Ok, Let's Talk Kashin Koji (Boruto CRT)

[RanaProGamer]

With the recent chapters of Boruto, I think it has become more clear that cyborgs can indeed be much more powerful than Jigen.

Examples include Delta matching SPSM Naruto.

Code is stated as being more stronger than Delta even with his limiters.

And without his limiters scales above Jigen.

And we know that Amado stated that the cyborgs were created to surpass Jigen.

We see that Kashin Koji was confident that he could take down Delta.

This is consistent with him taking on 10% Jigen. Who at full power scales far above 201.7 Exatons (Half of this calc). 10% of this should give 20 Exatons (Multi-Continental level+), but this is far below even Delta who he was confident in taking on (The dialogue of Amado implied he had to save his strength to fight Jigen). So it should be assumed that Jigen even at 10% should be 5-C (201.7 Exatons) as he stomped Naruto and Sasuke while not even going all out. This would make the chain, Delta (5-C) = Kashin Koji (5-C) = 10% Jigen (5-C)

So my proposal, Kashin Koji should be upgraded to 5-C (Moon level).

[Bonus]

10% Jigen scales to 201.7 Exatons, which means 100% Jigen should scale to 2 Zettatons (Small Planet level), Ishhiki should scale above 2 Zettatons as he's far stronger than 100% Jigen.

Since base Kashin Koji can use Sage Mode, he should also get a 10x multiplier and should scale to 2 Zettatons, which Ishhiki upscales from stomping KK.

Baryon Mode Naruto is the only one besides Isshiki and Sage Mode KK who would scale to this.


(Tho this part is not mandatory and can be discussed later)

I pray this goes well.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Agree with this. But, there is a but. Code would scale post Isshiki death, and tbh, you can make good arguments for Natto and Sausage scaling, but I’ll talk about that later.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

I was thinking about this a few weeks ago, and I was planning on creating a CRT on it, but I'm a lazy bum, and I agree with Kashin being 5-C.
Even if this fails, since he is a copy of Jiraiya—rather than a synthetic offspring like Mitsuki—he should at least scale to the man.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

He’s WAY above Jiraiya, we would have to be smoking something to put him at Jiraiya’ ap.
As for Naruto and Sasuke:

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

 

[Auf]

Agree with koji being 5C

But he shouldn't scale to small planet isshiki u proposed because we dont know if he was going to use sage mode against delta

 

[RanaProGamer]

Agree with koji being 5C

But he shouldn't scale to small planet isshiki u proposed because we dont know if he was going to use sage mode against delta

Oh no, you misunderstood, I meant in base he’d scale to Delta who is 5-C and using Sage Mode would make him 10x stronger than that, Isshiki would scale above Sage Mode KK. I didn’t say anything about Sage Mode KK scaling to Delta, only base KK.

 

[DuDE01010]

I'm a bit confused, are you suggesting 10% Jigen is equal to Naruto and Sasuke? Jigen while also having absorbed a portion of Juubi's chakra was at his limit by the end. Amdao gives Naruto and Sasuke more of a chance against Isshiki than Koji.

I think this gives more towards downgrading Delta to multi continental+ rather than 5C Koji.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

It doesn’t though.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

why the hell would we downgrade delta
are we downgrading naruto, too

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Amdao gives Naruto and Sasuke more of a chance against Isshiki than Koji.

Natto and Sausage have better feats after the Jigen fight, in addition to what i already posted

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Actually, in retrospect, Naruto and Sasuke only performed the Chibaku Tensei when they had Hagoromo's Yin and Yang Power. Shikamaru's Story — Mourning Clouds also confirms that the two had lost that special Six Paths Yin and Yang Power for the most part, with Naruto only retaining a piece of that power because of his status as the Ten-Tails Jinchūriki.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Ten tails Naruto?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Naruto is "considered" the Ten-Tails Jinchūriki because he has a piece of all the Tailed Beasts inside of him; first, Sasuke addressed him as such, and then the novel referred to him as kinda the Ten-Tails Jinchūriki, y'know, by technicality.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Well this contradicts us knowing he still has spsm.

 

[Tohaku]

I think the abilities Naruto has in spsm are weaker than the war because he opts to go into sage mode to sense things rather than use spsm sensing which would be superior at its original level

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Well this contradicts us knowing he still has spsm.

Yeah. The novel states that the reason he can still use Six Paths Sage Mode is because of the Tailed Beasts inside of him, but he does not have the special abilities like Yin-Yang Release or the power to form the Chibaku Tensei when collaborating with Sasuke's Yin.

 

[DuDE01010]

Natto and Sausage have better feats after the Jigen fight, in addition to what i already posted

They may have 'better' feats but they're the same version. Its not like they trained after they had their asses handed to them. Which makes the scaling chain wonky af.

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

Actually, in retrospect, Naruto and Sasuke only performed the Chibaku Tensei when they had Hagoromo's Yin and Yang Power. Shikamaru's Story — Mourning Clouds also confirms that the two had lost that special Six Paths Yin and Yang Power for the most part, with Naruto only retaining a piece of that power because of his status as the Ten-Tails Jinchūriki.

This is way inetresting and maybe used in next CRTs in the future.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

No bueno Boruto scaling.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

They may have 'better' feats but they're the same version. Its not like they trained after they had their asses handed to them. Which makes the scaling chain wonky af.

Naruto has gotten stronger throughout a single fight before.

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

They may have 'better' feats but they're the same version. Its not like they trained after they had their asses handed to them. Which makes the scaling chain wonky af.

Welcome to Boruto. The scaling is always bad.

 

[DuDE01010]

Naruto has gotten stronger throughout a single fight before.

Oh come on lol. You cannot be seriously suggesting Naruto magically got stronger by standing around and talking.

 

[DuDE01010]

Welcome to Boruto. The scaling is always bad.

Its seriously annoying lol.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Oh come on lol. You cannot be seriously suggesting Naruto magically got stronger by standing around and talking.

Yes, because feats show it. Tagging and staggering Isshiki is better then being dogged by Jigen.

 

[Popted2]

you know i always tought that Jigen after the fight with Naruto and Sasuke got so weakened since his body was destroyed by the power of Isshiki that even Kashin was able to fight him

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

So the gist of this CRT is basically this right:

Kashin Koji = 5-C for being confident in taking on Delta, and Amado saying that he should save his strength for Jigen, and Low 5-B when in Sage Mode.

10% Jigen (Karma Seal and Otsutsuki Form) = 5-C for fighting Kashin Koji

100% Jigen (Karma Seal and Otsutsuki Form) = Low 5-B for being 10 times stronger than his 10% self.

Isshiki = Low 5-B for being stronger than 100% Jigen.

Code (With Limiters) = 5-C for being implied/stated to be stronger than Delta, and Low 5-B Without Limiters for being stated by Amado to surpass 100% Jigen.

So basically they all scale to Delta who in turn scales to Naruto whom Amado stated has a chance at taking down Isshiki who also stated that Kashin Koji lacks the power to take down Isshiki. The Naruto who had a fight against Karma Seal Jigen who was at 100% along with Sasuke.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Yeah, we know he was weaker, but he wasn’t use sage mode.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

So the gist of this CRT is basically this right:

Kashin Koji = 5-C for being confident in taking on Delta, and Amado saying that he should save his strength for Jigen, and Low 5-B when in Sage Mode.

10% Jigen (Karma Seal and Otsutsuki Form) = 5-C for fighting Kashin Koji

100% Jigen (Karma Seal and Otsutsuki Form) = Low 5-B for being 10 times stronger than his 10% self.

Isshiki = Low 5-B for being stronger than 100% Jigen.

Code (With Limiters) = 5-C for being implied/stated to be stronger than Delta, and Low 5-B Without Limiters for being stated by Amado to surpass 100% Jigen.

So basically they all scale to Delta who in turn scales to Naruto whom Amado stated has a chance at taking down Isshiki who also stated that Kashin Koji lacks the power to take down Isshiki. The Naruto who had a fight against Karma Seal Jigen who was at 100% along with Sasuke.

Precisely.

 

[Popted2]

Yeah, we know he was weaker, but he wasn’t use sage mode.

i mean he go so weakened that even Kashin was able to fight him

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

So basically wouldn't Naruto scale to 100% Jigen for making he resort to use up more Chakra by entering his Otsutsuki Form and causing the crystal in his torso to crack?

And the 10% and 100% stuff refers to Jigen's Chakra Quantity btw

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

First of all, his name is Koji, his surname is Kashin. Second, bro, that doesn’t matter, point is, Base Koji>Delta, Sage Mode is 10 times Koji’s Base.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

So basically wouldn't Naruto scale to 100% Jigen for making he resort to use up more Chakra by entering his Otsutsuki Form and causing the crystal in his torso to crack?

And the 10% and 100% stuff refers to Jigen's Chakra Quantity btw

Yes, Sasuke should too. Unless we wanna make keys for post Jigen fight, which I guess, sure.

 

[Popted2]

First of all, his name is Koji, his surname is Kashin. Second, bro, that doesn’t matter, point is, Base Koji>Delta, Sage Mode is 10 times Koji’s Base.

i know that his name is Koji i just like to call him Kashin

ok in fact i didn't mean i was right i just wanted to point out that

 

[Popted2]

Yes, Sasuke should too. Unless we wanna make keys for post Jigen fight, which I guess, sure.

hold on that couldn't possibly mean reactive power level?

if i'm wrong please just tell me

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

I think so, it’s consistent.

 

[Damage3245]

So the gist of this CRT is basically this right:

Kashin Koji = 5-C for being confident in taking on Delta, and Amado saying that he should save his strength for Jigen, and Low 5-B when in Sage Mode.

10% Jigen (Karma Seal and Otsutsuki Form) = 5-C for fighting Kashin Koji

100% Jigen (Karma Seal and Otsutsuki Form) = Low 5-B for being 10 times stronger than his 10% self.

Isshiki = Low 5-B for being stronger than 100% Jigen.

Code (With Limiters) = 5-C for being implied/stated to be stronger than Delta, and Low 5-B Without Limiters for being stated by Amado to surpass 100% Jigen.

So basically they all scale to Delta who in turn scales to Naruto whom Amado stated has a chance at taking down Isshiki who also stated that Kashin Koji lacks the power to take down Isshiki. The Naruto who had a fight against Karma Seal Jigen who was at 100% along with Sasuke.

Yeah... This scaling looks real wonky.

 

[Popted2]

I think so, it’s consistent.

OMG i tought my question would be mercilessly countered

you just put a smile on my face

 

[Damage3245]

We see that Kashin Koji was confident that he could take down Delta.

For all we know Kashin Koji was about to go Sage Mode to take her down.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Then he wouldn’t be wasting his energy.