Pages for Xenoverse versions of Goku and Dabura?

[Nullflowerblush]

No, stop mentioning Xeno Gohan.​

Son Goku (Dragon Ball Xenoverse) plays a major role in the main story of the Xenoverse games, more so in Xenoverse than Xenoverse 2, but he still contributes some in the second game. He scales to the Future Warriors and the main villains, but he also has some powers exclusive to the Xenoverse games which also tie into the plot, like his immunity to Dark Magic due to being a god. At heart, he's the same ol' Goku, but he still plays a part in the story and is one of the major characters, so he would qualify.

And, alongside Fu, Dabura (Dragon Ball Xenoverse) is the main antagonist of the Infinite History Saga, causing the twisted time rifts that the Time Patrol are forced to correct with the end goal of defeating Chronoa and raising Fu into the status of King of the Demon Realm in hopes of reviving his people. Of course, his plan backfires, and he is killed by Fu at the last moment, but he still plays a vastly different role in Xenoverse 2 than the one he played in the original story. A major plot point in the first game is also the fact that Towa is his younger sister.

Shouldn't they have their own pages?

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Actually Xenoverse Goku being different from canon makes sense, he's experienced some of the movies like Tree of Might and Lord Slug and it's even implied that this Goku has also gone through GT as in one dialogue with the FW he mentions that he obtained Ssj4 a while ago and GT Goku in pre battle dialogue knows Beerus and Frieza's golden form.
For Dabura? IDK honestly but I'm not opposed to him having a profile

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Actually Xenoverse Goku being different from canon makes sense, he's experienced some of the movies like Tree of Might and Lord Slug and it's even implied that this Goku has also gone through GT as in one dialogue with the FW he mentions that he obtained Ssj4 a while ago and GT Goku in pre battle dialogue knows Beerus and Frieza's golden form.
For Dabura? IDK honestly but I'm not opposed to him having a profile

This is what I think as well

(CC Goku from Heroes should have a page as well tbh, but that's entirely another topic)

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

Not sure why we don’t have xeno dabura, neutral on goku

 

[Garchomp777]

You should make those profiles in a sandbox

Not sure why we don’t have xeno dabura, neutral on goku

Why neutral on goku?

 

[LightReinh12345]

Agree should be added
You should create sandboxes

 

[Nullflowerblush]

I gotchu.

 

[VinnyXD]

Isn't Xenoverse Goku already with Heros Goku.

I agree with Dabura

 

[Garchomp777]

Isn't Xenoverse Goku already with Heros Goku.

I agree with Dabura

Heroes and xenoverse are not canon to each other

 

[VinnyXD]

Heroes and xenoverse are not canon to each other

That's not really what I asked tho.

 

[Garchomp777]

That's not really what I asked tho.

What do you mean

 

[VinnyXD]

What do you mean

Don't we already use Xenoverse for Heroes in general not just Goku.

 

[Garchomp777]

Don't we already use Xenoverse for Heroes in general not just Goku.

No? And xenoverse isn't heroes

 

[Lord_JJJ]

I am not completly sure about if Goku page will be accepted here but I personnaly support it. And for Dabura I have no idea why he do not have a page at fisrt lol

 

[Nullflowerblush]

If Goku were to get a page, would we use the Goku renders we have already or could be get clever and use renders exclusively from video games?

 

[ProudLearner]

Heroes is canon to Xenoverse but Xenoverse is not canon to Heroes.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

I was actually planning on creating a CRT addressing that.

 

[VinnyXD]

Heroes is canon to Xenoverse but Xenoverse is not canon to Heroes.

Yeah this is what I meant

 

[Dominodalek]

This has been brought up before, and I suspect the answer will be the same now as it was back then, but I personally have no problem with this.

Don't we already use Xenoverse for Heroes in general not just Goku.

We do currently, but we shouldn't as they aren't canon to each other.

If Goku were to get a page, would we use the Goku renders we have already or could be get clever and use renders exclusively from video games?

Xenoverse 2 actually has a bunch of official renders from its Hero Colosseum mode, so we could definitely do this for Goku.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Is there any way to extract the renders from the game?

 

[Dominodalek]

I've already done it.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Is it possible for you to upload them into a gallery?

 

[Dominodalek]

Figures - Google Drive

drive.google.com

 

[VinnyXD]

Anyone know where I can find the dragon ball heroes manga to read

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Fair reminder that we never treated the events of Xenoverse 2 as canon to Heroes. Only Xenoverse 1. Whoever told you that we do is greatly misunderstanding things

 

[Dominodalek]

We don't now, but people have argued for that in the past.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Do we treat Xenoverse 2 as an alternate timeline branching off of the first game or do we treat Heroes as an alternate timeline branching off of Xenoverse?

Heroes being related to Xenoverse raises a couple of consistency issues, such as the Dark Demon Realm Mission (before Age 780 [the Prison Planet Saga]) taking place nearly hundreds of years before the events of Xenoverse (Age 850).

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Do we treat Xenoverse 2 as an alternate timeline branching off of the first game or do we treat Heroes as an alternate timeline branching off of Xenoverse?

The latter, I suppose

 

[Dominodalek]

Xenoverse and Heroes are not connected in any way. Trunks does not recognize Mira, Towa or Demigra during their first encounters in the Dark Demon Realm Saga. Tokitoki City does not exist, and the Time Patrol consists solely of Trunks until after the first encounter with Demigra.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Okay if that's the case then how does Heroes scale to Xenoverse's cosmology? Though it's probably a dumb question to ask, since even though they aren't the same continuity they share a similar multiverse/history and concepts

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Heroes has 2-A cosmology through the Budokai games.

 

[Dominodalek]

Okay if that's the case then how does Heroes scale to Xenoverse's cosmology? Though it's probably a dumb question to ask, since even though they aren't the same continuity they share a similar multiverse/history and concepts

This is subject to change, but the current cosmology appears to come from infinite multiverse statements from Budokai Tenkaichi 3 and Xenoverse 2. That is the justification linked to on the page for Demigra, and literally everyone else scales to him, directly or indirectly.

Heroes has 2-A cosmology through the Budokai games.

Not the same continuity, not that the Budokai trilogy really have distinct continuities in the first place.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Quick question. Why do we consider the characters in the Xenoverse story mode to be from the Toei continuity?

 

[ProudLearner]

Quick question. Why do we consider the characters in the Xenoverse story mode to be from the Toei continuity?

Because they are Toei characters.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

And what implies that?

 

[Dominodalek]

The fact that Pikkon and Chilled (the NPC Jierra in Xenoverse 2 talks about him, and how his warning is part of the official history) exist is a good indication.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

The fact that Pikkon and Chilled (the NPC Jierra in Xenoverse 2 talks about him, and how his warning is part of the official history) exist is a good indication.

Also If I remember well, in the main story of Xenoverse 2,Buu saga Goku (when he was fighting Majin Vegeta) recognized Broly. Not sure on this one thought

 

[Dominodalek]

Also If I remember well, in the main story of Xenoverse 2,Buu saga Goku (when he was fighting Majin Vegeta) recognized Broly. Not sure on this one thought

He does. Second Coming was also shown to be part of the official history in Xenoverse 1.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Weren't the Broly missions in Xenoverse 1 explicitly stated to occur in an alternate timeline?

 

[Dominodalek]

Weren't the Broly missions in Xenoverse 1 explicitly stated to occur in an alternate timeline?

They weren't. The closest thing to that is Chronoa saying that Demigra's wormhole (which hadn't actually done anything yet, so who knows how she knew this) sends people sucked inside to an "alternate dimension" - but even if that's been accurately translated, he isn't sucked in until after the Second Coming mission.