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Damn I keep on forgetting that this is composite....

Well, he stomps in that case.

Until Yong Jae gives us causality manip with Tathagata
 
Creating a single universal space-time is beyond infinitely superior to an infinite 3-dimensional space, much less a multiverse. So no, it isn't unless those space-times don't have a significant size.

Thanks for the answer, so an Universe creation along with its space time would ve more impressive than destroying an Finite Multiverse!!!?
 
Dienomite22 said:
@Chariot190
Regardless, this is composite apparently and Jio has nigh-omniscience apparently so Satan would just start with his own composite GER and hell he could literally spawn 200 quadrillions clones+ with their own GERs, same abilities, durability, speed and attack potency.
Also this again
 
Dienomite22 said:
Not when the mind reading is passive. GER doesn't have a 4D ability, it has an ability that can work in a 4D temporal manipulated enviornment.
It....aint passive, Satan still needs to initiate it. Otherwise he'd have every ability in GoH right now.
 
>GER doesn't have a 4D ability, it has an ability that can work in a 4D temporal manipulated enviornment.

Literally restored 5 seconds of erased time, shit's 4D, not on a tier 2 scale mind, but it's still 4D within tier 3, you can go back through all the GER CRT's if you wish, only reason it doesnt have a tier is not because it's not legit, but rather given a tier/AP to hax aint how it works, still a 4D ability in scope. Also you forget this is composite. Novel GER probaly has pocket reality manipulation.

And again Satan cant copy effects granted by equipment. Which GER most certainly falls under given it needs the requiem arrow.
 
Battler356ushiromiya said:
Thanks for the answer, so an Universe creation along with its space time would ve more impressive than destroying an Finite Multiverse!!!?
Not really. A universe that has finite matter and one that has infinite matter are functionally the same size when taking into account their space-time. So a multiverse is still better.
 
>this is composite apparently and Jio has nigh-omniscience apparently

Look up omniscient on the intelligence page. Straight up says that doesnt go for other verses and is restricted to their own verse.
 
Chariot190 said:
>GER doesn't have a 4D ability, it has an ability that can work in a 4D temporal manipulated enviornment.
Literally restored 5 seconds of erased time, shit's 4D, not on a tier 2 scale mind, but it's still 4D within tier 3, you can go back through all the GER CRT's if you wish, only reason it doesnt have a tier is not because it's not legit, but rather given a tier/AP to hax aint how it works, still a 4D ability in scope. Also you forget this is composite. Novel GER probaly has pocket reality manipulation.

And again Satan cant copy effects granted by equipment. Which GER most certainly falls under given it needs the requiem arrow.
It's an ability of a sentient being, he's copying it. GER is very much sentient and is about as much equipment as a Borrowed Power is (which he copies just fine).
 
Satan is never shown to need to initiate it nor is it ever implied. The way he uses it is he just copies the person he's facing's next ability/power and uses it on them as a way to boast that he is better or can whatever. He shows off by using his opponents abilities in them. It's kind of a weakness because he doesn't use other powers he's copied from other enemies, like he didn't use Daewi's powers on Mori Jin despite copying them minutes before.
 
Except he needs the requim arrow to have the power? And without it he's just GE?

Literally says straight in his weakness page that he cant copy powers granted by equipment, if he copies GER but not the requiem arrow, he's just getting GE.
 
Chariot190 said:
>GER doesn't have a 4D ability, it has an ability that can work in a 4D temporal manipulated enviornment.
Literally restored 5 seconds of erased time, shit's 4D, not on a tier 2 scale mind, but it's still 4D within tier 3, you can go back through all the GER CRT's if you wish, only reason it doesnt have a tier is not because it's not legit, but rather given a tier/AP to hax aint how it works, still a 4D ability in scope. Also you forget this is composite. Novel GER probaly has pocket reality manipulation.

And again Satan cant copy effects granted by equipment. Which GER most certainly falls under given it needs the requiem arrow.
He erased the action of erasing 5 seconds of time, that isn't 4D power in itself. GER is definitely not equipment and satan copied borrowed powers which are essentially stands.
 
Reading comprehension, don't know much clearer I can make this for you. Unless Satan can copy the requiem arrow, he's just getting GE. With the requiem arrow GER just becomes GE. He needs the item, the item Satan cant copy.
 
Not really. A universe that has finite matter and one that has infinite matter are functionally the same size when taking into account their space-time. So a multiverse is still better.

So it needs to have infinite time space as well to be impressive?
 
Chariot190 said:
Except he needs the requim arrow to have the power? And without it he's just GE?
Literally says straight in his weakness page that he cant copy powers granted by equipment, if he copies GER but not the requiem arrow, he's just getting GE.
Much like how Satan copied Daewi's powers over fundamental forces which specifically requires the King of Knox's eye or body in order to use. Didn't matter to Satan.
 
Chariot190 said:
Except he needs the requim arrow to have the power? And without it he's just GE?
Literally says straight in his weakness page that he cant copy powers granted by equipment, if he copies GER but not the requiem arrow, he's just getting GE.
He's copying the ability showcased, not the stand. He copied Daewi Han's gravity manip despite it specifically needing the mind of Okhwang. As long as he sees an ability being performed then he's using it just fine. The only thing he wouldn't be able to copy would be the arrow's ability to make Requiem stands, anything else goes.
 
Chariot190 said:
Reading comprehension, don't know much clearer I can make this for you. Unless Satan can copy the requiem arrow, he's just getting GE. With the requiem arrow GER just becomes GE. He needs the item, the item Satan cant copy.
Satan doesn't care for item requirements when copying powers.
 
>As long as he sees an ability being performed

And he'd see the ability how exactly? You do know memories get thrown out with RTZ too? Diavolo being a special exception. Mista, Trish and Giorno lost their memories, despite RTZ putting everything back several seconds prior to time erase, with Mista reloading his gun again even though he already did it, outside of time erase.
 
Chariot190 said:
Reading comprehension, don't know much clearer I can make this for you. Unless Satan can copy the requiem arrow, he's just getting GE. With the requiem arrow GER just becomes GE. He needs the item, the item Satan cant copy.
He copied Jaebongchim despite it needing a Divine Fruit. He copied Daewi's powers depite them needing Okhwangs mind or body. He doesn't give two ***** about requiring X to have Y.
 
They lost their memories because the time was erased and only Diavolo knows everything that happens within the time erasure and he could witness GER negating his time erasure. That wasn't GER erasing memory.
 
Then I suggest the profile actually specifies that, because it clearly states he cant copy items effects, and the Requiem Arrow is what allows GE to be GER, without it he becomes GE again.
 
>They lost their memories because the time was erased and only Diavolo knows everything that happens within the time erasure and he could witness GER negating his time erasure. That wasn't GER erasing memory.

Do you not know to how read? Mista loaded his gun and took aim before Diavolo erased time. Yet did it again because when GER used RTZ he put them all back several seconds prior to Diavolo erasing time. Several characters actions and memories were gone, not realizing they already did said actions or things were happening again, despite said actions happening before Diavolo erased time. Hell this aint even news, pretty sure Efi was going to give him time rewind for that a few months back.
 
Chariot190 said:
Then I suggest the profile actually specifies that, because it clearly states he cant copy items effects, and the Requiem Arrow is what allows GE to be GER, without it he becomes GE again.
He can't copy item effects in that he isn't copying the Requiem Arrow's ability to make stands any time soon. Anything that functions as its own power, whether it comes from an item or not, is fair game.
 
Again, the profile should actually specify that because as it's worded now, that doesnt seem the case. Not that it matters because again, he's gonna have a hard time copying RTZ when he'll never actually realize RTZ is being or had been used given he doesnt resist c&e manip and Diavolo remembering what happened is the exception not the norm, when Mista Trish and Giorno all forgot anything that happened past the point of RTZ, even though some of it happened before Diavolo time erased.
 
Cool and Diavolo destroyed 5 seconds of time and warped all of space and that didnt stop it.

Or Novel Pucci destryoing the universe and that didnt kill GER either.
 
Sorry if I'm Asking much but if a Universe as per superstring theory exists having 11 dimensions, so will that normally be considered an universe anymore or an Outerverse?
 
Battler356ushiromiya said:
Sorry if I'm Asking much but if a Universe as per superstring theory exists having 11 dimensions, so will that normally be considered an universe anymore or an Outerverse?
It's just Low 2-C since the dimensions are hella tiny.
 
>Satan is faster

Novel GER could react to Novel Pucci using MIH while extremely pissed off, crunching tens of thousands of years into less than a second, accelerating his already MFTL attack speed by billions of times rushing directly at him. Even ignoring infinite speed, GER has MFTL+ feats as well.
 
Satan is MFTL+
GER is Infinite

GER blitzes in speed unequal

Infinite? What a joke

My guy infinite speed isnt even the fastest spd tier in this website. Satan is hella slow compared to other guys in here
 
Hell Novel KQ has a few million C speed feat, and he's a ******* joke compared to someone with around the same speed amping themselves billions of times over, in which GER was like k.

>There's only 1 feat... Diavolo was going to kill him, he negs the offensive

He negged Diavolo's death too, I wouldbt say Diavolo dying counts as an offensive action. Also this is composite GER. has more than just one feat here.
 
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