strongest mecha [and arguably the strongest key.] (High 1-C), while Will of the Honkai is High 1-C.
2. SBA.

Vote:
Simon the Digger: 0
Will of the Honkai: 0
Inconclusive: 7 (BluudyManikin777, Lapsad, GreatIskandar14045, Oleggator, Setsuna_tenma, N_Kardashev, Ned_the_outer_god)

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

Simon now has abstract level Non-Physical Interraction via interracting with thoughts, feelings, and emotions. Can he affect WotH?

 

[BluudyManikin777]

The Anti-Spiral is a type 1 abstract, and since Simon can affect The Anti-Spiral, Simon is capable of interacting with type 1 abstracts. Simon is now immeasurably above baseline now, so Simon takes this

 

[Mariogoods]

The Anti-Spiral is a type 1 abstract, and since Simon can affect The Anti-Spiral, Simon is capable of interacting with type 1 abstracts. Simon is now immeasurably above baseline now, so Simon takes this

Counted

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Honkai god can become a type 1 nonexistent so Simon can't interact with it.

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

Honkai god can become a type 1 nonexistent so Simon can't interact with it.

Does WotH start as type 1 non-existent? If no then this still goes for Simon unless WotH is completely aware for Simon's incapability to interract with nothing.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Does WotH start as type 1 non-existent? If no then this still goes for Simon unless WotH completely aware for Simon's incapability to interract with nothing.

Will of honkai is omniscient so it will know. It can also ressurect itself

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

Will of honkai is omniscient so it will know. It can also ressurect itself

Ah yes, I was fooled with that "Likely Omniscient" in the Power and Abilities section, also, can you point me out where the type 1 NEP comes from? I can't find it in his/her profile although it might be in another character profiles from the same verse since I heard he/she has all abilities in the verse.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

It is from sirin

 

[Lapsad]

First of all , keep in mind , Will of Honkai is platonic embodiemt due to he has embodied the anchor point , according to abstract existence page "being able to affect a subtype of a category does not mean a character can affect all types of abstraction."

Platonic concept are pinnacle of abstract does simon can touch him ?

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

First of all , keep in mind , Will of Honkai is platonic embodiemt due to he has embodied the anchor point , according to abstract existence page "being able to affect a subtype of a category does not mean a character can affect all types of abstraction."

Platonic concept are pinnacle of abstract does simon can touch him ?

no

 

[BluudyManikin777]

Actually, I change my mind to inconclusive. Simon can't touch WotH, but WotH doesn't exactly have the AP high enough to do anything to him

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Actually, I change my mind to inconclusive. Simon can't touch WotH, but WotH doesn't exactly have the AP high enough to do anything to him

what about corruption?

 

[BluudyManikin777]

what about corruption?

Simon can alter the probability of that working, as probability manipulation in the TTGL verse is passive

 

[Lapsad]

I have a feat to explain more , the anchor point can projected H1C universe , and the anchor themsleve having infinite in number , WOH take authority over them due to he can influnced to the ether anchor which formed all anchor point , should this mean WOH have somthing infinite baseline ?

 

[BluudyManikin777]

I have a feat to explain more , the anchor point can projected H1C universe , and the anchor themsleve having infinite in number , WOH take authority over them due to he can influnced to the ether anchor which formed all anchor point , should this mean WOH have somthing infinite baseline ?

Regardless, Immeasurably above baseline is way higher than Infinitely above baseline

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

I have a feat to explain more , the anchor point can projected H1C universe , and the anchor themsleve having infinite in number , WOH take authority over them due to he can influnced to the ether anchor which formed all anchor point , should this mean WOH have somthing infinite baseline ?

If there is an infinite number of 11D universes then yeah, although I'm definitely not the best guy to answer this.

 

[Lapsad]

Amyway take it inconclusive is a best obtion now.

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

voted Incon too.

 

[Oleggator]

Inconclusive FRA

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Incon

 

[Schnee_One]

Will of honkai is omniscient so it will know. It can also ressurect itself

Omniscience doesn’t work outside of your own verse, just saying.

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

Two more votes and we are done.

 

[BluudyManikin777]

Two more votes and we are done.

Holy shit moly, this is going faster than I thought

 

[N_Kardashev]

incon fra

 

[Oleggator]

One more vote

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

Incon, again

 

[Oleggator]

Grace

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

Finally