One Piece: Sanji Calc East Blue Upgrade

[KingTempest]

One Piece: Sabagashira I Baratie Feats

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Sanji pulled off this feat. Krieg > Sanji. Arlong > Sanji. Gin ~ Sanji. Pearl's Shields > Sanji. Just scale those 4 to/above Sanji and then we don't need to change anything.

Everyone in East Blue gets upgraded to 8-A from 8-B.

 

[Kachon123]

Sanji and Gin are comparable.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Obviously fine.

 

[KingTempest]

W/e Gin scales to the value

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Sanji and Gin are comparable.

They will scale to the same value, let's not nitpick.

 

[Eminiteable]

I agree

 

[Eseseso]

Agree for upgrading my boi

 

[KingTempest]

Agree for upgrading my boi

mf i'm upgrading the whole east blue

 

[Eseseso]

mf i'm upgrading the whole east blue

Oh, ok, whatever.

 

[KobsterHope07]

bump

 

[Eseseso]

I think we need to finish this before the Buggy CRT.

 

[Damage3245]

I think we need to finish this before the Buggy CRT.

Buggy CRT is done.

 

[Eseseso]

Buggy CRT is done.

Ok, then.

So what's the verdict on this? Can it be put in yet?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Well, this seems simple enough. I agree.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Why is the ship assumed to be made entirely from steel, I understand the shooting mechanism inside for the canon being that but wouldn't the rest make more sense being wood or something?
Do I not get something?

 

[Damage3245]

I'll post a comment on this tomorrow, though I share Tllmbrg's confusion on that point.

Assuming the entire thing is constructed from steel seems unwarranted.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Huh, I didn't even notice that. It is pretty odd.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Also have an issue with the steel assumption

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

346 Sabah Gassiler 6/53

A naval weapon built into the bow of the Baratier. Three cannons are installed in its mouth, but it lacks mobility as its propulsion is human-powered (leg paddles).

← The bow of the ship is the naval weapon SABAGASHIRA!

The Sabah Gasshirah

A naval weapon to protect the safety of guests during meals.

I mean it's literally meant to be a small defensive tank ship

The wood broke but the ship didn't, plus most of it is shiny, implying there's some sort of steel

I agree with the op personally

 

[Kachon123]

I agree for Monkey's reasons

 

[KingTempest]

No way you guys looked at that and said "it's wood"

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

No way you guys looked at that and said "it's wood"

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

MonkeyOfLife sounds right, so I think the OP makes sense. It's not a normal ship and looks more like a fish themed mechanical battlecruiser.

 

[Eseseso]

Agree with mOnKE

 

[LordGinSama]

If anyone thinks that looks like wood instead of wood then you've never seen what wood looks like.

Brb removing Ace's fire Manipulation since his fire doesn't look like it produces smoke so obviously he isn't fire.

 

[Elizhaa]

Upgrades seem fine based on MonkeyOfLife and KingTempest's points and evidences.

 

[Damage3245]

If it was painted wood, then I don't see the issue with its appearance. None of the databook statements indicate it being metal. The best evidence there is just that it didn't break when crashing into the other ship.

 

[Damage3245]

My other issue with the calc is using the square-cube law to find the ship's mass by comparing it to a real mackeral.

This is what the proportions of a mackeral looks like:

And this is what the porportions of the ship looks like:

So something like this "Fish head is 20%-25% (22.5%) of the mass." doesn't work when we can see that the "head" portion of the ship is clearly not 22.5% of the entire ship, and its proprotions do not line up with IRL mackeral at all.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

If it was painted wood, then I don't see the issue with its appearance. None of the databook statements indicate it being metal. The best evidence there is just that it didn't break when crashing into the other ship.

In one of the small texts, it's called a tank... What tank is made from wood

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

In one of the small texts, it's called a tank... What tank is made from wood

Actually it says tanker

which on Google the images are of steel ships

 

[Damage3245]

Actually it says tanker

which on Google the images are of steel ships

I didn't see that in any of the sections of text you had quoted.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

346

キコ

いちこう

サバガシラー号
せんしゅ
ないぞう
バラティエの船首に内蔵された、
かいせんへいき
こうない
さんもん
たいほう
海戦兵器。口内には三門の大砲が
せっち
設置されて
いるが、推
しんりょく
じんりき
進力が人力
あし
(脚こぎ)な
ので、機動
力に欠ける。

M

6/53

バシャバシャーバ

きどう

346

Kiko

Ichiko

Sabah Gasshirar
ship's captain
internal construction
Built into the bow of the Baratier, the
open water tanker | opening fuselage | marine tanker | sea-faring tanker | opened water tanker | ship's propulsion system, which includes an ocean-going tanker
internal
trident
antipersonnel
naval weapon. Three cannons in the mouth.
installed
installed
but the thrust
new power
human power
propulsion is human-powered
foot
(leg paddles), so
and lacks maneuverability.
lacks maneuverability.

M

6/53

Basha basha basha basha

motive

 

[Damage3245]

Since I'm outvoted on this I'll drop the wood point, but the proportions issue is still a problem.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Since there is no basis for my initial complaint on this I'll drop the wood point, but the proportions issue is still a problem.

I'm going to find a better animal for the proportions, this won't affect the calculation that much, I reckon.

 

[Damage3245]

I'm going to find a better animal for the proportions, this won't affect the calculation that much, I reckon.

Dude, seriously do not edit other people's posts when you quote them, even for a joke.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Dude, seriously do not edit other people's posts when you quote them, even for a joke.

Bruh.

Either way, looking into IRL Animals to scale the fish-ship thingy. Hard to find something as thick as this one, I might take a minute.

 

[KingTempest]

My other issue with the calc is using the square-cube law to find the ship's mass by comparing it to a real mackeral.

This is what the proportions of a mackeral looks like:

And this is what the porportions of the ship looks like:

So something like this "Fish head is 20%-25% (22.5%) of the mass." doesn't work when we can see that the "head" portion of the ship is clearly not 22.5% of the entire ship, and its proprotions do not line up with IRL mackeral at all.

I never said the head proportion was 22.5 percent of the entire ship.

I said that'd be the size of a theoretical mackeral with a head size that big, and I was using the 22.5% to count for the entire ship, not just for the head of it.

The ship is called the Mackeral head, so I calced the mass of a Mackeral head.

 

[Damage3245]

I never said the head proportion was 22.5 percent of the entire ship.

I said that'd be the size of a theoretical mackeral with a head size that big, and I was using the 22.5% to count for the entire ship, not just for the head of it.

The ship is called the Mackeral head, so I calced the mass of a Mackeral head.

Okay. That was a bit unclear in the original calc, but I see it now.

 

[KingTempest]

Bump

Edit: Actually it's been accepted. Free to add?

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

Would any of the 8-B matches with those characters need to be removed, since the change in AP is rather small.