Ken Kaneki vs Kamen Rider Eternal

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

As i promised in Kaneki vs Akaza, here is the Kamen Rider Eternal vs Ken Kaneki
While i have a good faith for this match, i'm still not sure about it due of Eternal all T2 Gaia Memories strengthened form, but we'll see
If you guys want, i can make them bloodlusted but for now, in-characters mindset

Summary would be added later

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• Low 7-C Eternal with all of T2 Gaia Memories and Post-Dragon Kaneki are used
• Of course, Kaneki Quinques are included here
• Speed are equalized
• Both are in-characters
• Place: Shinjuku Train Station, rainy weather
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• Starting Range: 10 meters
• Win via anything!!
• The Half-Human Half-Ghoul that had experienced "hell": 0
• The First Necro-Over Rider who want to give everyone "hell": 0
• Inconclusive: 0

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VS

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[BERRIES555]

Alright so, Eternal already has a +2x stat advantage, negs Kaneki’s analytical predictions and regeneration, and AZ would be insanely difficult to get around

 

[NikHelton]

I was told that the Eternal ability only applies to the technique

 

[Lonkitt]

I was told that the Eternal ability only applies to the technique

That's in regards to his Power Nul, not the other abilities

 

[NikHelton]

How does it get around regen and combat analysis?

 

[Lonkitt]

The Power Nul doesn’t, it only affects Gaia Memories. I’ll discuss how he does negate the mentioned abilities with what he can use on Kaneki things though. The Xtreme Memory negates regen. When fighting as Eternal, his moves couldn’t be predicted by the Eye Dopant. For context, the the Eye Dopant views his opponents from a multitude of angles and places as to observe one’s muscles and quickly predict what their following moves and/or attacks will be

Eternal couldn’t be predicted even once against the Eyes Dopant which was even pointed out

 

[NikHelton]

how does he bypass regen?

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[Lonkitt]

I.....I just told you. The Xtreme Memory. If he harms Kaneki and there's an injury that could normally be healed, it won't heal

 

[NikHelton]

Judging by the profile, this refers to another character key

 

[BERRIES555]

No, the section where regen negation refers to when Eternal had the Zone Memory which gave him the powers of all Memories. This is the one we’re using

 

[NikHelton]

Ok, but in this case Kanaki can simply avoid damage due to its mobility and greater distance as well (up to a hundred meters)

 

[BERRIES555]

....hundred of meters....profile says dozens of meters

 

[NikHelton]

At the end of the manga, he completely destroyed the almost one hundred meter long tentacle with one attack

 

[BERRIES555]

Two things, I don’t really know if we can use that unless it’s on the profile and I need context for that feat. If it Kaneki hitting a tentacle and it exploding or something like that, yeah that doesn’t make his range hundred of meters.

Eternal has fought ranged fighters before so it’s not like he’ll be worried if Kaneki’s range if hundred of meters. Even then, since Kaneki’s only way of attacking is through Kagune, Eternal can easily counter with AZ or his Bio Manip.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

It should be noted that Eternal AP come from a long scaling chain which begin at the start of the series:

The Low 7-C feat was done by a fodder in episode 1 and Double handle him quite easily. This scaling chain continue with Double become much stronger every episode then eventually gained Extreme Form which is significantly above base form. Eternal at base overwhelmed Extreme Form Double then finish them later on.

All this mean Eternal is having overwhelmingly AP advantage here, just saying.

 

[Lonkitt]

It should be noted that Eternal AP come from a long scaling chain which begin at the start of the series:

The Low 7-C feat was done by a fodder in episode 1 and Double handle him quite easily. This scaling chain continue with Double become much stronger every episode then eventually gained Extreme Form which is significantly above base form. Eternal at base overwhelmed Extreme Form Double then finish them later on.

All this mean Eternal is having overwhelmingly AP advantage here, just saying.

Yeah, we may be looking at getting Gold Xtreme and Full Power Eternal new tiers, but we'll that's for another time. Anyhow, yeah, Eternal has a huge AP advantage here

 

[Lonkitt]

Anyways, here's my take on it.

Aside from having the AP advantage, Kaneki's at several disadvantages here. Katsumi's shown off incredibly noteworthy skill along with statements backing up how skilled him and NEVER are. I favour that a lot over Ken's own intellect/skill feats. Even if the Ghoul is a quick learner, Katsumi's skilled enough to take out the first telekinetic soldier he's ever met who was just finished taking down his fellow team members. Skill won't be an issue here.

If Absolute Zero comes into use, its over for Kaneki. Eternal being capable of forming wings along with his acrobatic prowess pretty much nulls that mobility perk mentioned earlier. The Luna Memory would also enough Katsumi's physical attacks to get some range to them in that regard. Eternal's actually going to be able to properly analyze Kaneki here with the latter sadly not having the same advantages due to the Eternal Memory's nature as well as the Xtreme Memory. The Xtreme Memory negates healing far greater than Ken's own.


Voting Kamen Rider Eternal due to greater AP, versatility, and skill

 

[NikHelton]

Well, if you take into account everything you say, then Kaneki has no chance

 

[Lonkitt]

Yeah, this is most likely a mismatch IMO

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Ah i see

Maybe changing Eternal to Double Extreme form would work?

 

[BERRIES555]

Don’t think so, Xtreme is way more intelligent and skilled, has ranged options, and can still negate regen

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Ah right, Philips

Hmm, i guess Accel wouldn't work as well due of speed blitz?

 

[BERRIES555]

Actually, I think Double riders should be 7-C, I’ll make that CRT soon

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Ah okay

With that, this match should be closed as stomp in Eternal favor