Master of Shotokan Karate VS A Shinobi of the Yellow Wind

[Gabs22_Gamer]

To celebrate the SF6 trending, I thought of this matchup being possible as an idea (though I don't think it is a good one but well fuck it)

Ryu VS Naruto​

• Sage Mode Naruto will be used here for reference
• SFV-III Ryu will be used here
• Speed is equalized for fair purposes
• Both start 50ft away from each other
• Battle music 1
• Battle music 2

''The answer lies in the heart of battle!'':


The Yellow Wind of Fire:


Vergil comes in and nukes both:

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Bump

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Bump

 

[Noneless21]

Okay, what are Ryu's first moves here? Since you didn't restrict Naruto's rasenshuriken, then he will use that and it won't be pretty if Ryu got hit with that

 

[SamanPatou]

Oh boy, one of the four shonen lords why do I have to go through this.
I'm afraid Naruto's got too much crazy bullshit, let's try to give this a try, although I'm not going to lead the discussion.

Okay, what are Ryu's first moves here? Since you didn't restrict Naruto's rasenshuriken, then he will use that and it won't be pretty if Ryu got hit with that

Well, Ryu starts with.. martial arts, really, or Hadokens if the opponent is far enough from him.

 

[Noneless21]

So rasenshuriken gg? I dunno I'm not an avid Naruto reader.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Post-Kurama bond Naruto usually spam hundred of clones and rasenshuriken which have big AoE.

 

[RanaProGamer]

Naruto gangs up on Ryu with clones and has tones of far range weapons and chakra arms. I doubt this would go into a full on hand to hand combat, which is Ryu’s only edge. Voting Naruto for now.

 

[SamanPatou]

This keeps sounding like a stomp more and more tbh

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Yeah this is borderline stomp for Naruto since he got overwhelming advantage is almost every areas. His rasenshuriken, which he used a lot in this form, is 6-C AoE attack so Ryu cannot dodge it.

It's better to use other keys of Naruto.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Yeah this is borderline stomp for Naruto since he got overwhelming advantage is almost every areas. His rasenshuriken, which he used a lot in this form, is 6-C AoE attack so Ryu cannot dodge it.

It's better to use other keys of Naruto.

Sage Mode is probably better then.

 

[Noneless21]

still, rasenshuriken will make Ryu's day a lot worse than it already is

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

well at least the AP difference won't be that big.

gotta switch when I have the time.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

alright, so I changed to SM Naruto.

hope things are gonna get fairer now

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Bump

 

[SamanPatou]

I'll let Naruto supporters go on and argue first, the guy and his series are too big for me to comment just by eyeballing the file.

Also, I'd appreciate if they could take a look at Might Guy vs Ryu.

 

[Noneless21]

Is this key for Naruto is still at war arc? If it's not then ig he got the toads and proceed to prepare his plan to induce genjutsu to Ryu, but if it's war arc then i think he start with clone attacks and rasengan barrage i think?

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Is this key for Naruto is still at war arc? If it's not then ig he got the toads and proceed to prepare his plan to induce genjutsu to Ryu, but if it's war arc then i think he start with clone attacks and rasengan barrage i think?

this is war arc Naruto, just look at the OP

 

[Noneless21]

ah okay, then he didn;t have ma and pa frogs then, so he probably go make clones and intercept Ryu, realize that Ryu outskill him (I think) in cqc but didn't have much option for his range attack so Naruto will probably resort to range attacks and nuke Ryu

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Naruto doesn't start by using rasengan barrages in SM as far as I recall (except when he used it in his mental battle against Kurama because well circunstances were kinda different)

 

[Noneless21]

Well i didn't said that he start with rasengan right off the bat, I said that he will use his clones to gain info bout Ryu and realize that Ryu kinda didn't have much range attack options so he probably will try to outrange Ryu, that's what I think

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

To be fair Ryu has range options as well if he at least wants to not toy around with the clones in time. (Also since he is a ki user wouldn't he be able to tell how strong Naruto is by sensing him?)

 

[Noneless21]

he probably can, especially Naruto can make clones comparable to him alongside Kurama inside him

 

[SamanPatou]

To be fair Ryu has range options as well if he at least wants to not toy around with the clones in time. (Also since he is a ki user wouldn't he be able to tell how strong Naruto is by sensing him?)

I don't know how many projectiles can Naruto shoot, but Ryu can fire his hadokens in rapid succession and even turn them into beams, and they travel for at least tens of meters.

I think the first thing to determine here is each other's stats. I see that Naruto's got the LS advantage with his Class G, but what about AP? Does anyone know Naruto's scaling chain and from what number does it start?
This Ryu upscales from his past self's 1.2 gigatons feat, and has a few ways to boost the power of his special attacks, although there's no set value.

 

[Noneless21]

I don't know how many projectiles can Naruto shoot, but Ryu can fire his hadokens in rapid succession and even turn them into beams, and they travel for at least tens of meters.

I think the first thing to determine here is each other's stats. I see that Naruto's got the LS advantage with his Class G, but what about AP? Does anyone know Naruto's scaling chain and from what number does it start?
This Ryu upscales from his past self's 1.2 gigatons feat, and has a few ways to boost the power of his special attacks, although there's no set value.

Apperenty Naruto upscale from his rasenshuriken, which is 2,3 gigatons

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

bump

 

[RanaProGamer]

So Naruto is still stronger and has better lifting strength. And he can still overwhelm Ryu with clones of Rasengan Barrage.

 

[SamanPatou]

So we're essentially back to the start, but with the Rasenshuriken being 2.3 gt instead of 6-C?

 

[Noneless21]

i think

anyway, Naruto is a slippery one so I think he can dodge most of Ryu's attack but I could be wrong especially since Ryu is more skilled in cqc

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Bump

 

[Popted2]

Naruto FRA

 

[Noneless21]

Naruto FRA

honestly there's not lotta debate here but i think Naruto can take this? until there's more info bout Ryu anyway so yeah I vote for Naruto

 

[SamanPatou]

From the little input I've got from Naruto, he basically spams clones and nukes the battlefield with Rasenshurikens, correct? The profile also says they deal damage to a cellular level and disrupt Ki, meaning that even physical defense gets negged, right?

Ryu's got little response to that, he's much more of a mundane character, cqc and projectiles, here he in ap, ls, numerical and range disadvantage. Some people here say he outskills Naruto in h2h (something I can't neither confirm nor refute, I know jackshit of Naruto), but I'm not sure that would be enough, given the points above.

Feels like a stomp, tbh.

 

[Noneless21]

Honestly, this Naruto is less likely to use his rasenshuriken mucj since he didn't have the clone at the Myoboku mountain but at this stage he can basically plan his attack so his rasenshuriken get a hit on Ryu, especially since the rasenshuriken can expand itself

 

[SamanPatou]

So, does this Naruto spam clones and nukes or not?

Also, how does the Rasenshuriken target cells and blocks ki, exactly? Does it like, rots away flesh and prevents your Ki from powering you at all, or does it only disrupt ki/chakra-based attacks?

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Honestly, this Naruto is less likely to use his rasenshuriken mucj since he didn't have the clone at the Myoboku mountain but at this stage he can basically plan his attack so his rasenshuriken get a hit on Ryu, especially since the rasenshuriken can expand itself

This key of Naruto doesn't spam FRS across the battlefield but he can sustain SM for a longer period of time compared to his fight with Pain from what I renember.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

or does it only disrupt ki/chakra-based attacks?

it only disrupts and destroys the chakra circulation flow of the victim, aka what allows them to use chakra, but it's quite limited.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

basically the full description of the attack, according to the page:

Rasenshuriken creates countless microscopic wind blades that severely damage the body on a cellular level. It produces so many individual attacks that even Kakashi Hatake is unable to count them all with his Sharingan. The wind blades rupture all the nerve channels of the body, leaving the target unable to move after being hit. They also attack the entire chakra circulation system, which cannot be repaired by any type of medical ninjutsu. Depending on the severity of the injury, the victim may never be able to perform a technique again.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Bump

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Bump

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

This is an easy W for Naruto since he's fought way crazier shit than this, especially since most of the time during the 4th War he fought people stronger and more experienced than himself and won most of the time. Sage Mode combined with his own Analytical Prediction gives him borderline Precog that let's him sense his opponents every move even if he can't see them and it also gives him access to Frog Kata which allows all of his melee attacks to have extended range via invisible Senjutsu and dura neg, not to mention the fact that he can easily replenish his Sage Mode by making some clones to go and gather Nature Energy in case he runs out and on top of all that, he also has access to KCM1 which is even stronger than Sage Mode which he can do at will. Depending on if this is before or after he befriended Kurama, his KCM1 will either be High 7-A or High 7-A+ but either way it's stronger than Sage Mode.

 

[Popted2]

3 votes for Naruto

 

[SamanPatou]

Have I already mentioned the fact this looks like a stomp?

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Have I already mentioned the fact this looks like a stomp?

You said it twice man.

 

[RanaProGamer]

Have I already mentioned the fact this looks like a stomp?

Yeah I'm leaning towards a stomp as well

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

how much is is gonna cost me for this one, sheesh, bad days around to find a good idea.

 

[Noneless21]

I mean both supporter agree that it's pretty much a stomp so yeh