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Originally intended to do these with Hiveswap's revisions (including Act 2), but I don't really want to do a revision who would spoil the game as fast as it's out, and enjoying it without collecting feats is just better.
So let's do everything but Hiveswap.
There is some minor stuff to fix MSPAR and John's retcon key, like the lack of ")" on fate hax and an extra "," on causa hax.
Hussies's striking strenght isn't in bold.
Dave has a space too much for one ability, Davesprite miss some commas.
Roxy's profile lacks a space in one of her rating.
Double ")" on Dirk's profile
Dad justification as Cans called "Can", his intelligence section is also nearly non-existent.
Bro's P&A could have a more aesthetic order (like having martial arts first with Superhuman physical stuff and swordmanship).
Same for Bec. Also should lost the fusing weakness since Becsprite isn't part of his profile.
GCat as guardian miswritten. Also same as Bec.
"Snowman is never damaged" is bad grammar. "never was damaged" is good one.
MSPAR lacks some "(" ")" and comma.
Emerging from the Green Sun isn't a feat for GT Dave, since he was kinda dead and his body was starting to become a GT. Also because of Green Sun now being OP.
Jade's weakness of being suceptible to Mind Control isn't one. She doesn't resist it to begin with. I guess we can add a weakness of her being suceptible to animal-based attacks tho (animal manipulation, mind control on them, etc...).
Jane isn't emotionnally weak, the scene it's based on is when Caliborn is talking about her being fat, which in context is after her being mad and sad because of Jake being Jake and her Dad being dead (or so she thinks at the time).
Dirk's Immeasurable justification is about transcending, it should be changed like the others
Calliope need intelligence for her Alt GT self too
Bec Noir and PM's justification of stamina should be changed. Limitless should only be given with statement of it, instead having something like "Godly" or whatever.
Black King need the spatial manipulation Jack has (he has the same scepter), "kill all trolls" isn't death manipulation AT ALL and his whole page is a mess in itself.
Bro should be "Bro Strider"; since well, there's some characters which truly just are called "Bro" and all.
If someone can get a render of First Guardian MSPAR it would be pretty cool
I just think it would be cooler to have the verse page arranged so that it looks like the Umineko or Danganronpa ones.
We could make stuff like just having "Humans" or "Trolls" category with a tabber for "beta kids, alpha kids, others" / "A2 trolls", "A1 trolls", "Hiveswap" (tho A1 trolls would be like 1 troll only).
Idk just think it would be better looking.
Also maybe having a better "power of the verse" description? Some things are still wrong (beyond dimensionnal glitches aren't 100% right, they were corrupting but gradually) and it's really just 2-A and above which are described.
While I would say that it could be because of them remembering he read HS by bit if it was a one-occasion feat, MSPAR was stated to have some sort of "Zap Sense", making him know what to do by moment.
This Precog obviously isn't constant since otherwise MSPAR would just never die from being dumb, however I think it should be enough to get a "Limited Precognition" for them and John.
Also I'm pretty sure making life flourish on a planet is range and never has been AP, even environnemental destruction. Nor is it striking strength.
As such the key should be removed and she should just get a tabber for her normal abilties and one for Trickster mode in her P&A (actually doing a tabber for all GT would also be a good thing).
I think it should be changed to be "possibly Fate Manipulation", since turning a doomed timeline into an Alpha one litteraly mean trying to go against Paradox Space and Lord English's inevitability stuff. And not dooming everyone too.
In Nihkee route (bad ending) MSPAR is ejected from her house, trains with Stelsa etc...
Then when going to Nihkee's house to shows how ripped he became, he instead decides to blitzes his chakras and see what would result (he litteraly see in the infinity of timelines and it's not just him being delusional since these bad endings happened).
In this scene, it says that causality is a river and including all timelines . Meta-Rivers already are litteral fate and plots so it wouldn't be weird to include this.
As such, the justification of type 5 should add that Rivers are litteraly causality too and they should get Causality Manipulation from the same reasonning as the others abilities.
It's basically like Umineko with type 5 Meta-Beings.
Not much to say here. Their justification already covers half of this anyway.
-Lots of clean ups and smol adjustements
-Some pages get news pictures and some get renamed
-The verse page as a whole becomes better
-Limited Precognition for John and MSPAR
-Aranea "healing the timeline" should be Fate Manipulation
-Transcendance Path dudes (Feferi + MSPAR) should get Causality Manipulation and have "causality" added in their type 5 Acausality justification
-Everyone above Transcendance Path dudes should have Acausality type 5 for the same reasons.
So let's do everything but Hiveswap.
Hey, let's have some clean up
We cleaned up trolls, now let's do the rest.There is some minor stuff to fix MSPAR and John's retcon key, like the lack of ")" on fate hax and an extra "," on causa hax.
Hussies's striking strenght isn't in bold.
Dave has a space too much for one ability, Davesprite miss some commas.
Roxy's profile lacks a space in one of her rating.
Double ")" on Dirk's profile
Dad justification as Cans called "Can", his intelligence section is also nearly non-existent.
Bro's P&A could have a more aesthetic order (like having martial arts first with Superhuman physical stuff and swordmanship).
Same for Bec. Also should lost the fusing weakness since Becsprite isn't part of his profile.
GCat as guardian miswritten. Also same as Bec.
"Snowman is never damaged" is bad grammar. "never was damaged" is good one.
MSPAR lacks some "(" ")" and comma.
Justifications n stuff adjustement
Grimdark Rose has no reason to scale to GT Dave, so it should be removed.Emerging from the Green Sun isn't a feat for GT Dave, since he was kinda dead and his body was starting to become a GT. Also because of Green Sun now being OP.
Jade's weakness of being suceptible to Mind Control isn't one. She doesn't resist it to begin with. I guess we can add a weakness of her being suceptible to animal-based attacks tho (animal manipulation, mind control on them, etc...).
Jane isn't emotionnally weak, the scene it's based on is when Caliborn is talking about her being fat, which in context is after her being mad and sad because of Jake being Jake and her Dad being dead (or so she thinks at the time).
Dirk's Immeasurable justification is about transcending, it should be changed like the others
Calliope need intelligence for her Alt GT self too
Bec Noir and PM's justification of stamina should be changed. Limitless should only be given with statement of it, instead having something like "Godly" or whatever.
Black King need the spatial manipulation Jack has (he has the same scepter), "kill all trolls" isn't death manipulation AT ALL and his whole page is a mess in itself.
Changing names of pages
Dad Egbert should be "Dad (Homestuck)", since it's a profile covering both Egbert and Crocker.Bro should be "Bro Strider"; since well, there's some characters which truly just are called "Bro" and all.
Pictures change
Andrew Hussie may need a better picture? I mean the current one isn't even Andrew, it's a fake Andrew put by the character.If someone can get a render of First Guardian MSPAR it would be pretty cool
Changing verse page
This change is 100% aesthetic.I just think it would be cooler to have the verse page arranged so that it looks like the Umineko or Danganronpa ones.
We could make stuff like just having "Humans" or "Trolls" category with a tabber for "beta kids, alpha kids, others" / "A2 trolls", "A1 trolls", "Hiveswap" (tho A1 trolls would be like 1 troll only).
Idk just think it would be better looking.
Also maybe having a better "power of the verse" description? Some things are still wrong (beyond dimensionnal glitches aren't 100% right, they were corrupting but gradually) and it's really just 2-A and above which are described.
Limited Precog for Retcon Powers?
So Thelastmlg said that MSPA should have Precognition based on him knowing that an explosion would happen.While I would say that it could be because of them remembering he read HS by bit if it was a one-occasion feat, MSPAR was stated to have some sort of "Zap Sense", making him know what to do by moment.
This Precog obviously isn't constant since otherwise MSPAR would just never die from being dumb, however I think it should be enough to get a "Limited Precognition" for them and John.
Trickster Mode changes
So I think Jane should lost her Trickster mode key. Trickster Mode is just a transformation which can be done by anyone licking the lolipop (?) Juju and reverts after some time, as shown in Homestuck and Epilogues.Also I'm pretty sure making life flourish on a planet is range and never has been AP, even environnemental destruction. Nor is it striking strength.
As such the key should be removed and she should just get a tabber for her normal abilties and one for Trickster mode in her P&A (actually doing a tabber for all GT would also be a good thing).
Aranea "healing" timeline
Aranea has this "possible Reality Warping and/or Time Manipulation (Believed she could use her powers to turn a doomed timeline into the Alpha timeline)"I think it should be changed to be "possibly Fate Manipulation", since turning a doomed timeline into an Alpha one litteraly mean trying to go against Paradox Space and Lord English's inevitability stuff. And not dooming everyone too.
Causality Manipulation for Transcendance Path dudes + an addition to the type 5
So I replayed Friendsim to have every trolls in mind for Act 2 and I realized that we had Meta-Rivers implied prior to Pesterquest.In Nihkee route (bad ending) MSPAR is ejected from her house, trains with Stelsa etc...
Then when going to Nihkee's house to shows how ripped he became, he instead decides to blitzes his chakras and see what would result (he litteraly see in the infinity of timelines and it's not just him being delusional since these bad endings happened).
In this scene, it says that causality is a river and including all timelines . Meta-Rivers already are litteral fate and plots so it wouldn't be weird to include this.
As such, the justification of type 5 should add that Rivers are litteraly causality too and they should get Causality Manipulation from the same reasonning as the others abilities.
Acausality type 5 for dudes above Transcendance Path ones
Dudes even above the Transcendance Path ones should just get it since they're also above all meta-rivers, which also means Lord English is OPer.It's basically like Umineko with type 5 Meta-Beings.
Not much to say here. Their justification already covers half of this anyway.
Conclusion
So basically here's a summary of everything:-Lots of clean ups and smol adjustements
-Some pages get news pictures and some get renamed
-The verse page as a whole becomes better
-Limited Precognition for John and MSPAR
-Aranea "healing the timeline" should be Fate Manipulation
-Transcendance Path dudes (Feferi + MSPAR) should get Causality Manipulation and have "causality" added in their type 5 Acausality justification
-Everyone above Transcendance Path dudes should have Acausality type 5 for the same reasons.
