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Mother/Earthbound revisions (no it's not what you are thinking)
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Sure.
SoL/FTL Earthbound sounded sus, so we came to 2 choices.
1. Not to use Laser/Light stuff, like Armor implied
2. Even if use Laser/Light stuff, Ness and others are no longer SoL/FTL but Rela+ or Subsonic without Laser/Light stuff
2. It was agreed and I will update, verse page with AP calcs, Gyigas's AP as well since his calc puts him at High 7-C and not 7-C as well as state in verse page instead of High 8-C result 8-B result specifically mid result of calc.
3. Update abilities of characters who should have it updated, in that case, Duster and Kumatora respectively.
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Just a statement of being made of light isn't enough. I'm not sure about Thunder, though, normally I'd say it doesn't work since just being called thunder isn't enough, but Lucas literally gets struck by lightning to learn PK Thunder so maybe. Then again, IIRC PK Thunder misses because it's not an accurate move, is there any way to know it's actually being dodged?
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Lucas actually learned PK Flash via lighting, but I'll be honest Thunder in Earthbound is more realistic than thunder in Pokémon.
If but also Mother 3 characters fought beings who are literally made out of lighting inside of lighting tower.
When PK Thunder misses game states that, so if we want to proove Mother characters being able to dodge lighting we have to: Find a clip where game states that certain character after PK Thunder attack "Dodged Quickly". You know, that thing.
Oh yeah also Ness's resistance to Time Stop... I feel we need to do more to make it legit and not just "Dodged Quickly" what basically is implied gameplay wise on Earthbound. Would definitely require further investigation.
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Armorchompy makes sense to me. Thank you for helping out.
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You want clips showing that one lightning strike is being shown to be dodged right?
May need some time for everyone to find a clip for that.
Meanwhile I do not know if this is good enough for PK Flash or other flashes to be actual light:
PK Flash
For the PSI move in the Super Smash Bros. series, see PK Flash (Super Smash Bros.). PK Flash (Japanese: ＰＫフラッシュ PK Flash), known as PSI Flash in EarthBound, is a PSI ability in EarthBound and Mother 3. It targets all enemies and may cause them to suffer from crying, numbness, feeling strange or...
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Which are similar to effects from a flash bang
Stun grenade - Wikipedia
PK Beam is a beam that does not do damage on "mechanic enemies", which can be hinting the "light" is reflected away on the shiny surface of the metallic object which is the enemy.
PSI
PSI (Psionics) or PK (Psychokinesis) refers to the psychic powers that appear throughout the Mother series. The numerous PSI-wielding allies and enemies throughout the series each have their own array of PSI powers that they are able to draw from. As characters level up, they will gain access to...
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And as a step backward, PK Thunder is almost always effective against machines and mechanical chimeras
PK Thunder
This article is about the offensive PSI in the Mother series. For the Special Move in the Super Smash Bros. series, see PK Thunder (Super Smash Bros.). PK Thunder (Japanese: ＰＫサンダー PK Thunder), known as PSI Thunder in EarthBound, is an offensive PSI ability in all three Mother series games. PK...
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Jasonith at that moment be like:
Yeah, Mother do go realistic when it comes to creating PSI attacks. Anyway, If we would go referencing PK Flash as Stun Greande we should use either Speed of sound or rather the light of that Flashbang? To make sure.You want clips showing that one lightning strike is being shown to be dodged right?
May need some time for everyone to find a clip for that.
Meanwhile I do not know if this is good enough for PK Flash or other flashes to be actual light:
PK Flash has an effect of making "enemies suffer from crying, numbness, feeling strange or they become unconscious".PK Flash
For the PSI move in the Super Smash Bros. series, see PK Flash (Super Smash Bros.). PK Flash (Japanese: ＰＫフラッシュ PK Flash), known as PSI Flash in EarthBound, is a PSI ability in EarthBound and Mother 3. It targets all enemies and may cause them to suffer from crying, numbness, feeling strange or...
Which are similar to effects from a flash bang
Stun grenade - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
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I'm fine with knowing it's possible but a clip would be nice
PK Flash can also kill you on the spot, which a flashbang doesn't do. It doesn't paralize you either.Meanwhile I do not know if this is good enough for PK Flash or other flashes to be actual light:
PK Flash has an effect of making "enemies suffer from crying, numbness, feeling strange or they become unconscious".PK Flash
For the PSI move in the Super Smash Bros. series, see PK Flash (Super Smash Bros.). PK Flash (Japanese: ＰＫフラッシュ PK Flash), known as PSI Flash in EarthBound, is a PSI ability in EarthBound and Mother 3. It targets all enemies and may cause them to suffer from crying, numbness, feeling strange or...
Which are similar to effects from a flash bang
Stun grenade - Wikipedia
Yeah but PK Beam has nothing to do with the other moves being debated here. So that's only one condition for it.PK Beam is a beam that does not do damage on "mechanic enemies", which can be hinting the "light" is reflected away on the shiny surface of the metallic object which is the enemy.
PSI
PSI (Psionics) or PK (Psychokinesis) refers to the psychic powers that appear throughout the Mother series. The numerous PSI-wielding allies and enemies throughout the series each have their own array of PSI powers that they are able to draw from. As characters level up, they will gain access to...
I'm not contesting PK Thunder isn't electricity, I'm just unsure if it's comparable to lightning specifically.And as a step backward, PK Thunder is almost always effective against machines and mechanical chimeras
Which can hint that it is attracted to machines like real lightning strike is attracted to metallic spiky objects.PK Thunder
This article is about the offensive PSI in the Mother series. For the Special Move in the Super Smash Bros. series, see PK Thunder (Super Smash Bros.). PK Thunder (Japanese: ＰＫサンダー PK Thunder), known as PSI Thunder in EarthBound, is an offensive PSI ability in all three Mother series games. PK...
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I believe atm the only thing left is to discuss speed stuff.
I also may suggest do a bit more wording for Ness's Time Stop, cause for now it states that Ness can dodge attacks in Time Stop, however he still can be affected by it and while he can dodge attacks at time stop, but not so often.
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I'm not sure if the time stop thing isn't just game mechanics tbh, considering the game probably treats it as a normal attack
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Makes sense actually.
Considering it's basically Time stopped and then 3 normal attacks at once.
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I'm pretty sure that would be Infinite speed if we were to take it literally lol. Which I uh, don't think we should
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Alright, everything have been added except for Paula's profile. Her profile is closed as much as I unexpected it, sorry for not noticing, but can you open up her for a short time?
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I'll hold it for a few....
let's say days.
Cause it's possible for someone to see changes only now and try to object.
For instance, @Jasonsith recently objected so he can come up with rebuttal.
After few days, this can probably be closed and then someone would need to make CRT for themselves. But now, it's better to play a fair game and wait for someone to give some sort of agreement or disagreement.
let's say days.
Cause it's possible for someone to see changes only now and try to object.
For instance, @Jasonsith recently objected so he can come up with rebuttal.
After few days, this can probably be closed and then someone would need to make CRT for themselves. But now, it's better to play a fair game and wait for someone to give some sort of agreement or disagreement.
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