Mystic Eyes of Death Perception 1-A level EE and Dura-Neg

[BasedNecoScaler69]

In the tsukihime remake's Arceuid route,it's explained that the mystic eyes are connected to the root by seeing the end of all existences.
Shiki can also see a being's originating point which is a "thin line" that connects a being to the root, and target it.
Although, Shiki has to be fast enough to cut the lines/points without the target dodging him.

Agree:

Milly_Rocking_Bandit,Artorimachi_Meteoraft,TheKingStrategist13,Strife304,Satanichia_Chlammy_Mafahl​

Disagree:
Neutral:

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Straightforward, I agree.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Straightforward, I agree.

The tsukihime remake is different enough from the original where there's a whole goldmine of feats/statements.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Has anyone made a crt for high godly regen negation for MEODP?

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Has anyone made a crt for high godly regen negation for MEODP?

i believe not, also do you agree or disagree?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

i believe not, also do you agree or disagree?

I agree with the OP but I believe someone said High godly Regen negation MEODP is true but a mod prevented it

 

[TheKingStrategist13]

Although my Type Moon knowledge primarily lie's within the Fate side of Greater Type Moon, this is more than straightforward enough for me to say I agree

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

I agree with the OP but I believe someone said High godly Regen negation MEODP is true but a mod prevented it

it would only be true if the point is targeted i believe, because if you cut the lines, the body remains, but everything else about you is "killed" meanwhile if the point is targeted, everything is "killed". although arceuid had to reconstruct her existence, which changed her personality

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

it would only be true if the point is targeted i believe, because if you cut the lines, the body remains, but everything else about you is "killed" meanwhile if the point is targeted, everything is "killed". although arceuid had to reconstruct her existence, which changed her personality

@Expectro2000xxx said it got accepted In. A previous crt but hasn’t been added yet because lazy

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

@Expectro2000xxx said it got accepted In. A previous crt but hasn’t been added yet because lazy

classic

 

[John985]

There’s no profile for remake yet though…..

 

[Paul_Frank]

There's nothing to even add with this crt, its already accepted since its also the case in the OG timeline not just the remake, there's just nothing to list, since we don't add the tier of hax

There's also no profile for the remake, making this thread doubly pointless

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

There's nothing to even add with this crt, its already accepted since its also the case in the OG timeline not just the remake, there's just nothing to list, since we don't add the tier of hax

There's also no profile for the remake, making this thread doubly pointless

The profile lists shikis mystic eyes as "island level"

Island level (As a Tatari of Wallachia, he should be superior to his White Len manifestation as a more accurate Tatari.), ignores conventional durability with Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

There's nothing to even add with this crt, its already accepted since its also the case in the OG timeline not just the remake, there's just nothing to list, since we don't add the tier of hax

There's also no profile for the remake, making this thread doubly pointless

Also don’t we have already accepted CRT’s to worry about? Since a lot of the accepted crt shit like the lostbelt revision shit got accepted but hasn’t even been added yet onto the wiki

 

[Paul_Frank]

The profile lists shikis mystic eyes as "island level"

No, it lists Shiki as island level physically
His eyes ignore durability

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

No, it lists Shiki as island level physically
His eyes ignore durability

The mystic eyes should still have a seperate tier/key,
Shikis eyes allow him to fight way above his weight class, and I believe hax has been tiered if the hax is a part of a method of attack.

 

[Paul_Frank]

The mystic eyes should still have a seperate tier/key,
Shikis eyes allow him to fight way above his weight class, and I believe hax has been tiered if the hax is a part of a method of attack.

No, no they shouldn't have either a separate tier or key, there's no reason to tier dura neg/death hax

You'd maybe have a case if he was like, EEing a 1-A structure, but his hax just being 1-A does not necessitate a "1-A with MEoDP" rating, because its also not even accurate, he's not hitting with 1-A power or anything, the hax just works up to that level, so putting it in AP is inaccurate, as is putting it in the tier because it also doesn't make him that tier

Also the few profiles that do tier purely hax (and specifically non high scale reality warping) abilities in the AP section or whatever are omegacringe kthanks

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Um I agree with Paul. They'd just be an Island Level smurf. Kind of like how Yhwach's Almighty clearly makes him a Smurf for his tier.

 

[Strife304]

So happy someone finally did it, I agree.

Kara no Kyoukai volume 4 finally wont go to waste after all.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Um I agree with Paul. They'd just be an Island Level smurf. Kind of like how Yhwach's Almighty clearly makes him a Smurf for his tier.

lots of smurfs have separate tiers, though

 

[Strife304]

Yeah, the fact the eyes reach that level of hax needs to be listed there somewhere.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Yeah, the fact the eyes reach that level of hax needs to be listed there somewhere.

for example, featherine is physically 1-b without haxs, but she still has a 1-A key. Im pretty sure the majority of outerverse characters are smurfs

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Listing it there should very well be important.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Yeah, the fact the eyes reach that level of hax needs to be listed there somewhere.

No, we don't do that

for example, featherine is physically 1-b without haxs, but she still has a 1-A key. Im pretty sure the majority of outerverse characters are smurfs

Her 1-A key isn't hax, her 1-A key is an entirely separate form of her, which is 1-A, its in no way comparable to this

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

No, we don't do that



Her 1-A key isn't hax, her 1-A key is an entirely separate form of her, which is 1-A, its in no way comparable to this

its her true form, which has no change in physical strength, but her hax is buffed

 

[Paul_Frank]

its her true form, which has no change in physical strength, but her hax is buffed

No, there is most certainly a change in strength, she exists outside of the layers that bind her previous key
Which is why all of her stats are also higher, not just her hax, her second key is not a hax thing, its a general level of existence thing

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

No, there is most certainly a change in strength, she exists outside of the layers that bind her previous key
Which is why all of her stats are also higher, not just her hax, her second key is not a hax thing, its a general level of existence thing

thats just a heightened existence, which still fits the definition of a smurf, as she has shown no physical capability of destroying a outerverse

 

[Paul_Frank]

thats just a heightened existence, which still fits the definition of a smurf, as she has shown no physical capability of destroying a outerverse

That's the exact opposite of the definition of smurf, are you okay?

An outerverse also isn't a structure you can't destroy one anyway

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

No, we don't do that

Characters with abilities listed higher are done on the wiki all the time. Fate itself does this. Gilgamesh in his first key is literally Tier 6, but Tier 1 with a weapon. A literal beyond infinite gap in strength.

 

[Shmooply]

No, we don't do that

We don't, but it's still an optionable thing that someone can add to a profile. It's not against the standards or anything.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Characters with abilities listed higher are done on the wiki all the time. Fate itself does this. Gilgamesh in his first key is literally Tier 6, but Tier 1 with a weapon. A literal beyond infinite gap in strength.

Yes, because the weapon itself is an entirely separate thing with a tier 1 AP attack, not a part of his body that gives him hax which scale to a higher tier, you'll notice none of the Fate people have just sheer hax listed in their ap for that reason

 

[Shmooply]

Oh wait, you meant in the AP section. Yea, we don't do that.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Yes, because the weapon itself is an entirely separate thing with a tier 1 AP attack, not a part of his body that gives him hax which scale to a higher tier, you'll notice none of the Fate people have just sheer hax listed in their ap for that reason

ea is spiritually linked to gilgamesh, which is why only he can use it

 

[Paul_Frank]

ea is spiritually linked to gilgamesh, which is why only he can use it

This is not only incorrect (Alcides exists and was going to be able to take and use it, Angelica can use it, etc) but irrelevant anyway? I'm not sure what the point of mentioning that is

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Wait, are we talking about AP section, or Tier?

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

This is not only incorrect (Alcides exists and was going to be able to take and use it, Angelica can use it, etc) but irrelevant anyway? I'm not sure what the point of mentioning that is

class cards allow the master to access the servants power for themselves, by using gilgameshs class card, angelica has part of gilgamesh inside her, so doesnt debunk my point

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Wait, are we talking about AP section, or Tier?

ap section

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

shiki's whole profile debunks this argument btw

At least Island level physically (Is physically no different from her normal personality), Outerverse level with her powers (Claimed to be capable of altering reality on a fundamental level, altering its laws and orders, as well as annihilate it with ease. Her power is that of the Swirl Of The Root, the origin and recorder of everything in existence which she manipulates and bends to act as an omnipotent wish-granting device), Can ignore conventional durability with the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception and Power Mimicry (With her Power Mimicry she would have access to every ability in the Nasuverse, many of which ignore Durability)

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

hax can and has granted a character a seperate tier of power, the MEDOP sees the end of existence of all beings connected to the root, and deletes their existence from it.

 

[Satanichia_Chlammy_Mafahl]

Looks good to me, I agree.