Goku is not Universal+

[ShiningSilver2]

Goku SSG Battle of God is Low multiversal, he is stronger than a attack which will destroy the universe, and the universe 7 has 4 different space-time, the living world, the other world, the kaioshin relam and the room of spirit and time

Like Goku absorb the power of the SSG in his base form, Goku Base Battle of god is Low multiversal

 

[Ionliosite]

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Ninja'd by lo

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

This has been covered a million times. Goku is not Low Multiversal because this wiki doesn't consider the various realms in the DB Verse to have different space times.

 

[Planck69]

 

[Firestorm808]

The different realms of universe 7 are all in the same timeline. Changing the past affects all the realms equally in the timeline.

 

[Kin201]

Where is it stated/implied that goku could destroy several universes ?

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Hakai this shit… NOW!

Tbh I was hoping this was a downgrade thread.

 

[AwkguyDB]

That moment when you thought it was downplay only to find wank XD

Bruh

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

If Z and Super weren't so freaking convoluted with each other then maybe they'd be 2-C but U7 has taken so many shapes and sizes it's not even funny.

 

[AwkguyDB]

So freakin true

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Can this be closed now?

 

[LNZO19]

Although I think this is wank, what do you mean that you consider the realms to be the same space time? I mean should that matter when they have been stated and shown on the map to take up space? Unless you are implying that it doesn't then I'd have to disagree.

 

[Purgy]

I concur with the OP.

 

[Badrimoine2019]

I've thought it was a downplay, but apparently it's a massive wank lol

 

[Firestorm808]

As shown by the Future Trunks and the Future Zamazu storyline, the different realms are bound by the same continuity of cause and effect. It's similar to Ben 10 where multiple spacial dimensions are contained in 1 timeline.

 

[DTG499]

I concur with the OP.

lol

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

As shown by the Future Trunks and the Future Zamazu storyline, the different realms are bound by the same continuity of cause and effect. It's similar to Ben 10 where multiple spacial dimensions are contained in 1 timeline.

Plus the shockwaves in BoG which is a double edged sword.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Baseline 2-C at best, btw if the DB Multiverse share the same timeline then Zeno should be downgraded to Universe+

 

[ProudLearner]

Baseline 2-C at best, btw if the DB Multiverse share the same timeline then Zeno should be downgraded to Universe+

Note: We consider the universes in Dragon Ball alternate timespaces relative each other, hence why Zen'ō is rated as 2-C, despite the events in the Goku Black Saga showing parallel timelines encompassing the whole of the multiverse.

The reason for this is that Universe 7 by itself has already been shown to contain parallel space-time continuums within its globe, such as the Room of Spirit and Time, which is still affected by time travel; which proves that the new timelines can encompass other space-times as well, and thus the events in the Future Trunks Saga don't prove anything in the way of the universes being physically connected.

 

[ProudLearner]

Moreover:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Discussion_Rules#Dragon_Ball_Rules

Do not attempt to change the current Dragon Ball cosmology and power ratings without new evidence from an ongoing manga or anime series. We have heard all of the arguments many times before, and are so exhausted of constantly dealing with those topics that bringing them up recurrently leads to nowhere, with the discussion threads being oftentimes closed immediately.

 

[Tylerdietz1]

Don't bother, the mods are hell-bent on ignoring the fact toriyama said the universe is a macrocosm, apparently the guidebooks he wrote are too "inconsistent" for their tastes

 

[GarrixianXD]

Baseline 2-C at best, btw if the DB Multiverse share the same timeline then Zeno should be downgraded to Universe+

Note: We consider the universes in Dragon Ball alternate timespaces relative each other, hence why Zen'ō is rated as 2-C, despite the events in the Goku Black Saga showing parallel timelines encompassing the whole of the multiverse.
The reason for this is that Universe 7 by itself has already been shown to contain parallel space-time continuums within its globe, such as the Room of Spirit and Time, which is still affected by time travel; which proves that the new timelines can encompass other space-times as well, and thus the events in the Future Trunks Saga don't prove anything in the way of the universes being physically connected.

Got it, thank you

 

[Badrimoine2019]

Dosnt the realms share the same time lines as the Universe 7

 

[Badrimoine2019]

I mean aren't they affected by some stuff like Time travel

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Firestorm already explained that Whis changing time in the living world also affected the realm of the Kai.

 

[Badrimoine2019]

Oh than it's low 2-C, by the way this thread should be closed

 

[Omegas03]

Lol, DBH guys got 2-A, it's only time for BoG Goku to be 2-C

 

[Badrimoine2019]

Ummm yah which would never happen

 

[ShivaShakti]

Thats some reverse psychology in the title lmao.

 

[Omegas03]

The same was said about 2-A Heroes yet here we are( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[ShivaShakti]

The same was said about 2-A Heroes yet here we are( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Honestly never would have guessed the justifications for 2-A would be in an old ******* PS2 game

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

The same was said about 2-A Heroes yet here we are( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Oh shit Omegas! Where have you been man? Haven't seen you in a while.