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So this was brought up before but never reached a conclusion since the thread was closed before a consensus could be made. But basically we treat Ganon creating an endless night across the Great Sea and having it be night around his fortress during the Wind Waker as him stopping and rotating the planet. This doesn't come from anything in the game itself, but rather a statement made by the Composer Brothers from Ocarina of Time where they mentioned that they learned how to manipulate time with the sound of an ocarina and that Ganon tried to take their research, and as such Ganon would forever be incapable of any form of time manipulation whatsoever. But I have my issues with this.
So we assume that Ganon rotates the planet whenever Link is at his fortress, but we never bothered to explain why it goes back to day whenever Link leaves and goes back to the Great Sea, which is a noticeable blemish on the idea that he rotates the planet. Afterall, why would he just randomly decide to rotate the planet back to normal whenever Link leaves?
As I also mentioned above the game this happens doesn't even hint at anything resembling planetary rotation or stopping, all we get is the game saying that Ganon placed a curse on the land creating a endless night and that obtaining Jabuns pearl dispels the curse and makes it day again.
It very possible that the developers ignored the Composer Brothers statement (Which even then, the statement doesn't necessarily mean that Ganon is incapable of using any form of time manipulation, he could have minor time based magic that doesn't hold a candle to the time accelerating abilities the brothers discovered) and that Ganon is using a limited form of time stop that allows him to create a perpetual night around a localized area kinda like the Ebony Stone in Castlevania, hence why it's night whenever Link arrives at the fortress and why it's day whenever he leaves, which makes more sense than "Ganon tried to steal research about using an ocarina to manipulate time in Ocarina of Time, therefore in Wind Waker he is just randomly flipping the planet back and forth because why not".
Now I'm not saying it's 100% time manipulation either since the game never says what he's actually doing, although judging by how the game seens to portray the thing it seems like a major possibility, it's mostly just an example of how we can come to any conclusion based on just a single statement. We don't have enough details about anything to say for sure that Ganons High 5-A feat is...well...a feat at all especially with the the question of why bother going out of his way to make it day again whenever Link leaves, we could just as easily say that he's actually moving the sun and moon instead of rotating the planet since afterall that takes the exact same amount of assumptions as planet rotation. We have no idea what he's doing and the whole thing is too vague with not enough backing it up to justify our own specific interpretation.
So yeah, I have my doubts about this and would like to know anyone elses opinion on this.
So we assume that Ganon rotates the planet whenever Link is at his fortress, but we never bothered to explain why it goes back to day whenever Link leaves and goes back to the Great Sea, which is a noticeable blemish on the idea that he rotates the planet. Afterall, why would he just randomly decide to rotate the planet back to normal whenever Link leaves?
As I also mentioned above the game this happens doesn't even hint at anything resembling planetary rotation or stopping, all we get is the game saying that Ganon placed a curse on the land creating a endless night and that obtaining Jabuns pearl dispels the curse and makes it day again.
It very possible that the developers ignored the Composer Brothers statement (Which even then, the statement doesn't necessarily mean that Ganon is incapable of using any form of time manipulation, he could have minor time based magic that doesn't hold a candle to the time accelerating abilities the brothers discovered) and that Ganon is using a limited form of time stop that allows him to create a perpetual night around a localized area kinda like the Ebony Stone in Castlevania, hence why it's night whenever Link arrives at the fortress and why it's day whenever he leaves, which makes more sense than "Ganon tried to steal research about using an ocarina to manipulate time in Ocarina of Time, therefore in Wind Waker he is just randomly flipping the planet back and forth because why not".
Now I'm not saying it's 100% time manipulation either since the game never says what he's actually doing, although judging by how the game seens to portray the thing it seems like a major possibility, it's mostly just an example of how we can come to any conclusion based on just a single statement. We don't have enough details about anything to say for sure that Ganons High 5-A feat is...well...a feat at all especially with the the question of why bother going out of his way to make it day again whenever Link leaves, we could just as easily say that he's actually moving the sun and moon instead of rotating the planet since afterall that takes the exact same amount of assumptions as planet rotation. We have no idea what he's doing and the whole thing is too vague with not enough backing it up to justify our own specific interpretation.
So yeah, I have my doubts about this and would like to know anyone elses opinion on this.
