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Jiren's resistance to Existance Erasure
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He at least has what Goku and Frieza has.
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No, being stronger than something =/= you becoming resistant to their haxes.
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I mean tell that to Goku.
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>vegito is so strong candy beam barely works
>goku gets strong enough to break a timeskip
>goku and Frieza through raw power resist existence erasure
Maybe not Hakai, but the thing goku and frieza tanked should be scaled to him.
>goku gets strong enough to break a timeskip
>goku and Frieza through raw power resist existence erasure
Maybe not Hakai, but the thing goku and frieza tanked should be scaled to him.
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Then by this logic, should we give Hit, Toppo, Dyspo, Vegeta and everyone above base Goku this resistance as well?
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Probably.
Toppo is a candidate for the next god of destruction anyway.
Vegeta not sure, I'm not sure if his base is equal to Frieza or Goku.
Toppo is a candidate for the next god of destruction anyway.
Vegeta not sure, I'm not sure if his base is equal to Frieza or Goku.
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Dark, its the fact they resisted it through raw power, anyone above them in power should be able to replicate it, its even saud by Beerus if Goku powered up hed have an easier time.
It wasnt done through some anti-hax power they don't have.
It wasnt done through some anti-hax power they don't have.
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It is when it's done via something those characters are superior in.
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If raw power > hax in DB, then Vegeta and Dabura wouldn't have been mind controlled by Babidi, nor would Gohan and Krillin have been affected by Guldo's Time Stop.
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It is in this case.
Also Vegeta actually resisted.
Also Vegeta actually resisted.
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The only actual case of people in DB resisting hax explicitly by raw power is Goku and Hit's Time Stop.
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How'd Goku and Frieza resist the erasure.
(Also there's gumball Vegito)
(Also there's gumball Vegito)
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"How'd Goku and Frieza resist the erasure."
Via having resistance?
And nothing says Vegito resisted Buu's Candy Beam because he's strong, he just did.
Via having resistance?
And nothing says Vegito resisted Buu's Candy Beam because he's strong, he just did.
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Yeah no, plot isn't a reason.
Otherwise we can chalk it up to PIS and have it removed from their profile.
And why do they have that resistance? As for Vegito, just Because? Nah, that's quite litteraly, not a reason.
Otherwise we can chalk it up to PIS and have it removed from their profile.
And why do they have that resistance? As for Vegito, just Because? Nah, that's quite litteraly, not a reason.
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It's absolutely a reason.
Characters can just have resistances to stuff, we don't need a reason behind it.
Characters can just have resistances to stuff, we don't need a reason behind it.
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It's not though, not here anyway.
You're making less of an argument than I am. Your reason is just because, which is unfounded.
You're making less of an argument than I am. Your reason is just because, which is unfounded.
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You realize characters just having resistances randomly, is hilariously common in fiction right?TheJ-ManRequiem said:
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Yes, but in this case, it's clearly a power thing.
Hence why I said, not here anyway.
Hence why I said, not here anyway.
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Vegito didn't really resist it though. Yes he fought regardless but he was still turned into the candy form.
Real resistance is when someone wouldnt be effected by it at all or come back totally unaffected.
Edit: forgot minor resistances are a thing. Nvm
Real resistance is when someone wouldnt be effected by it at all or come back totally unaffected.
Edit: forgot minor resistances are a thing. Nvm
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It's actually called minor resistance.
You're thinking of something that's basically an immunity.
You're thinking of something that's basically an immunity.
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It really isn't.TheJ-ManRequiem said:
Point me to one thing that says Frieza and Goku resisted the Energy of Destruction through raw power.
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Not really?
They resisted it via power. Saying someone like Jiren or Toppo also couldn't when even base Goku did so is simply incorrect, if its done through sheer power.
It's even said if Goku went blue he'd have an easier time redirecting it like Frieza did.
They resisted it via power. Saying someone like Jiren or Toppo also couldn't when even base Goku did so is simply incorrect, if its done through sheer power.
It's even said if Goku went blue he'd have an easier time redirecting it like Frieza did.
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"They resisted it via power."
Link me to one statement that says that.
Link me to one statement that says that.
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most dragon ball hax only work on weaker being
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The fact that people still use this argument nowadays.SunGodAttun said:
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Even if that were the case, that would be a flaw on the characters with hax rather than the strength of the stronger character.
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This. Its simply the hax not being able to work on stronger opponents in this kind of case.The real cal howard said:
You have to jugde hax on a case by case basis when it comes to this.
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This is simply the case.
Goku and Frieza just have the random resistance to Existence Erasure.
Jiren and the others do not.
This ain't the Saint Seiya Saints or Royal Knights or Creation Trio when scaling resistances to one another is fine due to the nature of the groups. These guys are all separate beings with no real connection to one another.
Goku and Frieza just have the random resistance to Existence Erasure.
Jiren and the others do not.
This ain't the Saint Seiya Saints or Royal Knights or Creation Trio when scaling resistances to one another is fine due to the nature of the groups. These guys are all separate beings with no real connection to one another.
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Frieza kinda says hey, this is how strong I am, this ain't nothing, then proceeds to use his raw strength to redirect it.
Frueza didnt say hey this has ain't gonna work because I resist it, he says let me show you my new power.
Frueza didnt say hey this has ain't gonna work because I resist it, he says let me show you my new power.
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It doesn't really imply he does it by raw strength, just that he has the "power" to resist it.
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It jjust means he has the power to resist it.
EDIT: Ninja'd by Ever.
EDIT: Ninja'd by Ever.
