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Franstel said:
What do you think about giving a Alive key to people such as the Hassans or the Heyan Kyo cast that possess the same powers as their servant self but without the servant physiology and thus without invulnerability ?
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Actually the Heian Kyo people are above servant level. The Raikou and Shuten in the Seven Swordmasters of Shimosa were confident they would lose to Yagyu unless they were living. Do note, the Seven Swordmasters are already stronger than servants.

Edit: They would currently be Low 6-B.
 
Mageman460 said:
Actually the Heian Kyo people are above servant level. The Raikou and Shuten in the Seven Swordmasters of Shimosa were confident they would lose to Yagyu unless they were living. Do note, the Seven Swordmasters are already stronger than servants.

Edit: They would currently be Low 6-B.
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They were shown struggling against servants even in a 5 vs 2.
Also why are the Seven Swordmasters even Low 6B in the first place that justification, feel very weak since a boost in strenght is not necessarly a jump in tier + the Musashi couldn't kill them without muramasa's sword come from the fact that Douman hided their spirit core outside their bodies or something like that,
 
Franstel said:
They were shown struggling against servants even in a 5 vs 2.
Also why are the Seven Swordmasters even Low 6B in the first place that justification, feel very weak since a boost in strenght is not necessarly a jump in tier + the Musashi couldn't kill them without muramasa's sword come from the fact that Douman hided their spirit core outside their bodies or something like that,
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You mean when they were toying with Musashi and then Yagyu 1v1d Inshun to show off his regen and then corrupt him? Inshun is also pretty much stated to have the greatest skill when it comes to a spear, even greater than the current Musashi's sword skill and likely even that Yagyu's sword skill. Or the 2v2 Muramasa and Musashi vs Rider/Berserker. When Musashi was growing throughout the singularity and Muramasa had already blitzed and one shot Inshun. Muramasa is actually built different.
The summoning is directly stated to be greater than that of regular servants. If you read the scan attached to the statement about Muramasa's sword, you would see it was an actual statement about how Raikou easily parried Musashi and Musashi believed she had no chance against any of them at that point because they were just stronger than her. Also, they should just be Low 6-B, iirc, not sure why they're Low 6-B+. Pretty sure it was just a mistake in editing. Base Servants are currently 962 Gigatons, which is a 1.04x difference to Low 6-B, so everything stronger than Servants just upscale to baseline Low 6-B.
 
Mageman460 said:
You mean when they were toying with Musashi and then Yagyu 1v1d Inshun to show off his regen and then corrupt him? Inshun is also pretty much stated to have the greatest skill when it comes to a spear, even greater than the current Musashi's sword skill and likely even that Yagyu's sword skill. Or the 2v2 Muramasa and Musashi vs Rider/Berserker. When Musashi was growing throughout the singularity and Muramasa had already blitzed and one shot Inshun. Muramasa is actually built different.
The summoning is directly stated to be greater than that of regular servants. If you read the scan attached to the statement about Muramasa's sword, you would see it was an actual statement about how Raikou easily parried Musashi and Musashi believed she had no chance against any of them at that point because they were just stronger than her. Also, they should just be Low 6-B, iirc, not sure why they're Low 6-B+. Pretty sure it was just a mistake in editing. Base Servants are currently 962 Gigatons, which is a 1.04x difference to Low 6-B, so everything stronger than Servants just upscale to baseline Low 6-B.
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No I'm talking in Heyan Kyo in the servant boss rush part.
An Alliance of Kintoki, Danzou, Raikou, Nursery Rhyme, Tsunaand Ritsuka barely managed to beat Touta and Rapthalia's plagiat (I forgot her name). They had to bait them into using their NP and strike them while their guard were down.
 
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Franstel said:
No I'm talking in Heyan Kyo in the servant boss rush part.
An Alliance of Kintoki, Danzou, Raikou, Nursery Rhyme, Tsunaand Ritsuka barely managed to beat Touta and Rapthalia's plagiat (I forgot her name). They had to bait them into using their NP and strike them while their guard were down.
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AH my bad. You were referring to the summonings that were even better than the Seven Heroic Swordmasters. So uh yeah, not really.
 
Mageman460 said:
AH my bad. You were referring to the summonings that were even better than the Seven Heroic Swordmasters. So uh yeah, not really.
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Can't seem to find where it ever have been stated but i'll just believe you since I don't want to launch a pointless debate. The Heyan Kyo cast was nothing than an example in the first place.
 
Tdjwo said:
Saber Shiki is not the root
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Translate:
People in 「FateGO」
The woman whom we’ve gotten a glimpse of during the irregular singularity, the Boundary.

She wears a bright clear kimono with graceful gesture, showing discernment, but full of affection. This defines her routine even in abnormal situations.

Due to the uncertainty of her own existence, she wishes to remain uninvolved in strange cases, even when she knows the details about them.

A distinguished individual one would not normally meet. But— in the opposite case, it would be on a snowy day, while everyone is asleep.

She’s the same person as Shiki Ryougi, the girl who wears a jacket over her kimono. However, their personalities are different.

If Shiki Ryougi is the girl known as 「Shiki」, then this person is the woman known as「Shiki Ryougi」

The personality of the body itself, embodying 「 」 that represents the beginning.

She slumbers within Shiki from her birth to her death.

Shiki can't perceive 「Shiki Ryougi」, and 「Shiki Ryougi」 will never take Shiki's place.
 
Hossein28e7 said:


Translate:
People in 「FateGO」
The woman whom we’ve gotten a glimpse of during the irregular singularity, the Boundary.

She wears a bright clear kimono with graceful gesture, showing discernment, but full of affection. This defines her routine even in abnormal situations.

Due to the uncertainty of her own existence, she wishes to remain uninvolved in strange cases, even when she knows the details about them.

A distinguished individual one would not normally meet. But— in the opposite case, it would be on a snowy day, while everyone is asleep.

She’s the same person as Shiki Ryougi, the girl who wears a jacket over her kimono. However, their personalities are different.

If Shiki Ryougi is the girl known as 「Shiki」, then this person is the woman known as「Shiki Ryougi」

The personality of the body itself, embodying 「 」 that represents the beginning.

She slumbers within Shiki from her birth to her death.

Shiki can't perceive 「Shiki Ryougi」, and 「Shiki Ryougi」 will never take Shiki's place.
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I think I should have worded it differently. Saber Shiki is a nerfed version of Void Shiki/root because of the servant container.
 
Hossein28e7 said:
Why? Where is it said?
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It's not specifically mentioned for Shiki. But we know servant containers have limits based on Enkidu's statements regarding Gods and their nerfed servant containers compared to their original. The same applies for Saber Shiki.
 
illimitableuntildeath.fandom.com

Mystic Eyes of Death Perception (Innate Skill)

Can be able to see the thing 『Death』, 『Death』 this type the form receive that concept that does not have the entity by visual message, manifests to be similar to doodle 『Line』, when 『Line』 of object shut off, the shut off part will be coursed the end directly, creates death that is unable to...
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xianxia dude got MEODP lol
 
Grand_Saver_Ritsuka said:
illimitableuntildeath.fandom.com

Mystic Eyes of Death Perception (Innate Skill)

Can be able to see the thing 『Death』, 『Death』 this type the form receive that concept that does not have the entity by visual message, manifests to be similar to doodle 『Line』, when 『Line』 of object shut off, the shut off part will be coursed the end directly, creates death that is unable to...
illimitableuntildeath.fandom.com illimitableuntildeath.fandom.com
xianxia dude got MEODP lol
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I feel like this might be copyright infringement.
 
Tdjwo said:
What in the copyright fanfic is that? Copied the name and ability word for word, bar for bar.
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Have you seen this?
I see. ...It's a difficult concept to put into words," Glenn said.

In Glenn's mind, memories of a mystical experience, where he had glimpsed a fragment of it at the end of his soul's journey spanning billions of light-years, involuntarily resurfaced.

Yes. It’s one and all. All and one.

It governs, grasps, and rules over the wisdom of all things. It is the first soul born in this infinite multiverse world—'the Origin of One.'

At the center of every branching world and every dimensional tree in this world, it is the source of all beings and the singularity.

Therefore, it contains all information of this world and possesses the power of successive multivariate omnipotence that makes up everything in this world.

Some call it 'God.'

Some call it 'the Root.'

Some call it 'the Truth.'

Some call it 'the Overflowing World.'

Some call it 'Heaven.'

Or perhaps some call it 'the Almighty Wish Fulfilling Device.' There are also those who consider it nothing more than a 'gigantic recording medium.'

That is the Akashic Records—the ultimate destination of wisdom pursued relentlessly by all sorcerers.

That, indeed, was the true purpose of the Heavenly Wisdom Research Society, the Great Masters, and the Demon Lord.
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