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STAFF AND CALC GROUP MEMBERS ONLY (I don't want this to become another messy bleach thread)
So after not being allowed to have much of a say in the new Bleach changes (My fault due to being busy)
I came back to some pretty radical changes, i was skeptical at first so i thought nothing of it but as a calc group member i thought it was important for me to evaluate the calculations properly, so i went to watch the movie, twice. Very good movie, reminds me of Naruto: The last plotline so i think Kishi might have taken inspiration from it.
Regardless i saw some pretty gaping flaws in the calculations we use for the movie, they are VERY wrong, and i'll explain why in this thread
The first part of the calculatio
The problem with the first part of the calculation is the timeframe, it says only 1 hour had passed from the first shot to the last but this is false, i'll quote the calculation.
"00:52 , It is at this moment that the Planets are approaching.
1:38:39 , it is shown how close the Planets have come and this is where Senna begins to push them away.
It is quoted that the worlds would collide in about 1 hour"
However, at around 44 minutes in, Toshiro states "It's been 24 hours since the valley of screams has appeared"
and we know that the valley of screams is what was causing the planets to begin approaching one another In fact we literally have ichigo going on dates, spending days at home, sleeping and waking up and when does the 1 hour statement come in? nearly a whole HOUR into the movie, after all of what i just said happens, by the next time we see the planets
they are very close thus the movement in the calculation that was pixel scaled from 52 seconds in to an hour and 38 minutes in happened over several days, not 1 hour.
The second part of the calculatio
This one is the one i was very skeptical over at first, as i didn't understand the calculation at first but now i do and i'm 200% certain that it's flawed in its entirety.
For this i'm going to have to screenshot and paste the entire scene, just to show you all why exactly it's flawed, firstly let's look at what the calculation states.
"As both Planets were coming together, the distance traveled is half that: 2466.46 km"
"Now we have the feat of Senna driving away these worlds. It is the same thing, however, the time is shorter.
Using the time of this calculation: 4.8811 seconds.
Speed: 2466460 / 4.8811 = 505308.22 m / s, or Mach 1486.2
KE: 1.5249518059198877e+36 J"
So in essence the calculation is suggesting that Senna using the power of the blanks moved the planets over 2400 kilometers in the space of 4.8 seconds
Here's why this is wrong
The feat starts at 1:23:56, that's when we first get confirmation of the planets moving away from each other and we see them (For some reasons the wiki stopped me from uploading images so i'll just paste them from IMGUR now) we are TOLD that they are "Moving back" into stable positions, they haven't moved back, it's not a complete process, it just says that they are moving/they have started to move back
The start of the feat
Then one second later, the planets are in the same position, so the timeframe is already invalid, according to the timeframe it should've already moved back several hundred kilometers however they have not moved a single inch (1:23:57)
One second later
Another second passes, the explosions get bigger but the planets still have not moved an inch, the camera starts panning in, again no movement at all. (1:23:58)
Another second passes
The camera begins to get in really close and light fills up the screen as another second passes, the explosions get bigger however not a single moment of movement from either planet, and certainly not 2400 kilometers of movement that the calculation suggests, it's been 4 seconds already since the explosions began yet not a single moment of movement (1:23:59)
Explosions increase
And finally this is the final shot we get of the planets before the camera completely cuts away from the scene, we are told the fusion has stopped between the two planets at this point, yet guess what? The planets have not moved a single inch away from each other, not in the entire process did the planets move even meters away let alone 2.4 million meters away like the calculation suggests they did, please look at the first and final shot from this thread and tell me honestly if you think there was 2400 meters of movement in those scenes (1:24:01)
Final shot
And then after that shot it completely cuts to white, like entirely, nothing is shown or said about it again. (1:24:04)
White scree
So in essence
First calc: Completely invalid, timeframe isn't for the movement of the planet from the first panel to the last, the first panel is at 52 seconds in and the last panel is an hour and 23 minutes in, between that time there has been several days of passed time.
Second Calc: Again, invalid, the planets are NEVER shown to be moving, they are only stated to be moving backwards however not 2400 kilometers in 4 seconds like the calc suggests as that's never shown nor stated.
HOWEVER
Since the two planets were gravitationally bound and Senna used the power of the blanks to push them away permanently, it still is a 5-B feat, just not the 5-A that it's highballed to be.
So this should Downgrade all Bleach god tiers to 5-B and whoever is scaled from the weakened SK.
So after not being allowed to have much of a say in the new Bleach changes (My fault due to being busy)
I came back to some pretty radical changes, i was skeptical at first so i thought nothing of it but as a calc group member i thought it was important for me to evaluate the calculations properly, so i went to watch the movie, twice. Very good movie, reminds me of Naruto: The last plotline so i think Kishi might have taken inspiration from it.
Regardless i saw some pretty gaping flaws in the calculations we use for the movie, they are VERY wrong, and i'll explain why in this thread
The first part of the calculatio
The problem with the first part of the calculation is the timeframe, it says only 1 hour had passed from the first shot to the last but this is false, i'll quote the calculation.
"00:52 , It is at this moment that the Planets are approaching.
1:38:39 , it is shown how close the Planets have come and this is where Senna begins to push them away.
It is quoted that the worlds would collide in about 1 hour"
However, at around 44 minutes in, Toshiro states "It's been 24 hours since the valley of screams has appeared"
and we know that the valley of screams is what was causing the planets to begin approaching one another In fact we literally have ichigo going on dates, spending days at home, sleeping and waking up and when does the 1 hour statement come in? nearly a whole HOUR into the movie, after all of what i just said happens, by the next time we see the planets
they are very close thus the movement in the calculation that was pixel scaled from 52 seconds in to an hour and 38 minutes in happened over several days, not 1 hour.
The second part of the calculatio
This one is the one i was very skeptical over at first, as i didn't understand the calculation at first but now i do and i'm 200% certain that it's flawed in its entirety.
For this i'm going to have to screenshot and paste the entire scene, just to show you all why exactly it's flawed, firstly let's look at what the calculation states.
"As both Planets were coming together, the distance traveled is half that: 2466.46 km"
"Now we have the feat of Senna driving away these worlds. It is the same thing, however, the time is shorter.
Using the time of this calculation: 4.8811 seconds.
Speed: 2466460 / 4.8811 = 505308.22 m / s, or Mach 1486.2
KE: 1.5249518059198877e+36 J"
So in essence the calculation is suggesting that Senna using the power of the blanks moved the planets over 2400 kilometers in the space of 4.8 seconds
Here's why this is wrong
The feat starts at 1:23:56, that's when we first get confirmation of the planets moving away from each other and we see them (For some reasons the wiki stopped me from uploading images so i'll just paste them from IMGUR now) we are TOLD that they are "Moving back" into stable positions, they haven't moved back, it's not a complete process, it just says that they are moving/they have started to move back
The start of the feat
Then one second later, the planets are in the same position, so the timeframe is already invalid, according to the timeframe it should've already moved back several hundred kilometers however they have not moved a single inch (1:23:57)
One second later
Another second passes, the explosions get bigger but the planets still have not moved an inch, the camera starts panning in, again no movement at all. (1:23:58)
Another second passes
The camera begins to get in really close and light fills up the screen as another second passes, the explosions get bigger however not a single moment of movement from either planet, and certainly not 2400 kilometers of movement that the calculation suggests, it's been 4 seconds already since the explosions began yet not a single moment of movement (1:23:59)
Explosions increase
And finally this is the final shot we get of the planets before the camera completely cuts away from the scene, we are told the fusion has stopped between the two planets at this point, yet guess what? The planets have not moved a single inch away from each other, not in the entire process did the planets move even meters away let alone 2.4 million meters away like the calculation suggests they did, please look at the first and final shot from this thread and tell me honestly if you think there was 2400 meters of movement in those scenes (1:24:01)
Final shot
And then after that shot it completely cuts to white, like entirely, nothing is shown or said about it again. (1:24:04)
White scree
So in essence
First calc: Completely invalid, timeframe isn't for the movement of the planet from the first panel to the last, the first panel is at 52 seconds in and the last panel is an hour and 23 minutes in, between that time there has been several days of passed time.
Second Calc: Again, invalid, the planets are NEVER shown to be moving, they are only stated to be moving backwards however not 2400 kilometers in 4 seconds like the calc suggests as that's never shown nor stated.
HOWEVER
Since the two planets were gravitationally bound and Senna used the power of the blanks to push them away permanently, it still is a 5-B feat, just not the 5-A that it's highballed to be.
So this should Downgrade all Bleach god tiers to 5-B and whoever is scaled from the weakened SK.
