In my opinion Zelda verse is one of the most disrespected verses in VS Battle wiki.

[Zant7]

People ignore many words from autors itself from books like Hyrule Historia and Zelda Encyclopedia.

Firstly about gods:

Din, Farore and Nayru: U exactly can see in Oot Deku's tree story words: BEFORE TIME EXISTED AND WHOLE LIFE. So practically they are above time + Notes from Zelda encyclopedia: "when all chaos and nothing yet existed it is said 3 Golden Goddesses created the world. Even HH says that they also created other ones.

Hylia: in Isle of Songs Hylia says to Link ( Fi's translation ): skip to 6:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL72v-iVwrA

(...) at edge of time.

One of her realms ( the skyloftian one ) prepared for Link consists of constelations and galaxies ( when u do it at night ): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4hlNZQNBnk . + in Breath of the wild which action happens definitely after twilight princess she is still alive.

Demise: Fi's decribes him as guy who conquered the Time himself. If u play Skyward Sword fi will confirm this and u know that Fi has encyclopedic knowledge from Hylia. Demise was at his weak form when Link was fighting him because he was in process of draining Zelda's aura. Impa said that and Groose just says her words to Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncjUI0bqqrM skip to 2:36

Triforce: Triforce had power to seal Demise and weaken him as Hylia has done ( it is even said that if Hylia didn't use trifoece she couldn't stop his then ). Zelda encyclopedia says that Labrynna and Holodrum are parralel temporarily existing dimensions and were granted to link by Triforce so Triforce on it's own creates universes with own deities, time, order, sun and stars. And triforce can affect completely another multiverse of Lorule as u see Albw ending.

Windfish: Hmmm reality which also contains own stars, sun, minor deities consumed sealed by nightmares and ceases to exist when u set free Windfish.. please it deserves to higher tier.

Malladus: in zelda encyclopedia it is said that Byrne was seeking power capable of surpassing golden goddesses so that why was seeking to revive Malladus by stealing princess as Hylia's heir to use her as vessel ( not the first time she was stolen to drain power from her so it is zelda's power herself ) and in dark realm u can see that practically malladus was warping reality and underworld is full massive universal/cosmical chaos. Malladus was heading into centre of massive blackhole so u know.

Vaati: ohhhh he is extremely disrespected. When he drained Light Force ( power residing in every princess Zelda ) he with instant thought created pocket moving cosmos below castle consisting practically of local groups, moving glaxies, stars etc. in his own bloody version.he did it twice.

Ganon: Ganon himself was chief of Vaati and he needed more power of 4 sword capable of sealing Vaati but also power of 6 maidens and princess Zelda. Calamity Ganon power blood moon fog he makes all stars dissappear in cosmos in beatiful, blue, cloudless sky. Ganon as Demise's incarnation and his hatred has powers identical to Demise with triforce of power. Ganon tanked Midna's strike which was strong enough to penetrate ( according to HH seal stronger than Master Sword anf TIME ) and seize completely the Triforce. Golden ones were terrified of this power. Ganondorf couldn't be EVEN TOUCHED by depowered Master Sword despite it maintained reality of old Hyrule in time stop ( no matter is night in world above or day in old hyrule day is always ). Ganon's curse of endless night was so strong that casual praries via Wind Waker to GG nothing worked. You needed Treasure of Goddess Nayru to destroy the curse.


I can debunk about many hax guys like Zant or Ghirahim because they deserve to be more respect but think about my thoughts. I will respect your opinions but do not offend me please. I think many guys should have ranking of 2-A or higher because of being above 4th dimension ( time ).

 

[Dust_Collector]

The Golden Goddesses existing before time is already taken into account, it's why they have "Infinite" speed. Creating other worlds is also taken into account, hence the "Low Multiverse level" rating they have.

Edge of time doesn't really mean anything on its own, plus given Nintendo of Americas history with their translations I wouldn't be surprised if Fi doesn't mention anything at all about the "edge of time" in the Japanese version. I also don't see a single constellation or galaxy in that Silent Realm video. And those white dots are likely not stars since stars don't keep repeatedly blinking in and out like that.

Demise "conquering time" doesn't mean anything about his power, it's just a statement about how he's fought both in the past and present.

The Triforce didn't create Labrynna and Holodrum, what are you even talking about? The Hyrule Encyclopedia, and the games, only say that the Triforce transported Link to them not that it created them. They exist in the Light World just like Hyrule and aren't separate dimensions with their own time and space. Also the Triforce doesn't affect the entire multiverse Lorule is in or whatever, it only brings back Lorules Triforce.

The Wind Fish only created an island, nothing else. It's repeatedly stated that only the only was brought into existence and only it will cease to exist once the Wind Fish wakes. Even the ending shows just the island fading away while surrounding ocean and sky stays.

Malladus warps absolutely nothing in the Dark Realm (Plus there's no proof the realm is universe sized) and there's no black holes in the game, the "black hole" you're referring to was just a large purple vortex.

Vaatis feat is currently an outlier since as of right now not even the Triforce has feats remotely close to what Vaati did (However this may change in the future, work is going into a 3-A or possibly Low 2-C Triforce, but right now it's best feat is 4-B). Plus in Four Swords Vaati just warps the clouds and nothing else into the same background as Minish Caps final battle which implies it's an illusion / just an effect. Plus you're also greatly exaggerating the size of it anyway, you say he created galaxies when not a single one is shown in sight.

What the? Calamity Ganon doesn't make all the stars in the sky disappear he's using his magic to make the sky and clouds red which blocks any attempt to see the stars, and he certainly isn't equal to him with just the Triforce of Power. Midna isn't able to penetrate anything "beyond time" so him taking strikes from her doesn't mean much. The Master Sword only maintained the seal on Ganons army, it didn't "sustain Hyrules reality" or anything nonsensical like that.

Now there is a chance for a Universe or Universe level+ Triforce and other top tiers. But all you've done is post hyperbole, exaggerate statements and feats, and just flat out made up stuff (Galaxies in the Silent Realm and Malladus warping an universe).

 

[Antvasima]

@Dust Collector

Thank you for the thorough evaluation. Should we close this thread then?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

You should,we didn't want this to become an shitstorm.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Me, Cal and Tri are searching for evidence for 3-A Zelda and has pretty blatant statement thus far but I don't remember any statement that makes them 2-A.

 

[Dust_Collector]

I think the thread should be closed yes. If Zant7 wants to discuss this further he's free to message me on my wall or message other knowledgeable members on Zelda.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for the help.