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Ok, so it's come to my attention, and the attention of others on the wiki, that the persona 3 and 4 pages need some serious upgrades. So let's begin.
PERSONA 4 ARENA: UPGRADES
Take Igor's attendants, Elizabeth and Margaret. Two high 6-A, Sub-Relativistic (with Relativistic reactions) characters, meant to be the game's superbosses. Both of them are here for scaling off the main protagonists. HOWEVER. Other characters, since they also fought and damaged these two, should also be at this tier. Before you decry the canonicity of this, let's also consider Persona 4 Arena. Aigis, Labrys, Junpei, Akihiko, Mitsuru and Yukari all appear as playable in this game (which is canon, by the way). Elizabeth and Margaret? Both of them appear in it as well, fighting battles against the others ONE-ON-ONE as opposed to in a team.
I noticed that the Persona 4 characters DO have P4 Arena keys, which should be upgraded to High 6-A and Sub-Relat. for the Persona 3 characters, i propose giving them a second key with the same stats, for Persona 4 Arena. Now, this shouldn't apply to anyone who isn't in Arena, since they don't fight one-on-one with igor's attendants. Thus, this applies to:
P3: Mitsuru Kirijo, Akihiko Sanada, Yukari Takeba, Aigis, Ken Amada, and Junpei Iori.
P4: Yu Narukami, Yosuke Hanamura, Chie Satonaka, Yukiko Amagi, Kanji Tatsumi, Teddie, Naoto Shirogane, and Tohru Adachi.
Note: Even if their ap and dura don't change because lol scaling doesn't apply, i think their speed definitely should be scaled.
That about covers that... but there's one character i'd like to talk about.
AIGIS AND THE ANSWER: UPGRADES
This only applies to one character: that would be Aigis. Though the p3 characters are already listed as mountain (i'll get to that in a moment) because of the answer, Aigis' page needs an upgrade as well, Not for Stats, but for abilities. In the answer, Aigis inherits the Fool arcana from The Protagonist (Minato), gaining access to his ability to summon multiple personas, including Messiah, the ultimate persona. Aigis should have a third key, between the base game and p4 arena, for the answer, where she's given all the powers and abilities listed in Minato's profile, since she can use all the same personas. As for stats, i don't THINK it would change, but I don't know how powerful messiah is considered to be without the universe arcana backing it up. So perhaps 7-A, possibly higher, if her stats change at all.
Also i'd like to direct everyone to this thread started a few years ago, which still holds true. https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/515770
OVERALL
-Aigis gets a key for the fool arcana and minato's abilities
-High 6-A, Sub-Rela profiles for persona 4 arena for the characters listed above
Your thoughts? Aigis' "the answer" key is pretty much obligatory tbh
Ok, so it's come to my attention, and the attention of others on the wiki, that the persona 3 and 4 pages need some serious upgrades. So let's begin.
PERSONA 4 ARENA: UPGRADES
Take Igor's attendants, Elizabeth and Margaret. Two high 6-A, Sub-Relativistic (with Relativistic reactions) characters, meant to be the game's superbosses. Both of them are here for scaling off the main protagonists. HOWEVER. Other characters, since they also fought and damaged these two, should also be at this tier. Before you decry the canonicity of this, let's also consider Persona 4 Arena. Aigis, Labrys, Junpei, Akihiko, Mitsuru and Yukari all appear as playable in this game (which is canon, by the way). Elizabeth and Margaret? Both of them appear in it as well, fighting battles against the others ONE-ON-ONE as opposed to in a team.
I noticed that the Persona 4 characters DO have P4 Arena keys, which should be upgraded to High 6-A and Sub-Relat. for the Persona 3 characters, i propose giving them a second key with the same stats, for Persona 4 Arena. Now, this shouldn't apply to anyone who isn't in Arena, since they don't fight one-on-one with igor's attendants. Thus, this applies to:
P3: Mitsuru Kirijo, Akihiko Sanada, Yukari Takeba, Aigis, Ken Amada, and Junpei Iori.
P4: Yu Narukami, Yosuke Hanamura, Chie Satonaka, Yukiko Amagi, Kanji Tatsumi, Teddie, Naoto Shirogane, and Tohru Adachi.
Note: Even if their ap and dura don't change because lol scaling doesn't apply, i think their speed definitely should be scaled.
That about covers that... but there's one character i'd like to talk about.
AIGIS AND THE ANSWER: UPGRADES
This only applies to one character: that would be Aigis. Though the p3 characters are already listed as mountain (i'll get to that in a moment) because of the answer, Aigis' page needs an upgrade as well, Not for Stats, but for abilities. In the answer, Aigis inherits the Fool arcana from The Protagonist (Minato), gaining access to his ability to summon multiple personas, including Messiah, the ultimate persona. Aigis should have a third key, between the base game and p4 arena, for the answer, where she's given all the powers and abilities listed in Minato's profile, since she can use all the same personas. As for stats, i don't THINK it would change, but I don't know how powerful messiah is considered to be without the universe arcana backing it up. So perhaps 7-A, possibly higher, if her stats change at all.
Also i'd like to direct everyone to this thread started a few years ago, which still holds true. https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/515770
OVERALL
-Aigis gets a key for the fool arcana and minato's abilities
-High 6-A, Sub-Rela profiles for persona 4 arena for the characters listed above
Your thoughts? Aigis' "the answer" key is pretty much obligatory tbh
