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At first I was going to make this a pretty bulky post, but I'll be fairly busy this next week, so I'll split it in 3

An Invincible AP upgrade is going to be controversial for the time being, so I'll just work with what we have now

First things first, we've got to change the verse's picture

0.- Presentation

This one doesn't have any text obstructing it and it's quality is better (also these colors are kinda nicer imo)

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1.- Upscaling characters to Low-5 B

1.1 Oliver (Kid Omni-Man)
Already capable of drawing blood from Omni-Man while still developing

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Portrayed to be on equal grounds with Mark after fully developing (Post-Viltrumite War)

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1.2 Robot

Robot is very much supposed to be a viltrumite-tier character

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His drones are capable of withstanding attacks from Mark multiple times

Due to what's at stake he would still be hitting it hard enough to subdue him or even destroy it before he's too hurt, and he has no reason to hold back in space.

Robot's drones would also be able to kill some viltrumites if they ever went to war against him

1.3 Atom Eve
Post-Resurrections Eve should flat out scale to viltrumites



Nuff's said. Tho being fair, she got taken out rather quickly in the Invincible War so that doesn't really count, but she did fairly better against the Thraxan viltrumites after her second amp, managing to fend off a horde of them for a while. Her constructs also notably managed to resist attacks from Ursaal(who should be comparable to her brother, who in turn can give Mark a hard time) prior to her second resurrection, and while they were destroyed, after he second resurrection she should comfortably be able to do much better, she was expecting to fight them again after all. All in all, Ursaal and her brother have a red uniform, which would signify their superiority among the others, as another viltrumite with this same attire also managed to give a Post-Resurrection Invincible a fight(tho admittedly it happened off-screen and Mark was statedly out of practice). At worst it would be an At most

Also someone please make a render out of this, she needs a more badass picture lol

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1.4 Tech Jacket
The fact that while looking for effective weapons against viltrumites not a single Earth hero is considered but him should put him way above all of them. His weapons are also capable of hurting viltrumites:

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The one on this panel being one from the squad sent to subdue Nolan in Thraxa, here we can see they're comparable


And while his armor did get badly damaged from one hit, in all honesty if this was flesh it would just be a bloody nose break like we often see in the series

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Regardless, arguably Zack grows stronger after this fight, as his blasts went from not registering to notably affecting Kregg, a high ranking viltrumite

During the Viltrumite War, Thaedus says he might have to split Tech Jacket and Allen to help their forces in case a viltrumite joins the fight, implying he would be able to hold his own against one, and later on he asks for his help to throw part of the viltrumite warship to space, once again implying relativity


On a related note, Conquest

Just a rephrasing. Simply saying "Stronger than Invincible" doesn't really cut it when he maimed the guy with ease in their first fight and punched a hole through him in the second one. I propose "Far stronger than Invincible". Case in point, that's how Kirkman himself describes the gap

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Yes:
No:
Perhaps:
 
Nuetral on everthing else but compeltely against scaling Eve to Vultrimites

but she did fairly better against the Thraxan viltrumites after her second amp, managing to fend off a horde of them for a while
The Thraxan Vultrimite hybrids wearing white literally don't scale to Vultrimites though....

These guys are said to be weaker than actual grown Vultrimites on panel so they don't actually scale to anyone relevant (Keep in mind they are still weaker even after the first Invasion - Basically implying that they are getting stronger over time which isn't rare or shocking seeing as how they are Thraxan Vultrimite Hybrids that age at an accelerated rate and Vultrimites grown stronger as they grow up [They are mostly kids & Teens who are growing into adults]):
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And not only that they are so ridiculously outclassed by actual Vultrimits on Mark and Nolans level that they unironically die on impact with them - Like they are so weak they not only can't deal damage to Mark nor Nolan nor Alen but they literally die on impact with them.

This would be the equivalent of me scaling to a meters thick Titanium wall because someone who I can fight smashed their head against it and got brain damage without so much as scratching the wall.

Honestly this is like a genuine anti-feat for her scaling to any vultrimite because these guys are ass compared to all of them yet can break her barriers and barely take any damage from her sword swings despite them literally dying on impact with Mark, Nolan and Alen.
Her constructs also notably managed to resist attacks from Ursaal(who should be comparable to her brother, who in turn can give Mark a hard time)
Mark was focused on protecting his daughter and took literally 0 damage from both Ursaal and her brother only had a "Hard time" because he was holding back, the moment he stopped he put her in the ground like a looney toon and squeezed her brothers neck off like it was wet paper.

I don't think Eve scales to these any adult Vultrimite at all, her perfomance against the white shirts should be proof enough

I want to emphasis this just so we can hammer the point in -

These guys are so utterly incapable of matching Mark, Nolan or Alen that they literally die on impact with any of them while dealing 0 damage to them. Even when they bullrush in massive hordes they were unable to deal even the most superficial injuries to Mark, Nolan and Alen

Yet when it comes to Eve, they can break through her shields and constructs like their expensive glass.

If Eve scaled to any of them in a way that mattered, these White Shirt Thraxan Vultrimite Hybrids would be completely incapable of bypassing her shields to any degree, and not only that her construct sword wouldn't break while dealing damage to them
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