[R2M3] 1st Generals of Grove Tournament - Broly vs. Lucy (4-0-0)

[ExSENNA]

Welcome to the Second Match of the Second Round of the 1st Generals of Grove Tournament! (Bracket) (Event Leaderboard)

On the blue corner, we have Broly, submitted by @Diamond_Drone!
On the red corner, we have Lucy, submitted by @SSB64!
Duel 11, let's go!

Broly is 131 Tons. Lucy is 12 Tons. Broly has a 10x AP Advantage.
Broly has Class 10, Lucy has Class 5 LS. Broly has the LS Advantage.

Wrathful State Broly is used.
Anything above 8-A is restricted.
Speed is equalized.
Starting distance is 7 meters.

Broly:
Lucy:
Incon:

 

[MintyBoi1]

Broly runs over and punches Lucy once then she dies.

 

[Diamond_Drone]

Yeah it doesn't really matter if Lucy goes in close or tries to get out of range, Broly can just throw Ki Blasts or punches and she dies.

 

[SSB64]

Broly runs over and punches Lucy once then she dies.

People seem to forget that getting in close against Lucy is a horrible idea.

Lucy not only has the Bright Bulbs to blind Broly, but since Broly doesn't have any mention of resistance to Fire Manipulation or Heat Manipulation, Lucy's Flamethrower would logically be the first thing that kicks in on this fight, burning Broly to a crisp when he gets in close, and then she can just..... sidestep out of the way. On top of that, she's got the smoke that can poison him, and the aforementioned Bright Bulbs that can straight up blind him.

In other words, this entire fight solely depends on how Broly acts. Since I personally feel Broly, at this distance, and with his personality, would almost always try to get in close first, I'm inclined to give this an Incon with Lucy getting the edge.

 

[MintyBoi1]

Lucy not only has the Bright Bulbs to blind Broly, but since Broly doesn't have any mention of resistance to Fire Manipulation or Heat Manipulation, Lucy's Flamethrower would logically be the first thing that kicks in on this fight, burning Broly to a crisp when he gets in close, and then she can just..... sidestep out of the way. On top of that, she's got the smoke that can poison him, and the aforementioned Bright Bulbs that can straight up blind him.

In other words, this entire fight solely depends on how Broly acts. Since I personally feel Broly, at this distance, and with his personality, would almost always try to get in close first, I'm inclined to give this an Incon with Lucy getting the edge.

Broly can teleport and fly and also fire Danmaku Ki blasts. Lucy would need to get the chance to activate one of her abilities that could potentially kill him. Also Broly is a giant fueled by rage, I doubt Lucy is making good eye contact before he rips her head off like he did to The Hulk. And why couldn’t Broly just destroy her flamethrower? I think it’s being very unrealistic and frankly unfair to Broly to say Lucy has the better odds of winning with her lacking mobility and strength.

 

[Diamond_Drone]

Lucy not only has the Bright Bulbs to blind Broly, but since Broly doesn't have any mention of resistance to Fire Manipulation or Heat Manipulation, Lucy's Flamethrower would logically be the first thing that kicks in on this fight, burning Broly to a crisp when he gets in close

Fire is not something that just bypasses durability normally, there was an entire stomp matchup specifical meant to test this. Maybe if there were proper feats for it then I could buy it dealing damage to Broly, but that doesn't seem to be the case as far as I know.

Also how would she know she needs to use the flamethrower as the first thing?

 

[ExSENNA]

I vote Broly for far superior AP & Durability and mobility, and think it is stomp as well

 

[SSB64]

Broly can teleport and fly and also fire Danmaku Ki blasts. Lucy would need to get the chance to activate one of her abilities that could potentially kill him. Also Broly is a giant fueled by rage, I doubt Lucy is making good eye contact before he rips her head off like he did to The Hulk. And why couldn’t Broly just destroy her flamethrower?

He can, but that doesn't mean that he immediately would. And like I said, all he needs is to decide to go in close as his first move (Given he's went in close against a big giant brick house of an opponent before when Broly first met him, it's definitely a very likely possibility,) and Lucy's smoke and flamethrower combined can get the job done.

Sure, Lucy has lacking mobility, but that's mostly because she's a giant metal robot, that is a lot slower than her opponents in her world. Against someone straightforward like Broly, and the fact that speed is equal here, Lucy would be able to simply move out of the way, or use her Rocket Feet to jump out of the way too. Equal Speed turns Lucy into kind of a monster.

Even if Lucy can dodge just enough for Broly to still take off an arm, this might trigger her to use Overclock and utilize the Class K LS that comes from it to overwhelm Broly physically (She also spews out tons of steam and smoke during Overclock too, so the poisoning and burning on Broly would be even worse than normal.)

Also, funny you should mention her not being able to see Broly, because she doesn't even have genuine eyes. She just has a very accurate seismograph, and the flamethrower is built in too (So he can't simply take it from her.) She essentially reacts on a sort of primitive instinct to what her opponent does as a result, making her quite dangerous, especially in a speed equal scenario.

I think it’s being very unrealistic and frankly unfair to Broly to say Lucy has the better odds of winning with her lacking mobility and strength.

If a character wins due to their opponent's decision to attack, as well as their own capabilities, then I say it's fair game.

Fire is not something that just bypasses durability normally, there was an entire stomp matchup specifical meant to test this. Maybe if there were proper feats for it then I could buy it dealing damage to Broly, but that doesn't seem to be the case as far as I know.

Problem with the thread.

1: This assumes an absolutely massive gap between characters (5-B Vs 9-B, 3-A Vs 10-A, etc.) The gap here meanwhile, is ~x11. Not that massive, especially when.....

2: There actually is a measured temperature for the flamethrower Lucy (1,800°C), quite a lot hotter than things like building fires, magma, and napalm heat, as well as other IRL flamethrowers.

3: The thread itself you brought up was Incon. Neither side could come to a real conclusion on whether it could or couldn't bypass Durability.

Furthermore, this contradicts the previous match with Sonic, who was also a lot stronger in AP than Lucy, but was more skilled, and was a much smarter fighter than Broly. If it shouldn't work on Broly, then it shouldn't have worked on Sonic either, but yet, here we are.

I vote Broly for far superior AP & Durability and mobility, and think it is stomp as well

Sorry if I sound rude, but it's a bit disingenuous to vote while the other person is busy looking for arguments or forming their case. We had this exact problem with the Finals of the Duos Tourney, especially since this is going off of the basis that it's possible that Broly is going to act OOC, or that we're giving Broly resistances that aren't stated on his profile.

Also how would she know she needs to use the flamethrower as the first thing?

Since she's instinctive like a combat animal, if something is barreling towards her, she's going to go berserk with trying to slow it down or stop it entirely while throwing in a small dodge here or there such as burning, poisoning, and blinding.

 

[MintyBoi1]

He can, but that doesn't mean that he immediately would. And like I said, all he needs is to decide to go in close as his first move (Given he's went in close against a big giant brick house of an opponent before when Broly first met him, it's definitely a very likely possibility,) and Lucy's smoke and flamethrower combined can get the job done.

Sure, Lucy has lacking mobility, but that's mostly because she's a giant metal robot, that is a lot slower than her opponents in her world. Against someone straightforward like Broly, and the fact that speed is equal here, Lucy would be able to simply move out of the way, or use her Rocket Feet to jump out of the way too. Equal Speed turns Lucy into kind of a monster.

Even if Lucy can dodge just enough for Broly to still take off an arm, this might trigger her to use Overclock and utilize the Class K LS that comes from it to overwhelm Broly physically (She also spews out tons of steam and smoke during Overclock too, so the poisoning and burning on Broly would be even worse than normal.)

Also, funny you should mention her not being able to see Broly, because she doesn't even have genuine eyes. She just has a very accurate seismograph, and the flamethrower is built in too (So he can't simply take it from her.) She essentially reacts on a sort of primitive instinct to what her opponent does as a result, making her quite dangerous, especially in a speed equal scenario.


If a character wins due to their opponent's decision to attack, as well as their own capabilities, then I say it's fair game.

Furthermore, this contradicts the previous match with Sonic, who was also a lot stronger in AP than Lucy, but was more skilled, and was a much smarter fighter than Broly. If it shouldn't work on Broly, then it shouldn't have worked on Sonic either, but yet, here we are.


Sorry if I sound rude, but it's a bit disingenuous to vote while the other person is busy looking for arguments or forming their case. We had this exact problem with the Finals of the Duos Tourney, especially since this is going off of the basis that it's possible that Broly is going to act OOC, or that we're giving Broly resistances that aren't stated on his profile.


Since she's instinctive like a combat animal, if something is barreling towards her, she's going to go berserk with trying to slow it down or stop it entirely while throwing in a small dodge here or there such as burning, poisoning, and blinding.

Lucy also has to decide which ability to start with and I think the flamethrower is the only plausible case where she possibly wins. Though Diamond’s point makes that seem more difficult. And it comes out of her stomach which’ll be very easy to notice for Broly so he likely just tears it out and beats Lucy down.

Simply moving out the way won’t work when Broly can fly, throw ki blasts, and instantly appear in front of her meanwhile she can just amp speed and jump high. Plus even if she dodges she still has little to actually harm Broly.

The Class K is possibly and from what I can tell from Ex’s post, it’s not likely being used here. Also about the smoke, last match you said “The timeframe of lethality is unknown, but even in a short timespan, Sonic (Or Broly) should, at worst, be getting weaker after a short timeframe from inhaling it.” And this is assuming Broly even will breathe it in with Self-Sustenance.

So really the flamethrower is Lucy’s only chance and a minuscule one at that. I say just take the stomp.

The profile describes her light manipulation as using eyes, either way she won’t be able to blind Broly in time to make a difference. Also blinding would just make Broly angrier and more likely to blow everything up with Danmaku. Broly can’t just simply take the flamethrower from her, he can completely rip it apart with the AP and likely LS gap.

Lucy really can’t win here. All of her abilities take time to use which she won’t have.

You’re contradicting your own point about the smoke in the Sonic match. And we’re comparing a 1.66x difference to an almost 11x difference. It feels like you’re being disingenuous. Broly is decently skilled himself and Sonic’s not that great, he just kept up with and briefly immobilized Fox. But most of the fight he just blitzed or ran into everything Fox threw at him.

It’s because it’s very hard to find a win condition for Lucy and you’re the only the only one what disagrees with that. Votes can be cast while arguments are happening as well. And nobody is saying Broly acts OOC or resists heat. Simply that he’d charge Lucy, tear apart her defenses, and win since he’s so much stronger and more mobile.

 

[Diamond_Drone]

Even if Lucy can dodge just enough for Broly to still take off an arm, this might trigger her to use Overclock and utilize the Class K LS that comes from it to overwhelm Broly physically (She also spews out tons of steam and smoke during Overclock too, so the poisoning and burning on Broly would be even worse than normal.)

Lucy is capped at Class 5 according to the OP and also Salivas is stated to have the LS advantage in this thread, Broly is the one with the advantage in LS in this fight.

Problem with the thread.

1: This assumes an absolutely massive gap between characters (5-B Vs 9-B, 3-A Vs 10-A, etc.) The gap here meanwhile, is ~x11. Not that massive, especially when.....

2: There actually is a measured temperature for the flamethrower Lucy (1,800°C), quite a lot hotter than things like building fires, magma, and napalm heat, as well as other IRL flamethrowers.

3: The thread itself you brought up was Incon. Neither side could come to a real conclusion on whether it could or couldn't bypass Durability.

1. The gap between the characters were irrelevant since the point of the thread was to see if fire dura negs, also saying "11x is not that massive" when it's literally over twice the official one-shot range of 5x.
2. Alright fair, would've been useful if it was written next to the Fire Manipulation ability and her Temperature Resistance.
3. Also fair, personally I still lean on the side of "it doesn't dura neg" or "it's case-by-case based on character tiers". if Lucy's flamethrower scales to her 8-B tiering and not her lower ones (like 9-A or 8-C) I can see them allowing her to damage Broly to an extent.

Since she's instinctive like a combat animal, if something is barreling towards her, she's going to go berserk with trying to slow it down or stop it entirely while throwing in a small dodge here or there such as burning, poisoning, and blinding.

That doesn't guarantee she will use the flamethrower first, that just makes her strategy seem more random than reliable.

Yeah, with this and MintyBoi's comments, I think I'll stick with my vote.

 

[Volt12121]

Broly's arguments seems much more favorable, i'll vote him fra

 

[Rayfire]

I’ve skimmed through everything here, although think I should add that Lucy won’t really know about the significant AP disadvantage she’s at due to a lack of information analysis I can see on her profile, and also a lack of combat intelligence beyond average. If fire is her best option at dealing with broly then I doubt she’d think to use it if she has many other options. I don’t think it’s ever mentioned or implied that she can use all of this at once, especially when she has to open her stomach for fire.

I won’t vote just yet, although broly is definitely going to win the fight instantly if he lands just one hit. A 10x difference is no joke. It’s like comparing a regular person to a UFC fighter. The gap in power is huge…

 

[SSB64]

Lucy also has to decide which ability to start with and I think the flamethrower is the only plausible case where she possibly wins. Though Diamond’s point makes that seem more difficult. And it comes out of her stomach which’ll be very easy to notice for Broly so he likely just tears it out and beats Lucy down.

That's the thing. Think about the situation of the fight from the perspective of a simple combat program like Lucy's.....

- The fight starts at mid range, so the gun is out of the question.

- The opponent is in front of her, so no Napalm Orbs or Rocket Feet

- The opponent is rushing towards her, so the Tanker Pike wouldn't do much for her.

- The smoke and steam are passive and come with her other attacks. They can't exactly be chosen as options.

This leaves her with the Bright Bulbs and Flamethrower as the available weapons of choice, both of which would prove detrimental to Broly. If Lucy were to blind and burn him, she'd just need to dodge once, and then Broly would be wide open to being stunned and cooked alive.

The Class K is possibly and from what I can tell from Ex’s post, it’s not likely being used here.

It's used whenever she's in Overclock seeing as it's what's required for her body to not break apart from using it. So her ramming into Broly and grappling him would actually overpower his own pushing or grabbing

The gap between the characters were irrelevant since the point of the thread was to see if fire dura negs, also saying "11x is not that massive" when it's literally over twice the official one-shot range of 5x

The OHKO range is around x8 to x10, not x5. Where is it ever stated that it's x5? Not once have I seen that before.

The profile describes her light manipulation as using eyes, either way she won’t be able to blind Broly in time to make a difference. Also blinding would just make Broly angrier and more likely to blow everything up with Danmaku. Broly can’t just simply take the flamethrower from her, he can completely rip it apart with the AP and likely LS gap

IIRC, her eyes are stated in the story as being not real eyes, hence why she needed the seismograph. Her eyes are more akin to lightbulbs. If she did have actual functioning eyes, then it'd be even worse for Broly's case since she'd now have another way of actually seeing what Broly will do next.

As for Overclock..... Oh boy. I was saving this one for this moment when needed.

Okay. So Overclock is Lucy's most powerful ability that she possesses. It doubles the rate of her gun, and causes her to emit an insane amount of steam that now upgrades its lethality to cause third degree burns. However, the big one is that Lucy gains a speed boost. The reason why she's got low stats and few Hax is purely because of this ace she has up her mechanical sleeve. Granted, it does drain a huge amount of her limited battery, so she tends to use it in 15 second bursts unless her internals are screwed with in a way so as to remove that due to a broken part.

So, how big is this Overclock boost?

Well, it connects back with her Class K LS given that it was a result of me calculating her potential LS. See, to calculate it, I had to assume that her speed limit was Average Human Level (5m/s or so), and the ability is said to boost her to the speed of sound (343m/s).

Dividing the Overclock speed by her base speed would net the speed boost granted by Overclock to be x68.6. She might not have much, but she takes the name for the biggest stat amp (Even if it's pretty temporary and quite risky), in the entire Tourney.

 

[SSB64]

I don’t think it’s ever mentioned or implied that she can use all of this at once, especially when she has to open her stomach for fire.

That's only a problem due to Lucy being quite a bit slower than most other things in her world (Unfortunately, I didn't have any time to finish any of their profiles to further this point.)

 

[SSB64]

Okay. So judging by what I've seen, here's how the fight seems like it would go.....

Broly would begin by rushing at Lucy, who responds with her Flamethrower. Broly makes it through, albeit very injured, and decides that her flamethrower has got to go. So, he goes to grab her flamethrower, but doing so causes his hand to become ridiculously charred and nearly unusable, still, he succeeds, and gets the flamethrower out to disable it, but not before Lucy blinds him with the Bright Bulbs, causing him to become stunned for a few moments to process what is going on. Stopping the flamethrower doesn't actually stop the flames that are currently on him from consuming him alive. Furthermore, the damage sustained by Broly is enough for Lucy's "programming" to initiate Overclock Mode. Good timing too as Broly suddenly surrounds himself with Ki and proceeds to create a massive Ki explosion. Luckily, thanks to the speed boost combined with her instinctual behavior, Lucy would be capable of getting out of the way of this nuke before it hits her.

Now on his last breath, Broly realizes that Lucy is most beneficial at her ground game. As a result, he flies up into the air to fire Ki blasts. However, because Lucy isn't a living being, but rather, an automaton, his potential Ki Sensing wouldn't work here. As a result, without anyway to see Lucy, Broly would resort to randomly spamming them all over the local New York area, smashing through buildings, concrete, people, and vehicles. Lucy would use the shockwaves generated by the explosions to gauge an estimation as to where is out of Broly's relative vicinity. Broly, unable to keep up for much longer, collapses onto the ground from both fatal injures from the flames catching up to him, and his own Stamina wearing him out too. At this point, either Lucy would kill Broly if she can find him, or would leave Broly to die, or at least remain incapacitated. Lucy survives with a lost weapon, minor internal damage, and 35% of her water tank left.

 

[MintyBoi1]

Okay. So judging by what I've seen, here's how the fight seems like it would go.....

Broly would begin by rushing at Lucy, who responds with her Flamethrower. Broly makes it through, albeit very injured, and decides that her flamethrower has got to go. So, he goes to grab her flamethrower, but doing so causes his hand to become ridiculously charred and nearly unusable, still, he succeeds, and gets the flamethrower out to disable it, but not before Lucy blinds him with the Bright Bulbs, causing him to become stunned for a few moments to process what is going on. Stopping the flamethrower doesn't actually stop the flames that are currently on him from consuming him alive. Furthermore, the damage sustained by Broly is enough for Lucy's "programming" to initiate Overclock Mode. Good timing too as Broly suddenly surrounds himself with Ki and proceeds to create a massive Ki explosion. Luckily, thanks to the speed boost combined with her instinctual behavior, Lucy would be capable of getting out of the way of this nuke before it hits her.

Now on his last breath, Broly realizes that Lucy is most beneficial at her ground game. As a result, he flies up into the air to fire Ki blasts. However, because Lucy isn't a living being, but rather, an automaton, his potential Ki Sensing wouldn't work here. As a result, without anyway to see Lucy, Broly would resort to randomly spamming them all over the local New York area, smashing through buildings, concrete, people, and vehicles. Lucy would use the shockwaves generated by the explosions to gauge an estimation as to where is out of Broly's relative vicinity. Broly, unable to keep up for much longer, collapses onto the ground from both fatal injures from the flames catching up to him, and his own Stamina wearing him out too. At this point, either Lucy would kill Broly if she can find him, or would leave Broly to die, or at least remain incapacitated. Lucy survives with a lost weapon, minor internal damage, and 35% of her water tank left.

This is ignoring Broly’s planetary range, teleportation, and ability to immediately punch a hole through Lucy and her flamethrower. It being attached to her doesn’t help much. His aura is also stated to weaken and paralyze so Lucy wouldn’t be able to outrun him for long. And breath attack could also come into play there before Broly opts for touching the flamethrower.

Also I think that’s 4 Broly votes so we’re in grace.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Why does 8-A Broly have planetary range, wat? Also that teleportation just looks like speed, but what do I know?

But yeah, that scenario is heavily dependent on Broly not going for the head or just punching Lucy in the first exchange.

 

[Diamond_Drone]

The OHKO range is around x8 to x10, not x5. Where is it ever stated that it's x5? Not once have I seen that before.

Actually yeah you right, but the 5x originally came from here. Sorry for arguing with outdated information. Also you never said if the flamethrower scales to the 8-B thing.

It's used whenever she's in Overclock seeing as it's what's required for her body to not break apart from using it. So her ramming into Broly and grappling him would actually overpower his own pushing or grabbing

Then why is it a possibly rating? Those kinds of ratings can be restricted if specified by the OP, which is why Broly has the LS advantage right now.

Only Durability would be needed to avoid breaking apart, Lifting Strength is completely unnecessary in that process. Also isn't ramming into someone striking strength and not applicable for LS calcs?

 

[SSB64]

This is ignoring Broly’s planetary range, teleportation, and ability to immediately punch a hole through Lucy and her flamethrower.

1: Planetary range in what? Sensing? If it's sensing or teleportation, Broly wouldn't be able to do that if he gets hit with the Bright Bulbs. That, and punching doesn't exactly help since Broly's strength would punch through it as fast as he can rip it out of her.

His aura is also stated to weaken and paralyze so Lucy wouldn’t be able to outrun him for long. And breath attack could also come into play there before Broly opts for touching the flamethrower.

2: Weaken by how much? I doubt it's enough to completely nullify the effects of Overclock enough to where Broly can get the hit in he needs. Furthermore, from how far? Lucy after the nuking would likely be quite far away, and because Broly wouldn't be able to see or think clearly throughout any of this, the teleportation would lack any real use.

And breath attack could also come into play there before Broly opts for touching the flamethrower.

3: He wouldn't know about the flamethrower until he already gets in close. By which point, a breath attack would be the worse option since it requires a charge up time while he's being dealt the aforementioned statuses unlike getting rid of her flamethrower. Keep in mind too that the flamethrower he's dealing with is more than hot enough to melt through iron and steel.

 

[SSB64]

But yeah, that scenario is heavily dependent on Broly not going for the head or just punching Lucy in the first exchange.

Like I said, this fight's winner is pretty much unclear. After all, Broly could go for a move that nets him the win, or one where he gets cooked alive within the first ten seconds. At least for me, it's more likely for the second option to happen, but there's more ways for the first situation to occur.

 

[SSB64]

Actually yeah you right, but the 5x originally came from here. Sorry for arguing with outdated information. Also you never said if the flamethrower scales to the 8-B thing.

No problem. We all make mistakes, especially in the heat of debate.

Also, yeah. I didn't mention its energy in Joules or Tons of TNT. The thing is that I'm more focused on its high heat rather than its AP. I know that the thread was an exaggeration, but every example they gave was for ginormous gaps compared to the smaller gap of this exchange. They were even willing to admit that the fur of the 5-B character would get singed (The fur, by their logic, should also be close to 5-B on account of it surviving on their body in physical confrontations.

(Man. This is a really tough one to argue for, but I gotta stand my ground.)

 

[Diamond_Drone]

Planetary range in what? Sensing?

Range: Standard Melee Range physically; Planetary with Ki blasts and attacks (Can reach distances between planets)

Wait doesn't this mean he has interplanetary range?
Broly's Ki Blast, his most basic ranged attack, has a range of 72.8m in terms of blast radius. Lucy's flamethrower is only several meters.

But yeah, that scenario is heavily dependent on Broly not going for the head or just punching Lucy in the first exchange.

Tbh I think Broly going for the head is very likely. Broly is 3 meters tall and Lucy seems average human-sized, she'd be half his height and her head would be around where his arms are.

They were even willing to admit that the fur of the 5-B character would get singed (The fur, by their logic, should also be close to 5-B on account of it surviving on their body in physical confrontations.

Hairs/fur are incredibly small and thin, thus they would be receiving way less energy or heat than large parts like arms or legs. Pretty sure that's why some were willing to admit to that (Plus it's not like it matters for fighters if their hair is burned off).

Also uhhh, something I've just noticed and am curious about:

Furthermore, the damage sustained by Broly is enough for Lucy's "programming" to initiate Overclock Mode. Good timing too as Broly suddenly surrounds himself with Ki and proceeds to create a massive Ki explosion. Luckily, thanks to the speed boost combined with her instinctual behavior, Lucy would be capable of getting out of the way of this nuke before it hits her.

What exactly is the speed gap between her normal mode and overclock mode? She's listed as Unknown without the Overclock, but assuming it's average human speed of 5 m/s would give a gap of 68.06x which is... kinda insane.

 

[SSB64]

Broly's Ki Blast, his most basic ranged attack, has a range of 72.8m in terms of blast radius. Lucy's flamethrower is only several meters.

The issue with this is that he'd have to hit Lucy within New York, which is easier said than done when said opponent can move that quickly to the point where the energy attacks seem quite slow in comparison. Granted, she can't run forever, but that's what (possibly) the fumes and (almost certainly) the burning damage from the flames she used is for, to chip down Broly until he can't fight anymore since..... You know. He'll be on fire.

lAso uhhh, something I've just noticed and am curious about:

What exactly is the speed gap between her normal mode and overclock mode? She's listed as Unknown without the Overclock, but assuming it's average human speed of 5 m/s would give a gap of 68.06x which is... kinda insane.

As for Overclock..... Oh boy. I was saving this one for this moment when needed.

Okay. So Overclock is Lucy's most powerful ability that she possesses. It doubles the rate of her gun, and causes her to emit an insane amount of steam that now upgrades its lethality to cause third degree burns. However, the big one is that Lucy gains a speed boost. The reason why she's got low stats and few Hax is purely because of this ace she has up her mechanical sleeve. Granted, it does drain a huge amount of her limited battery, so she tends to use it in 15 second bursts unless her internals are screwed with in a way so as to remove that due to a broken part.

So, how big is this Overclock boost?

Well, it connects back with her Class K LS given that it was a result of me calculating her potential LS. See, to calculate it, I had to assume that her speed limit was Average Human Level (5m/s or so), and the ability is said to boost her to the speed of sound (343m/s).

Dividing the Overclock speed by her base speed would net the speed boost granted by Overclock to be x68.6. She might not have much, but she takes the name for the biggest stat amp (Even if it's pretty temporary and quite risky), in the entire Tourney.

Answered here if you're curious. Granted, Lucy can't spam this without risk of dying, but it's still very useful if she can use the flamethrower to set him on fire and then bide her time for him to die to the burning flames.

 

[SSB64]

At this point, I feel like I'm going to lose regardless of how I respond. At the very least, I can say that Lucy made it farther than I thought.

I thought she'd get immediately destroyed in Round 1, but she actually won that round, and I even found a wincon in Round 2, turning what would've been a STOMP into a Low Diff.

 

[ExSENNA]

All this for her to have an L added on her profile instead of this being a stomp