Look at this video.... (metal gear verse stuff)

[Hizack123]

This man just casually scale Snake to Sam quickdraw just by the quote that said snake is the ultimate soldiers without a second thought.

Doesn't even count the point that he legit think that Ocalot can react to light speed laser from Rex without think that is it a aim dodge or not. (or Other factor like maybe Ray can detect heat from Rex and warn Ocalot about it on Cockpit Ui)

 

[Twellas]

Yeah, I know. I talked to the guy in VC, and he's clearly knowledgeable, you can see it from the video itself. The ""problem"" is that he has a different background when it comes to scaling, he doesn't necessarily adhere to all the rules and conventions we use, and thus doesn't really have anything against using statements such as those to scale the verse. It's a different perspective overall, and while I definitely don't agree with the MGR scaling like, at all, you gotta accept that it's not like the "VSBW method is right and everything else is wrong", other approaches are equally valid

 

[Hizack123]

Ok then

But for real tho

Is Light speed Reaction legit or not???

 

[Twellas]

Other factor like maybe Ray can detect heat from Rex and warn Ocalot about it on Cockpit Ui

and what kinda argument is that? RAY was never stated, shown or even hinted to be capable of doing this

 

[Twellas]

Ok then

But for real tho

Is Light speed Reaction legit or not???

I mean, I'm the one who brought up the feat and got it calc'd in the first place.

The wiki would probably never accept it due to it "being too much above everything else in the verse" (which is not really an argument really) but yeah, the feat is legit

 

[Hizack123]

And damn he scale snake to Raiden physically too.

I...i kind of want 7-C snake.

 

[Hizack123]

I mean, I'm the one who brought up the feat and got it calc'd in the first place.

The wiki would probably never accept it due to it "being too much above everything else in the verse" (which is not really an argument really) but yeah, the feat is legit

While i think that reason of "being too much above everything else in the verse" is kind of meh but i still can arguing that is just aim dodge.

 

[Twellas]

Yeah no, that's not legit imo, not at all. It completely breaks the canonical scaling of the verse

 

[Hizack123]

I thought so.

 

[Twellas]

i still can arguing that is just aim dodge.

if you go frame-by-frame you can see that RAY only moves after the laser is fired

 

[Hizack123]

and what kinda argument is that? RAY was never stated, shown or even hinted to be capable of doing this

It just my "other factor"

But yeah.....for a high tech nuke shooting mecha to not have heat detection is kind of.....suck...

I mean even gekko have infrared vision.

 

[Hizack123]

if you go frame-by-frame you can see that RAY only moves after the laser is fired

Ah i see now.

Yeah sound like a outlier....in a verse that still mainly use ballistic weapon that look identical to us too.

 

[Twellas]

That's the thing, outliers are only really a thing in VSBW, why would HE care about "outliers" when there's no clear counter feat or reason to disregard it?

 

[Hizack123]

Unless is just a reaction.

 

[Hizack123]

That's the thing, outliers are only really a thing in VSBW, why would HE care about "outliers" when there's no clear counter feat or reason to disregard it?

yeah i get it now

I thought that he just grab a short video of ray just jump out of the way of laser before it fire or anything like that.

 

[Hizack123]

Hmmm if you do another revision i will support you btw

This actually look legit.

I mean it just reaction.

 

[Twellas]

I was thinking about doing that, but MG has more pressing matters, like AP and Lifting Strength

 

[Hizack123]

I was thinking about doing that, but MG has more pressing matters, like AP and Lifting Strength

Oh you mean big boss holding cocoon over his head? (sorry this is the only thing i thinking about whan talking about lifting Strength + metal gear)

 

[Twellas]

that, and all the other Class K/M feats

 

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[Hizack123]

Oh hey