Goku's NPI

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Goku was previously given the ability to "block intangible attacks" due to deflecting Hit's Flash Fist Crush, which showed to pass through his surroundings. However, this isn't the case.


Hit's technique is stated to "only affect people", i.e. passing through inanimate objects while dealing physical damage to its targets. It essentially has selective intangibility.

Seeing as Hit's attack is only intangible against inanimate objects, Goku blocking it wouldn't be NPI. Goku was also outright incapable of affecting Hit while he was phasing, contradicting his ability to affect intangibility users.

 

[Livinmeme]

you do it for the batle with demobane rigth

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I agree with removing the ability.

 

[Dragomer]

Wrong , it basicaly destroy anything Hit want when he wants, Hit's attack doesn't only work on people, as i'v shown, thread's over.

Hit wasn't phasing, he was in another dimension, so wrong again.

Also Goku doesn't have NPI so that's also wrong, a discussion mod just said we could interpret it like that because he also hit Infinite Zamasu with an attack even if it did no damage.

This whole thread is wrong and pointless.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

That uh

Wasn't this contradicted heavily though

Like isn't the whole point of that attack that it's used to organ bust

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Hmm. Seems pretty straightforward. Agreeing to remove it for now.

 

[Dragomer]

That uh
Wasn't this contradicted heavily though

Like isn't the whole point of that attack that it's used to organ bust

It's so contradicted i just linked a video where it destroy a cliff.

And yes, it's made to organ bust as far as Hit use it, precisely the heart most of the time.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

I was under the impression that it organs busts via targeting the opponent's vital areas.

 

[Dragomer]

I was under the impression that it organs busts via targeting the opponent's vital areas.

Targeting an opponent's vital area is what Hit does with his normal punches and kicks, as said in the U6 tournament, if that's all it was, Hit wouldn't even need the technique, he'd just re-organ bust Goku in CQC.

Honestly this thread should just be closed, it's based on obviously wrong assumption to remove an ability Goku doesn't even have on his profile (NPI).

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

He should have NPI with Ki blast because he made an impact on Infinite Zamasu's body.

 

[Dragomer]

He should have NPI with Ki blast because he made an impact on Infinite Zamasu's body.

I made a seperate thread about that : https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/4181606

 

[AwkguyDB]

Zamasu is speaking facts, the Blast made impact with Zamasu's being but had no effect because it was too weak.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

How is that non-physical interaction though? Goku made contact with Zamasu via energy, not some physical hit.

Thats like saying someone who uses water to hit a fire logia has NPI.

 

[Dragomer]

That's still NPI, you don't have to a physical hit as long as you have anything with NPI.

No, using water to hit a fire logia explicitly temporarily make their body normal physical bodies, if you want give NP negation to Ki blast, i don't care either way though.

This thread should still be closed since Goku doesn't have NPI anyway (....yet.)

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Well I dont see how it is. Energy in and of itself is non-physical and show me a single verse here who has NPI via making contact with a non-corporeal without the use of energy based moves.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

How is that non-physical interaction though? Goku made contact with Zamasu via energy, not some physical hit.

Thats like saying someone who uses water to hit a fire logia has NPI.

It'll still be NPI but with just Ki blast.

 

[AwkguyDB]

How is that non-physical interaction though? Goku made contact with Zamasu via energy, not some physical hit.
Thats like saying someone who uses water to hit a fire logia has NPI.

Interaction with Non Physical/Non Corporeal means that you can engage with these beings. The best you can argue is that Ki is the only way that Goku can interact with NP beings. Here's what Toriyama has to say.

What's the secret of winning in battle? When it comes to battle, the most important thing is ki size, and its control. Of course, "ki" also includes such spiritual power as energy/vigor [genki] and bravery [yuuki], and being in one's right mind [shouki; could also be translated as "true character"]. There's a limit to physical strength, no matter how much you toughen it up, and the only way to overcome that it is with "ki". I think that it was through turning ki into formidable power that Goku drew closer to being the strongest warrior in the universe.

 

[Iisdude1]

Because zamasu is non coporeal, so touching him you would obviously require npi.

 

[Dragomer]

Don't forget that the thread to add NPI (because as i said before, Goku doesn't have it yet so this thread has no real purpose) is there ; https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/4181606#8

 

[Omegas03]

If that CRT gets accepted MUI Goku would stomp EGDB.

 

[Dragomer]

If this gets accepted MUI Goku would stomp EGDB.

My thread or this thread ?

 

[Antoniofer]

Upps, wrong thread.

 

[Omegas03]

My thread or this thread ?

Yours, I worded it terribly lol

 

[Akreious]

Well I dont see how it is. Energy in and of itself is non-physical and show me a single verse here who has NPI via making contact with a non-corporeal without the use of energy based moves.

This argument doesn't even work and is completely moot anyways since characters use the same thing to coat and amp up their physical attacks as their Ki Attacks.

It's like saying Ki Blasts (Made of Ki) can interact with a ghost but your punch can't even though it's completely filled, coated, and directly enhanced by Ki just the same as a Ki Blast.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Well I dont see how it is. Energy in and of itself is non-physical and show me a single verse here who has NPI via making contact with a non-corporeal without the use of energy based moves.

DB characters deflect ki blasts all the time.