Lady Bone Demon vs Sosuke Aizen [5-3-0]

[Arcker123]

Whats so special about that?

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Whats so special about that?

Basically freeze anyone under ice. It even couldn't made Wukong get out of the ice (needed outside help like Nezha to destroy the ice from outside)

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Whats so special about that?

Maybe bc Aizen dies as soon as he's hit by her ice blast?

 

[Robo432343]

Aizen's soul crush works on people who have resistance to soul crush

 

[Arcker123]

He just regenerates and adapts

 

[Lloydblitzed]

He just regenerates and adapts

Good luck regenerating from being frozen in place

 

[Lloydblitzed]

He just regenerates and adapts

He can only adapt to what he has shown to be able to adapt to, else its blantly an NLF

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Aizen's soul crush works on people who have resistance to soul crush

Basically it's AP based. Like if the other opponent has higher reiatsu, their soul crush gets higher in potency. It's similar to haxes in Dragon Ball

 

[Sdjlakjh]

He can only adapt to what he has shown to be able to adapt to, else its blantly an NLF

Also I do want to share this statement from Aizen himself regarding Hogyoku

 

[Minaaaa]

why cant aizen just crush her with hado #90

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

That's not how it works. If Soul Crush is limited to how high Aizen's AP is, then by default it won't work on people with far higher AP, no resistances are needed. Its just like DB ngl

No.... that's the case if you already resist RC. She doesn't. You can't resist soul damage without the ability to protect your soul, no matter the AP diff.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

why cant aizen just crush her with hado #90

Cause LBD would just teleport away or mind hax him

 

[Sdjlakjh]

No.... that's the case if you already resist RC. She doesn't. You can't resist soul damage without the ability to protect your soul, no matter the AP diff.

Well LBD has tanked the Samadhi Fire before which pretty much erase souls

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Well LBD has tanked the Samadhi Fire before which pretty much erase souls

Not Soul Damage. I may not be the greatest at explaining things, but you are literally going beyond the profile and on a CRT that has already been approved. If you want to argue her resistance, here is not the place, make a CRT for christ's sake.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Not Soul Damage. I may not be the greatest at explaining things, but you are literally going beyond the profile and on a CRT that has already been approved. If you want to argue her resistance, here is not the place, make a CRT for christ's sake.

Soul erasure > soul damage. You ignored all of my args btw

 

[Minaaaa]

eh not really. resisting one form of soul manipulation doesnt make you unaffected to other forms of it

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Soul erasure > soul damage. You ignored all of my args btw

EE =/= Soul Damage. Also not treated as Soul Manipulation on the profile. Quit ignoring me sometime

 

[Arkenis]

Amazing that Aizen still has no matches on his page. Lady not having fear resistance or soul resistance kinda makes this a stomp or am I missing something?

 

[Catbowtie]

I think the general arguments are that Lady Bone Demon, in a roundabout way, resists Soul Crush.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Amazing that Aizen still has no matches on his page. Lady not having fear resistance or soul resistance kinda makes this a stomp or am I missing something?

This is a stomp. Her wincon is thought-based mind manip, but she dies via passives.

Aizen matches suck because of KS and just standard Bleach problems (soul crush). If we ever get layers on SC, then it would really get bad.

 

[Catbowtie]

Aizen matches suck because of KS and just standard Bleach problems (soul crush). If we ever get layers on SC, then it would really get bad.

(See Garou vs Kenny)

 

[Sdjlakjh]

EE =/= Soul Damage. Also not treated as Soul Manipulation on the profile. Quit ignoring me sometime

You keep ignoring my arguments from above. Even ignored Orange and Lloydblitz's. EE Souls is on a much higher potency than Soul damage, similar to how Hakai work in DB

 

[Sdjlakjh]

I think the general arguments are that Lady Bone Demon, in a roundabout way, resists Soul Crush.

Not exactly cause Aizen's soul crush are only up to 10 meters in range while the starting distance is 20m. So soul crush isn't the only arg here

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

You keep ignoring my arguments from above. Even ignored Orange and Lloydblitz's. EE Souls is on a much higher potency than Soul damage, similar to how Hakai work in DB

Hakai is treated as Soul Destruction, it's on the profile. EE does not equal resistance to all damage.

Also isn't Orange agreeing with me?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

(See Garou vs Kenny)

I remember, of course it was Robo that made it too

 

[Arkenis]

EE Souls is on a much higher potency than Soul damage, similar to how Hakai work in DB

He's responded to this multiple times, I think others have to. You guys clearly disagree on it, I'd wait for others to give their opinion than continue with it. And EE can be on a higher level than damage, it doesn't mean you resist damage now.

 

[Catbowtie]

Does Lady Bone Demon need to see Aizen to use her thought-based hax? Or does it just lock into Aizen? Because couldn't Aizen, using his Super-genius Intelligence, just stealth into range and kill Lady Bone Demon?

He's responded to this multiple times, I think others have to. You guys clearly disagree on it, I'd wait for others to give their opinion than continue with it. And EE can be on a higher level than damage, it doesn't mean you resist damage now.

Not a complete fully coherent thought but: If someone has resistance to Soul Erasure and then gets resistance to all other applications of Soul Manipulation/Damage, I think that's pretty ridiculous.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Hakai is treated as Soul Destruction, it's on the profile. EE does not equal resistance to all damage.

Also isn't Orange agreeing with me?

Hakai is treated as soul destruction because it has shown EE to souls. https://vsbattles.com/threads/does-...e-you-resist-soul-erasure-destruction.171364/

No, orange thinks soul crush can't effect people with higher AP

 

[Aernasilver]

10m? You must be tripping weaker shinigami can crush hollows from 13km away. It’s his EE that is only 10m.

Anyways LBD has nothing on KS and RC.

Edit: Also might as well ask can she mind hax souls?

 

[Sdjlakjh]

He's responded to this multiple times, I think others have to. You guys clearly disagree on it, I'd wait for others to give their opinion than continue with it. And EE can be on a higher level than damage, it doesn't mean you resist damage now.

I already made a full clear on explaination but he decided to ignore it

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Does Lady Bone Demon need to see Aizen to use her thought-based hax? Or does it just lock into Aizen? Because couldn't Aizen, using his Super-genius Intelligence, just stealth into range and kill Lady Bone Demon?

Not a complete fully coherent thought but: If someone has resistance to Soul Erasure and then gets resistance to all other applications of Soul Manipulation/Damage, I think that's pretty ridiculous.

She doesn't need to see Aizen to use her mind hax, as shown with usin on Mei

Not all forms soul manip, only the destruction part https://vsbattles.com/threads/does-...e-you-resist-soul-erasure-destruction.171364/

 

[Sdjlakjh]

10m? You must be tripping weaker shinigami can crush hollows from 13km away. It’s his EE that is only 10m.

Anyways LBD has nothing on KS and RC.

Edit: Also might as well ask can she mind hax souls?

If that's the case, then why Aizen can only effect the normal human if he passes by?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Hakai is treated as soul destruction because it has shown EE to souls. https://vsbattles.com/threads/does-...e-you-resist-soul-erasure-destruction.171364/

This hasn't been shown to do that, not accepted and not shown. It only has EE. You are still going against profiles.

No, orange thinks soul crush can't effect people with higher AP

It was about resisting soul manip in the first place.

I already made a full clear on explaination but he decided to ignore it

I'm gonna lose my shit if I keep hearing this, I've responded to everything, you just keep stonewalling me. Make a goddamn CRT

 

[Catbowtie]

She doesn't need to see Aizen to use her mind hax, as shown with usin on Mei

Lemme see.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

This hasn't been shown to do that, not accepted and not shown. It only has EE. You are still going against profiles.

It was about resisting soul manip in the first place.

I'm gonna lose my shit if I keep hearing this, I've responded to everything, you just keep stonewalling me. Make a goddamn CRT

EE soul > soul damage

And Orange voted for LBD because he believes Soul crush can't effect people with higher AP no matter what

How am I stonewalling you if you never gave a coherent refutation to the aboves? Progress the current dialect at least

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Lemme see.

It's on LBD's vsbw profile 2nd layer mind manip

 

[Sdjlakjh]

@Catbowtie Also if you have checked LBD's range, it is shown that she is omnipresent in 3 universes

 

[Catbowtie]

What is that supposed to tell me?

@'ing non-staff doesn't show on the person's notifications.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

EE soul > soul damage

Soul EE =/= Soul damage. It's like saying EE > all damage. The EE doesn't state that it can erase souls anyway, only destroy reality.

And Orange voted for LBD because he believes Soul crush can't effect people with higher AP no matter what

That's false as Arcker and I said.

How am I stonewalling you if you never gave a coherent refutation to the aboves? Progress the current dialect at least

I have been doing that for the last. 2. Pages. This whole match hinges on this resistance, and from the profile, she literally instantly loses. Now, for the 30th time, make a CRT

 

[Sdjlakjh]

What is that supposed to tell me?

@'ing non-staff doesn't show on the person's notifications.

What you talkin bou?

Uh alright