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I honestly don't expect to change anything (which is why this isn't a CRT) but I genuinely feel like how Reiatsu Crushing and a lot of other Bleach related stuff is handled on this wiki has a ton of bias behind it.
I know it's propee etiquitte to back up my points with Scans, but I'm already digging through the Naruto manga for an unrelated matter and I'm mainly here to vent and get people talking about this more. So yeah, here we go.
So yeah, where to begin... Oh yeah, the idea that every single attack in Bleach always hits peoples' souls is something I've never agreed with.
I'm not trying to debunk the idea of Bleach characters being able to interact with souls by the way. Soul Reapers and Hollows being able to touch Pluses is more than enough proof of that. No, what I'm saying is that Hollows, Soul Reapers, Quincies, pretty much any other race in Bleach isn't intangible like Pluses are.
Maybe first arc Orihime isn't a good example, again I'm not hunting down scans to help prove my point, but she was able to struggle and fight back against her brother (albeit in vain) before she gained her powers. Pluses however are treated as more traditional ghosts (which makes sense if you consider that people would have been bumping into them and finding out about them eventually while the Soul Reapers need to wipe peoples' memories to keep them from finding out about Hollows, though this could be semantic idk). Either way, I've seen people in Bleach vs threads point out that Soul Reapers are physically tangible and no one's questioned it.
To further this point, I want to mention that Bleach characters are physically made of Reishi, which is accepted to be a form of spiritual matter on this forum (which is why Sklaverei is listed as Matter Manipulation). Since they're already accepted to be physical beings, that are made of matter, that leads to one conclusion for me: They have the same body-soul relationship an alive human would have. If I'm missing something blatant then please remind me of it, because I feel like people have jumped from A to F with their logic instead of A to B.
"But what about Reiryoku and Reiatsu?"
It is true that with Bleach's battle mechanics, having a higher Reiatsu can make a character more durable than one with lesser Reiatsu. It's also true that Reiryoku is a spiritual energy that comes from the soul. But just because they use the words "Spiritual" and "Soul" to describe all of this does not make everything they do with these things bypass physical Durability. These characters fight using physical, tangible bodies, and every effect we've seen Reiatsu have, including Reiatsu Crush, has happened to the character's body. Their bodies may be a different kind of matter than normal, but it should be reasonably assumed to work the same way as conventional matter unless there's good evidence to the contrary.
Anyway, I've said my piece. Hopefully when I wake up later there won't be a flame war here.
I know it's propee etiquitte to back up my points with Scans, but I'm already digging through the Naruto manga for an unrelated matter and I'm mainly here to vent and get people talking about this more. So yeah, here we go.
So yeah, where to begin... Oh yeah, the idea that every single attack in Bleach always hits peoples' souls is something I've never agreed with.
I'm not trying to debunk the idea of Bleach characters being able to interact with souls by the way. Soul Reapers and Hollows being able to touch Pluses is more than enough proof of that. No, what I'm saying is that Hollows, Soul Reapers, Quincies, pretty much any other race in Bleach isn't intangible like Pluses are.
Maybe first arc Orihime isn't a good example, again I'm not hunting down scans to help prove my point, but she was able to struggle and fight back against her brother (albeit in vain) before she gained her powers. Pluses however are treated as more traditional ghosts (which makes sense if you consider that people would have been bumping into them and finding out about them eventually while the Soul Reapers need to wipe peoples' memories to keep them from finding out about Hollows, though this could be semantic idk). Either way, I've seen people in Bleach vs threads point out that Soul Reapers are physically tangible and no one's questioned it.
To further this point, I want to mention that Bleach characters are physically made of Reishi, which is accepted to be a form of spiritual matter on this forum (which is why Sklaverei is listed as Matter Manipulation). Since they're already accepted to be physical beings, that are made of matter, that leads to one conclusion for me: They have the same body-soul relationship an alive human would have. If I'm missing something blatant then please remind me of it, because I feel like people have jumped from A to F with their logic instead of A to B.
"But what about Reiryoku and Reiatsu?"
It is true that with Bleach's battle mechanics, having a higher Reiatsu can make a character more durable than one with lesser Reiatsu. It's also true that Reiryoku is a spiritual energy that comes from the soul. But just because they use the words "Spiritual" and "Soul" to describe all of this does not make everything they do with these things bypass physical Durability. These characters fight using physical, tangible bodies, and every effect we've seen Reiatsu have, including Reiatsu Crush, has happened to the character's body. Their bodies may be a different kind of matter than normal, but it should be reasonably assumed to work the same way as conventional matter unless there's good evidence to the contrary.
Anyway, I've said my piece. Hopefully when I wake up later there won't be a flame war here.