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Hiei (Jaganshi) vs Awakened Garou
- Thread starter KGiffoni
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What's Hiei's AP and what do we have Garou's AP at?
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Im voting for Garou as he has reactive evolution(which in turn brings statistic amplification), adaptation, a slight regenerative ability, immortality type 2, and his attacks should be able to incapitate hiei who's defense is just barely multi-continental.
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Garou FRA.
Precog+IR, and Attack Reflection neg pretty much all of Hiei's options.
Precog+IR, and Attack Reflection neg pretty much all of Hiei's options.
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One-shot difference doesn't apply to scaling. Hiei's just unquantifiable above 2.2PT, meaning that Garou is around 10x stronger.
Mindhax might be useful tho.
Mindhax might be useful tho.
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Upper S Class Hiei takes our 500 Sensui level opponents though by his lonesome.
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Okay, I'm going to start this madness.
Hiei's only favorable outcome is mindhax considering he can't do shit against Garou in physical combat, being weaker and not as skilled as Garou.
Would he use the Jagan to mindhax him the moment he notices that?
Hiei's only favorable outcome is mindhax considering he can't do shit against Garou in physical combat, being weaker and not as skilled as Garou.
Would he use the Jagan to mindhax him the moment he notices that?
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As long as mindhax is useful, it's no stomp. If Hiei doesn't use it in-character, it's a decisive win for Garou.
As far as the Dark Tournament and the start of the next arc goes, Hiei doesn't mindhax too often that I'm aware of.
As far as the Dark Tournament and the start of the next arc goes, Hiei doesn't mindhax too often that I'm aware of.
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Garou FRA
I'm certain that One Punch Man story is going to play out like the webcomic. Psykos was stated she was going to take her time trying to brainwash Garou like she did on Orochi. If the story does play out like the webcomic, that obviously it didn't work and Garou resist MindHax.
I'm certain that One Punch Man story is going to play out like the webcomic. Psykos was stated she was going to take her time trying to brainwash Garou like she did on Orochi. If the story does play out like the webcomic, that obviously it didn't work and Garou resist MindHax.
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Out-of-character wincons are room for valid matchups.
Wincon = Tool.
You have the tool = Valid.
You don't have the tool = Stomp.
Not using the tool =/= not having the tool.
Not using the tool = Valid.
Wincon = Tool.
You have the tool = Valid.
You don't have the tool = Stomp.
Not using the tool =/= not having the tool.
Not using the tool = Valid.
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But if that were a case, then it can be easily exploited and an easy victory grab which I believe is kinda bad. It's just like the Medaka case where you can farm wins against her because she always give everyone the first move especially if you are using a character that has 1 hit incap attack as first move. I think OoC should be a considered a stomp.The Calaca said:
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This has been discussed lots of times. It works just like this, otherwise, we'd be looking for every possible caveat to avoid losses to our favorite characters.
If the character doesn't open with hax or doesn't use it before he can get rekt, that's his fault, not the matchup's.
If the character doesn't open with hax or doesn't use it before he can get rekt, that's his fault, not the matchup's.
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Well then, I vote Garou FRA
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The real cal howard said:
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Garou FRA
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Cal, I'm not sure how that changes anything.
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Yeah, how's does that feat translate?
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Garou FRA
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Bump
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Bump
