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The profile we have now mentions (under the Large Island level key of AP) the occasion that Ganondorf fought Cia and easily wo, but it fails to mention the fact that Cia had the entire Triforce when he did so, or the fact that Ganondorf only had 3/4 of his power at the time, as a quarter of his soul was still locked up.

There was also the occasion when 1/4 of his power took down someone whose job it was to protect the Triforce from evil, and thus should at least be somewhat comparable to it in power.

Lana(who is equal to base Cia) also knew she could never defeat Base Ganondorf, even with her, the Triforce of Power, and the Hyrulean army combined. There is also the fact that he easily defeated Lana in that scenario.


Needless to say, Base Ganondorf needs to be upgraded to 4-B.


And if you're wondering why Ganondorf wanted the Triforce so badly if he's stronger than it, heneeded it to turn into his Ganon form, which is why he was preparing to do so for most of the final battle.
 
This has already been done and rejected, but I'll still try to explain why it's considered PIS.

1. TF>>>>Everything. Like, that's repeated so many times through Zelda series it's not even funny. BASE Ganon, without a quarter of his soul, defeating someone with it is nothing more than PIS.

2. Cia=/=TF. Not sure where did you find it, but simply protecting it doesn't mean she was comparable to it. She could have easily done that via hax which is what the game implies as well.

At most, you could try to argue that Ganon defeating Lana with ToP could upgrade him to High 5-A.
 
1. Really? Because Link to the Past Link is 4-B for the exact same reason and Link Between Worlds Link is 5-A for defeating Yuga, 2 Triforce pieces, and Princess Hilda put together.

2. It was the Guardian of Time, which was Cia and Lana before Ganondorf split them in half.
 
1. Master Sword in ALTTP is generally considered the only exception due to the lore of the game considering it the counter to Triforce users. Even then, the possibility of a downgrade exists. By TF, I mean the full thing.

2. That still doesn't prove that Cia = TF.
 
1. What in the lore even proves that the Triforce is >>>>>> everything in the series?

2. Why would somebody with the job of protecting the Triforce be massively weaker than it?
 
1. The constant "omnipotent" statements.

2. Why would someone with the job of protecting the Triforce be comparable to it? As I said, Cia "protected" it via hax.
 
Honestly I feel like someone should revise the game and reorder the stats. for some reason HW is the only non-canon Zelda media that for some reason scales to the canon games
 
HW is strange. More than non-Canon, Aonuma always stated that it happened in a separate dimension, so it would be a supportive feat for the Golden Goddesses IMO.

The reason we scale HW from main games is because the game just has one decent feat the events of the game happened in the HW dimension but not viceversa
 
1. The reason these hyperboles exist in the first place is to state that the Triforce is >>>>>> anything.

2. Time hax, Lost Woods hax etc.
 
1. And so that's what you use to call it PIS when something IS above the Triforce?

2. Nothing proves the Guardian of Time has those except the fact that her components have the first, and even then only a little.
 
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