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Eh, his talk-no-jutsu is a discount version of Goku's own trope of "befriending enemies" that he's always doneNaruto uses talk no jutsu to make Goku retire and dedicate his life to farming.
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Eh, his talk-no-jutsu is a discount version of Goku's own trope of "befriending enemies" that he's always doneNaruto uses talk no jutsu to make Goku retire and dedicate his life to farming.
Not even closeEh, his talk-no-jutsu is a discount version of Goku's own trope of "befriending enemies" that he's always done
Yeah, except Goku staring at him too hard might make Naruto's head explode. Also, Goku isn't stupid, he isn't gonna stand there and let Naruto fight and throw his entire arsenal at him.Naruto can still win via two ways here even with the massive AP gap.
Rasenshuriken dura neg (attacks opponents at the cellular level)
Erasure and deconstruction via TSO
I'd argue Naruto's version is better considering he managed to get two villains to unalive themselves to help NarutoEh, his talk-no-jutsu is a discount version of Goku's own trope of "befriending enemies" that he's always done
Nah at range literally the first thing he'll do is throw a Rasenshuriken. At close range he immediately busts out the TSO stick.Yeah, except Goku staring at him too hard might make Naruto's head explode. Also, Goku isn't stupid, he isn't gonna stand there and let Naruto fight and throw his entire arsenal at him.
I mean, didn't Piccolo unalive himself to safe Goku's son's life?I'd argue Naruto's version is better considering he managed to get two villains to unalive themselves to help Naruto
I'd attribute that more to Gohan than Goku tbh.I mean, didn't Piccolo unalive himself to safe Goku's son's life?
Not the same thing, naruto made them kill themselves just to help himI mean, didn't Piccolo unalive himself to safe Goku's son's life?
Which I don't see why Goku can't counter with a Ki blast, and at close range fighting Goku is a death sentence for Naruto. Not sure why speed is equalized.Nah at range literally the first thing he'll do is throw a Rasenshuriken. At close range he immediately busts out the TSO stick.
Look at the speed values for both and you will see whyWhich I don't see why Goku can't counter with a Ki blast, and at close range fighting Goku is a death sentence for Naruto. Not sure why speed is equalized.
That's why I'm asking. Why shouldn't Goku be allowed to use his speed advantage and blitz Naruto's intestines out as would normally happen?Look at the speed values for both and you will see why
I wager Goku, I don't think there's any doubt that Goku is superior in close range combat.At close range it's going to depend on who's going to hit first. Naruto with his TSO stick or Goku with, literally anything.
The match would have not been possible to be done then, you expected me to do a boring match where one side has no wincons?That's why I'm asking. Why shouldn't Goku be allowed to use his speed advantage and blitz Naruto's intestines out as would normally happen?
That's....precisely what most DB vs Naruto matches are. One sided stomps for DB. Maybe look at other matches with characters whose stats aren't (literally) universes apart.The match would have not been possible to be done then, you expected me to do a boring match where one side has no wincons?
Yet naruto won when they shared a tierThat's....precisely what most DB vs Naruto matches are. One sided stomps for DB.
That is what i did, this thread was made when they were pretty close in statsMaybe look at other matches with characters whose stats aren't (literally) universes apart.
So Naruto needs the same tier AND equal speeds to be able to win against Goku? I think you just proved my point, that without these luxuries (Naruto is never sharing a tier with most versions of Goku, nor is he as fast), he stands 0 chance. Which is my point.Yet naruto won when they shared a tier
That is what i did, this thread was made when they were pretty close in stats
Yeah? What about it? Naruto would destroy original db no problem, does that really matter? No, sayan saga is a good match, i may do it later onSo Naruto needs the same tier AND equal speeds to be able to win against Goku? I think you just proved my point, that without these luxuries (Naruto is never sharing a tier with most versions of Goku, nor is he as fast), he stands 0 chance. Which is my point.
Here's Fodderuto at his strongest losing to Anime Goku at his weakestYeah? What about it? Naruto would destroy original db no problem, does that really matter? No, sayan saga is a good match, i may do it later on
I have some Naruto vs Saiyan Saga threads going on. There's a Vegeta vs Gaara (both 5-B) that's still going.Yeah? What about it? Naruto would destroy original db no problem, does that really matter? No, sayan saga is a good match, i may do it later on
Use some Toei characters too, don't be shyI have some Naruto vs Saiyan Saga threads going on. There's a Vegeta vs Gaara (both 5-B) that's still going.
Might cook some more VS threads.
That's a one way ticket to the RvR for making intentional spite threads.Use some Toei characters too, don't be shy
I wish we had 5-A db still to put barion mode against, one day maybeI have some Naruto vs Saiyan Saga threads going on. There's a Vegeta vs Gaara (both 5-B) that's still going.
Might cook some more VS threads.
Again, why are you flexing? If you want to say that them that naruto outbeats all of the sayan saga to early freeza saga
Didn't we just discussed how that won't work? Do you want people to get banned?Use some Toei characters too, don't be shy
DB doesn't have a lot of good matches tbh as far as I can see, especially after the recent upgrades.That's a one way ticket to the RvR for making intentional spite threads.
The thread I linked is exactly that and look what happened.I wish we had 5-A db still to put barion mode against, one day maybe
Yet he couldn't even beat a Goku who hasn't even been through the saiyan saga yet?Again, why are you flexing? If you want to say that them that naruto outbeats all of the sayan saga to early freeza saga
Idk why that matters so much tho
Why wouldn't it work?Didn't we just discussed how that won't work? Do you want people to get banned?
People are not allowed to make a vs match where one of the characters has zero chance of winning. (ie a stomp). Do this over and over and you're going to get banned, especially when you do this out of hatred for one of the characters.Why wouldn't it work?
I'm surprised DB vs Naruto matches aren't banned yetPeople are not allowed to make a vs match where one of the characters has zero chance of winning. (ie a stomp). Do this over and over and you're going to get banned, especially when you do this out of hatred for one of the characters.
No reason to ban them because there are viable matches between the two verses. Not too long ago I made a Might Guy vs Nappa thread, and also a Gaara vs Vegeta thread.I'm surprised DB vs Naruto matches aren't banned yet
Yes, no one is doubting that. We all knew MUI Goku can stomp most fictional characters. Which is why we put MUI Goku against characters on his level (not Naruto), and Naruto against someone on his level (not Goku)Goku sola Naruto's verse just with the pressure of his ki
How are Boruto characters stomping Manga Z Goku? He's above baseline Solar System levelPeople are not allowed to make a vs match where one of the characters has zero chance of winning. (ie a stomp). Do this over and over and you're going to get banned, especially when you do this out of hatred for one of the characters.
DB Toei characters stomps Naruto (except maybe Saiyan Saga Toei Goku vs Isshiki). Boruto characters stomps OG DB to Manga Z Goku. On cross verse battles we intentionally find match ups where winning is possible for both characters.
Off topic but the DB verse page(s) need some serious rework after the recent changesGoku sola Naruto's verse just with the pressure of his ki
I forgot to specify Saiyan Saga.How are Boruto characters stomping Manga Z Goku? He's above baseline Solar System level
See cannon goku's profileYet he couldn't even beat a Goku who hasn't even been through the saiyan saga yet?