If a tier 0 character gets defeated

[AB1124]

If a character who was ranked as a tier 0 suddenly becomes defeated due to some plot device — where another high tiered (say a tier 1 character) by means of obtaining a device to defeat the tiered 0 character, does that automatically downgrade the tiered 0 character, or does it upgrade the tier 1 character?

I'll give an example.

A supreme creator is implied to be the be-all-end-all of a particular work of fiction. He's untouchable; beyond all dimensions, space and time. Everything comes from him.

Now, there's a tier 1 character who discovers a method to steal the power of the supreme tiered 0 character, and that tiered 1 character then "absorbs" the supreme tiered 0 character.

In general, how does this impact tiering?

And is this why TOAA was dropped from 0 to a 1-A?

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Not necessarily, no.

Tier 0 doesn't actually have anything special compared to the other tiers, really, it's just a level of power at this point, so it isn't supposed to represent Omnipotence or any of that jazz. The thing is that characters who are at this level will more often than not be treated as All-Powerful, Unassailable entities in the context of their verse, but you don't have to do that, and in principle, could just as easily make a verse where Tier 0 characters are fodder.

 

[Newendigo]

If a character surpass a tier 0 the same way a tier 0 surpasses a High 1-A?

 

[Ultima_Reality]

A higher degree of 0.

Yeah that sounds ******* weird but, oh well.

 

[Newendigo]

So people can bring Suggsverse to the wiki....

This is your fault.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Suggsverse isn't anything special either, so I don't really care.

besides that thing is so damn messy and inconsistent that it's borderline impossible to tier by taking into account every concept ot the verse

 

[AB1124]

Please, no. That shit is ridiculous. That's like a really, really bad toon force. LOL

 

[Newendigo]

My high level of precognition tells me that someone at one point, in this specific year, will bring the subject.

This is my message that I send to all of you, use it wisely.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

You are probably the reason they will even bring up the subject though

 

[Agnaa]

Suggsverse is disallowed for other reasons.

 

[Newendigo]

MA PREDICCIÓN!.

I will stop derailing.

 

[Okorito1]

Well, the thing with tier 0's is that. They can't be beaten, thats the point. If they can be beaten then we'd revise them below tier 0, like with alot of stuff from Demonbane, azathoth used to be tier 0 but was dropped down due to proof he can be beaten

 

[Agnaa]

Well, the thing with tier 0's is that. They can't be beaten, thats the point. If they can be beaten then we'd revise them below tier 0, like with alot of stuff from Demonbane, azathoth used to be tier 0 but was dropped down due to proof he can be beaten

That's not how tier 0 works any more, it's just like every other tier now, they can be beaten.

 

[Ugarik]

Does it mean 0 vs 0 is now technically possible?

 

[Ultima_Reality]

I mean, yeah, but those matches are still banned because of controversy and stuff.

 

[Newendigo]

Just realized that this in the Versus Thread Board I'm sorry but what the ****.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Just realized that this in the Versus Thread Board I'm sorry but what the ****.

Common mistake, moved it.

 

[The_Alxhemist]

It means the character was never Tier 0 in the first place

Edit : I just realized this was a year back lmao. My bad

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Dude, this is a necro

 

[The_Alxhemist]

XD just realized

 

[Ovy7]

If they can be beaten then we'd revise them below tier 0, like with alot of stuff from Demonbane, azathoth used to be tier 0 but was dropped down due to proof he can be beaten

Umm, no. Azathoth and all of Demonbane got downgraded because the cosmology doesn't even reach 1-B, let alone the requierments for Azathoth to be tier 0.

 

[Planck69]

It doesn't even hit Tier 1.

 

[Ovy7]

 

[Bernkastelll]

If a character who was ranked as a tier 0 suddenly becomes defeated due to some plot device — where another high tiered (say a tier 1 character) by means of obtaining a device to defeat the tiered 0 character, does that automatically downgrade the tiered 0 character, or does it upgrade the tier 1 character?

upgrade

I'll give an example.

A supreme creator is implied to be the be-all-end-all of a particular work of fiction. He's untouchable; beyond all dimensions, space and time. Everything comes from him.

Now, there's a tier 1 character who discovers a method to steal the power of the supreme tiered 0 character, and that tiered 1 character then "absorbs" the supreme tiered 0 character.

In general, how does this impact tiering?

it doesnt, it just means that the tier 1 is tier 0 now

And is this why TOAA was dropped from 0 to a 1-A?

no, it was due Marvel Cosmology, and tier 0 doesnt means unbeatable, it is just a tier like others, I can make a fishman who is tier 0