New Power: Imperceptible Physiology

[Assaltwaffle]

Some characters have a unique physiology: one that is imperceptible to a normal or untrained character. Most of these entities are so vast or impossible to grasp that people don't truly know what they are seeing. This can lead to a variety of results, such as the viewing character perceiving the entity as something easier to grasp, like a human, seeing nothing all, or just going insane.

While we already have physiology-based madness manipulation, the former two are unaccounted for by physiology only and can be very unsold as just invisibility or the like.

So, what do y'all think? Is a new power needed to encompass this kind of character, or do we need to just make due with what we currently have?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

We already talked about this so you know i agree

 

[The_Divine_Phoenix]

Would this apply only to madness inducing type beings or also ones that are invisible and intangible by nature (Would Stands count as this?)?

 

[Wokistan]

Can't this just be classed under invis? I don't really see a difference between that and being imperceptible.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Wok Its not about being invisible, its like eldrich beings who cannot be properly perceived by normal beings

 

[Wokistan]

And as such they'd either have type 3 madness, or invis. Regardless of the method being unable to be perceived is still invisibility.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Also another result of this power in addition to the three above would be seeing something nonsensical or impossible to make out. An example of this would be Nagakabouros from League of Legends, an example of rationalizing the character into a more perceivable form would be Jas from RuneScape, an example of viewing the character as invisible would be the dwarves of God of War (2018), and an example of the maddening characters would be pretty much most of the Eldritch Horrors in the Cthulhu Mythos.

 

[Wokistan]

Forcing the mind to perceive it as something different can be classed under mind manip. That, or a resistance to madness on the part of the Character for being able to do that, if it drives others insane.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

@Wok

Some entities would also just appear very different or even in a more human or understandable form.

This is a pretty big advantage for the character with this power, as it would be very hard to hit since what is being seen is not accurate. It also better shows that this is a passive of the character and cannot be nulled by power nullers, which is pretty important.

 

[Wokistan]

Passives can still be nulled by some nullers but that's not really super important rn.

I do get what you're talking about though. With a Culexus Assassi, people either have their minds burned out by being near them, they can't perceive them at all because their brains don't want to, or they only can perceive them in their peripheral as fleeting streaks of something. (There are people who don't have to deal with that stuff but they are far from standard). However, I think their stuff is classified fine as is, under invis and mind/madness. I don't really see the imperceptible thing as necessary when people can just describe an ability more than the bare minimum when making profiles.

 

[Wokistan]

This also happened with Emrakul, when she invaded the mind of Jace Belere. Jace's mind was trying to depict it as something else since it can't handle Emrakul's true form, and Emrakul's 3D shadow was passively destroying minds on Innistrad as well. This is already covered under it's madness manipulation and I don't think a new power is necessary just for that. It's just a resistance on behalf of Jace.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Passives can be nulled, yes, but mere physiology can't.

 

[Wokistan]

ehhh you haven't seen the BS power null a few characters have that will alter dudes physiology to negate stuff but again it's not the most relevant thing to this thread and is more just a feat for them

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Well still, that's more potent power null to alter physiology.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

If this passes, the likes of Voids like Merkava from Under Night In-Birth would fall under this.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

What do you think about it, Dragon?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Seems fine to me.

 

[Kepekley23]

I'm not sure about this.