Lady Bone Demon vs Sosuke Aizen [5-3-0]

[Sdjlakjh]

Lady Bone Demon vs Sosuke Aizen

Rules:
Speed Equalized
Lady Bone Demon only has her base form, so no Mech or Samadhi
Aizen can have all keys
Fight takes place in a busy city
Starting distance: 20m

Lady Bone Demon: @Sdjlakjh, @Hellformer, @Lloydblitzed, @AigerTheKing, @TheOrangeGuy09
Sosuke Aizen: @Catbowtie, @ReaperAndBlues, @UltimateMoment
Inconclusive:

 

[Sdjlakjh]

In my viewpoint, LBD should win this as she can just mind manipulate Aizen and control him. If that doesn't work, she can go summon her ice power and trap him inside

While it's true that Aizen has his transmutation and maybe soul absorp, LBD should still able to pull off the win as her attack has pretty good range and AOE

 

[Lloydblitzed]

What's LDB doing against Soul Crush?

 

[Sdjlakjh]

What's LDB doing against Soul Crush?

She has resisted EE. So she should be fine against it

 

[Sdjlakjh]

She has resisted EE. So she should be fine against it

As I remember, soul crush is simply a passive attack that targets the soul. Since the Samadhi Fire can destroy the universe which includes the Underworld, which has undead souls. And LBD has casually tanked the same fire

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

She has resisted EE. So she should be fine against it

Resistance to EE does not help you against Soul Crush. Like AT ALL.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

As I remember, soul crush is simply a passive attack that targets the soul. Since the Samadhi Fire can destroy the universe which includes the Underworld, which has undead souls. And LBD has casually tanked the same fire

This simply gives Fire NPI and LBD Low Multi-Multi Dura. No resistance to Soul Manip.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Resistance to EE does not help you against Soul Crush. Like AT ALL.

Why? The EE targets the soul. So resisting a soul attack potency should be qualified

Not to mention LBD herself is a ghost, which is basically an undead soul, especially in LMK's context

 

[Sdjlakjh]

This simply gives Fire NPI and LBD Low Multi-Multi Dura. No resistance to Soul Manip.

The Samadhi Fire erases souls... which would be a higher potency than simple soul attack

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Why? The EE targets the soul. So resisting a soul attack potency should be qualified

Not to mention LBD herself is a ghost, which is basically an undead soul, especially in LMK's context

This, again, just gives Fire NPI, not Soul Manip:

It should be noted that the ability to interact with souls and other non-corporeal entities directly as if they were physical objects is usually considered Non-Physical Interaction and does not grant the user the ability to manipulate them in other contexts.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

This, again, just gives Fire NPI, not Soul Manip:

In context of soul crush, it contributes to the destruction part of the souls. The Samadhi Fire has the same category, but with higher potency (as it's literal erasing the soul itself). You can go check her profile qualifies having EE while having the Fire

 

[Sdjlakjh]

This, again, just gives Fire NPI, not Soul Manip:

Also keyword: Usually. But with the context I provided, that usually part is broken down

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

In context of soul crush, it contributes to the destruction part of the souls. The Samadhi Fire has the same category, but with higher potency (as it's literal erasing the soul itself). You can go check her profile qualifies having EE while having the Fire

Again, it simply destroys the universes + ghosts. It is nothing but NPI, sorry. This fire does not directly destroy souls as Soul Manipulation: it simply erases them as if they were physical objects.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Again, it simply destroys the universes + ghosts. It is nothing but NPI, sorry. This fire does not directly destroy souls as Soul Manipulation: it simply erases them as if they were physical objects.

Let me ask you, while would the potency of soul destruction be higher than erasure?

Both targets the soul. And erasing souls as if they were physical objects doesn't seem a logical analog unless you can elaborate further

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Let me ask you, while would the potency of soul destruction be higher than erasure?

Both targets the soul. And erasing souls as if they were physical objects doesn't seem a logical analog unless you can elaborate further

Again:

It should be noted that the ability to interact with souls and other non-corporeal entities directly as if they were physical objects is usually considered Non-Physical Interaction and does not grant the user the ability to manipulate souls in other contexts.

That's what Fire does. It destroys both physical matter AND souls, meaning it simply treats those souls as physical objects. NPI. Simple.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Again:

That's what Fire does. It destroys both physical matter AND souls, meaning it simply treats those souls as physical objects. NPI. Simple.

Does it state erasure or destruction of said objects? Again keyword: Usually

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Does it state erasure or destruction of said objects? Again keyword: Usually

Also it is noted that LBD has actually tanked soul attacks from the staff energy blasts

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Does it state erasure or destruction of said objects?

What? It's your word that it was going to destroy universes.

Again keyword: Usually

This "usually" applies here.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

What? It's your word that it was going to destroy universes.

This "usually" applies here.

Destroy both universe and the souls reside in. It never stated that erasing souls only restricts you only having NPI

Unlikely as from the potency of the Fire compared to simple soul interactions

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Destroy both universe and the souls reside in. It never stated that erasing souls only restricts you only having NPI

Thanks for concession. NPI.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Thanks for concession. NPI.

Did you read my second statement? While would it only restrict to only NPI if your example is just a simple interaction compared to the erasure potency?

Not only that, you completely ignored my other point regarding LBD can tank attacks from the Staff energy blast which also destroyed the souls of Spider queen and her gang

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Did you read my second statement? While would it only restrict to only NPI if your example is just a simple interaction compared to the erasure potency?

Because Soul Manipulation means that the attack should directly destroy the ******* SOULS, and the physical matter should be unaffected. Otherwise it is NPI. You can't have your cake and eat it, sorry buddy.

Not only that, you completely ignored my other point regarding LBD can tank attacks from the Staff energy blast which also destroyed the souls of Spider queen and her gang

If you're talking about this, it is a gag.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Because Soul Manipulation means that the attack should directly destroy the ******* SOULS, and the physical matter should be unaffected. Otherwise it is NPI. You can't have your cake and eat it, sorry buddy.

If you're talking about this, it is a gag.

That logically doesn't make sense, as it wont downgrade anything. So A can target both B and C. So why D only is approved to be an acceptable attack to C if it ignores B? Illogical downgrade

1. It is already approved that it's not a gag in the content revision
2. Not my point, I'm referring to This

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

1. It is already approved that it's not a gag in the content revision

Might as well change that

2. Not my point, I'm referring to This

LBD doesn't look like those ghosts honestly

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Might as well change that

LBD doesn't look like those ghosts honestly

Up to the staff's decision

It is still shown the staff can indeed destroy souls. Which is the same blast that LBD tanked straight on in her weakest form

 

[Lloydblitzed]

It is still shown the staff can indeed destroy souls. Which is the same blast that LBD tanked straight on in her weakest form

Technically the blast was also being amped by the Samadhi Fire and Nezha's Fire Rings so we don't know if it can actually vaporize souls without them

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Technically the blast was also being amped by the Samadhi Fire and Nezha's Fire Rings so we don't know if it can actually vaporize souls without them

Look at the scene I shown. It's mainly when it was used to destroy Spider Queen and her gang's souls

 

[Lloydblitzed]

This is also going to make Aizen very hard to touch

• Reiatsu Concealing Cloak:
  • Enhanced Stealth Mastery & Camouflage (Aizen can completely negate the emission of his Reiatsu, causing him to become unsensible to even Shinigami.[13] He can also intertwine Kido into this cloak which causes him to blend into the environment and conceals his physical appearance[14])

 

[Sdjlakjh]

This is also going to make Aizen very hard to touch

Well when he activate that, he cannot like attack others. it's something he use to like run away or move different positions

 

[Hellformer]

Sdjlakjh seems to make sense. LBD for the win

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Sdjlakjh seems to make sense. LBD for the win

Noted

 

[AigerTheKing]

Can't Aizen just do this and win?

• Holy Manipulation/Purification (Type 2)/BFR/Matter Manipulation (Zanpaktou’s cleanse the souls of evil spirits[1] which are Hollows[2], cleansing their very Reishi particles[3], after which they proceed to either send them to the Soul Society[2] or Hell if they have committed heinous crimes whilst alive[4])

 

[AigerTheKing]

This is also going to make Aizen very hard to touch

LDB can create a blast that reached another Universe, that's not gonna be an issue

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Can't Aizen just do this and win?

Hm I think no since LBD isn't evil. She just doing what she thinks is right, which is helping mortals to get rid of their pain and recreating a perfect universe for them

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Hm I think no since LBD isn't evil. She just doing what she thinks is right, which is helping mortals to get rid of their pain and recreating a perfect universe for them

Killing other villains and laughing it off doesn't sound like a good guy move

 

[Lloydblitzed]

LDB can create a blast that reached another Universe, that's not gonna be an issue

sure

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Killing other villains and laughing it off doesn't sound like a good guy move

It's iffty but her intentions are pretty pure. It's similar to Zamasu

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Basically, Lady Bone Demon did nothing wro-

 

[Minaaaa]

how does she deal with these

• Invisibility (Souls are invisible to those that don't possess Reiryoku or the ability to see souls[7])
• Soul Manipulation/Non-Physical Interaction (Everyone that possesses Reiryoku within Bleach can interact with souls in one way or another[1], Reiatsu directly attacks the soul of those effected by it[15], souls can interact with Senna, an abstract entity comprised entirely of memories[16])
• Sealing, Gravity Manipulation, Weapon Creation, Deconstruction & Space-Time Manipulation (Atomic - Hadō #90: Kurohitsugi is a high level Kidō that seals the target within a massive black rectangle.[16] The coffin then grows spikes to pierce those sealed within it. Aizen's Hadō 90 is stated to atomize anyone within it and causes gravity to distort Space and Time[17])

also the Hogyoku abilities and his vastly higher lifting strength and intelligence

 

[Sdjlakjh]

how does she deal with these

• Invisibility (Souls are invisible to those that don't possess Reiryoku or the ability to see souls[7])
• Soul Manipulation/Non-Physical Interaction (Everyone that possesses Reiryoku within Bleach can interact with souls in one way or another[1], Reiatsu directly attacks the soul of those effected by it[15], souls can interact with Senna, an abstract entity comprised entirely of memories[16])
• Sealing, Gravity Manipulation, Weapon Creation, Deconstruction & Space-Time Manipulation (Atomic - Hadō #90: Kurohitsugi is a high level Kidō that seals the target within a massive black rectangle.[16] The coffin then grows spikes to pierce those sealed within it. Aizen's Hadō 90 is stated to atomize anyone within it and causes gravity to distort Space and Time[17])

also the Hogyoku abilities and his vastly higher lifting strength and intelligence

As for invisibility, I think Aizen is an exception since he was able to be seen by a normal human when he has his hogyoku

LBD already has resist to soul manip in her profile

Also already have resists to those

Remember the fight would be in 20m. Lady Bone Demon has her long range enhanced mind manipulation abilities that can cast illusions on Aizen and do mind control