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Garou vs Jibril (7-1-0)

Phoenks

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Garou vs Jibril

Yeah, another flying opponent, except, Jibril does not fly away but rather, towards you.

Either way ill make the battle take place in new york city, lets see how that goes.

Garou starts off at 7-A, but can get higher via adaptation and tier jumps are allowed.

Speed Equalized but uhh... Jibril is gonna have a hard time in a bit.
 
SpookyShadow said:
Garou via reflecting her strikes back at her and adapting enough to crush and blitz her.
Blitz the character with an ability that gives her infinite speed.... OK.
 
Also no she does not start with that like ever lol.
 
If she is flying towards him it's even worse. He outskills her badly, precogs her attacks and WICF's her into oblivion, slashing her to pieces. Her only troublesome ability would be that Shift stuff, her infinite speed stuff looks like it's only infinite travel speed. And if she underestimates humans then she got a nice opponent, because Garou is a human.

I see she has shitty 7-B durability so probably Garou's poke will vaporize her.
 
She used her infinite speed when dodging an attack I think.

But that means she has to be fast enough to react and use it.

Her airstrikes are also going to be troublesome considering Garou starts at 7-A.
 
After little time he adapts to High 6-C. And he can dodge that shit, or reflect if it's energy based or something.
 
SpookyShadow said:
If she is flying towards him it's even worse. He outskills her badly, precogs her attacks and WICF's her into oblivion, slashing her to pieces. Her only troublesome ability would be that Shift stuff, her infinite speed stuff looks like it's only infinite travel speed. And if she underestimates humans then she got a nice opponent, because Garou is a human.

I see she has shitty 7-B durability so probably Garou's poke will vaporize her.
The infinite speed is from using it in combat. She one-shots Garou beyond what his Regenerationn can cope with using her Airstrikes. Her precognition would likely prompt her to put up her barriers which are High 6-A. She could also opt to fight at range once she gets in any trouble (rather unlikely considering the above) which completely screws Garou over as well.

Not sure it's a stomp but Jibril is definitely taking this.
 
ooo counter-argument.

I dont really care who takes this one, im a big garou and jibril fan.
 
Garou can adapt to High 6-A. That's literally what he did. Saitama had a match with Jibril already and Garou is literally a lightyears more skilled and versatile Saitama in-verse.

Garou also has precog and him adapting would boost his speed to the point where he crushes her. Without that ability, she's only a MHS with no amps. Not to mention he's also capable of moving mid-air.
 
SpookyShadow said:
Garou can adapt to High 6-A. That's literally what he did. Saitama had a match with Jibril already and Garou is literally a lightyears more skilled and versatile Saitama in-verse.
Garou also has precog and him adapting would boost his speed to the point where he crushes her. Without that ability, she's only a MHS with no amps. Not to mention he's also capable of moving mid-air.
Saitama didn't open with a Serious Punch as far as I remember and Garou took some time to adapt to High 6-A (however short it may be). He has pretty good adaptation but not to the point where he can instantaneously scale to an attack that's billions of times stronger than him. Never denied that he's more skilled than Saitama or even Jibril for that matter.

And again, she notices him getting faster (assuming he isn't paste by now) and immediately uses the only technique in her arsenal that can deal with faster opponents and blitzes. It also helps that she has precognition to help her come to his decision.

The fact that she can nuke him from hundreds of miles away doesn't help Garou's case since she could attempt to pull away should the battle be too overwhelming at close quarters.
 
Phoenks said:
Saitamas casual punches are High 6-A
Not really. How casual he is can fluctuate (his casual punch can go from just blasting someone to a few pieces to blowing away mountain ranges) but he definitely isn't constantly High 6-A. Boros in his sealed state can tank one of his puches just fine and continues to do so in his released form just fine. He's High 6-A while somewhat serious and 7-B to 7-A while casual.
 
Garou scales to Boros who's casual attacks are High 6-A due to damaging his ship that endured Saitama's moon jump. He tanked few Saitama's casual attacks, Boros also did that.

She's not noticing guy who's faster than her because the moment she notices that she gets her head obliterated.

Hundreds of miles away is nothing for him with Rel+ speed with amps.

He's miles above Jibril in skill pretty sure.

Don't forget she has 7-B dura and if her forcefield isn't passive she gets blitzed after few seconds he adapts.
 
SpookyShadow said:
Garou scales to Boros who's casual attacks are High 6-A due to damaging his ship that endured Saitama's moon jump. He tanked few Saitama's casual attacks, Boros also did that.
She's not noticing guy who's faster than her because the moment she notices that she gets her head obliterated.

Hundreds of miles away is nothing for him with Rel+ speed with amps.

He's miles above Jibril in skill pretty sure.

Don't forget she has 7-B dura and if her forcefield isn't passive she gets blitzed after few seconds he adapts.
That's his final key not this one. Again, Saitama only showcased High 6-A power after he started getting more serious, which is why Boros is rated as he is for his sealed and unsealed forms.

Speed is equalized, both have precognition and speed amps. Only one of them goes up to Relativistic+ while the other becomes Infinite. The range is a problem for the similar reasons to the match with Iron Man. He has far less maneuverability in air than Jibril who can just blast him at range while dodging him in mid-air.

I definitely agree that he's above Jibril in skill but I doubt she'd let herself stay in that situation for long. Once again, her precognition would likely warn her about the dagers of coming in close.

She starts at range and I highly doubt that she's so reckless that she wouldn't consolidate her defense against an unknown opponent and fly in without her barriers active. Her looking down on humans doesn't translate to not being willing to quickly end a fight with one (conversely, she could opt to take down Garou at range so as to not use extra effort against whom she views as inferior).
 
Saitamas casual punches are atleast High 6-C since he one-shot Orochi with one.
 
Jibril can only use her infinite travel ability to dodge garou if she can react to garou's attacks. Same goes for her shield which isnt passive.
 
Jibril does not have stat amps.

She has an ability that acts as teleportation.
 
Jibril has a racial superiority complex and she would defiently not have her guard up for a human.
 
Phoenks said:
Saitamas casual punches are atleast High 6-C since he one-shot Orochi with one.
Saitama's punches are horrible to scale from,since he normally just scales his power to enough to one-shot(kill when monster, knock out when human).

Even his serious series vary a lot in power, like the Serious strike against Boros x against Elder centipede.

The best we can do is calc the aftermath/ damage caused by his punch
 
Well the thing is he has one-shotted everything with his casual punches so far except Garou and Boros.

The strongest thing he has one-shot with them is Orochi.

So his casual punches should scale to Orochi?
 
When fighting, saitama uses enough speed to blitz and enough strength to one-shot

people who survive his regular punches generally have advantages who stop them from dying instantly to someone with one-shot worthy AP + blitz worthy speed.

Boros and ENW had regen, Garou had enough skill to dodge his punches and counter despite that difference, Rover had unusual durability(brickwall).
 
Phoenks said:
Jibril can only use her infinite travel ability to dodge garou if she can react to garou's attacks.
Same goes for her shield which isnt passive.
And again, speed is equalized. Garou would eventually get faster and force her to use her spatial manipulation which she'd definitely be able to use since he doesn't overwhelm her from the immediate get-go. Never said her shield was passive though.
 
Rover would have died but also had another power.

So yeah pretty sure his casuals are far higher than 7-A
 
If Garou gets to the point of blitzing she wont be able to react to him. Also would she even think to dodge attacks from Garou considering he is human?
 
Phoenks said:
If Garou gets to the point of blitzing she wont be able to react to him. Also would she even think to dodge attacks from Garou considering he is human?
She's not really going to let that happen considering the speed increase isn't instantaneous. She starts getting overwhelmed and uses the only ability in her arsenal suited for that situation immediately.

And at this point you're really overstating how arrogant she'd be towards humans with SBA enabled. Jibril isn't so dumb that she's going to just stand there and get wailed on, what with precognition and the very real possibility of her starting at range since she isn't really a CQC fighter.

And adapting to High 6-C punches when you're 7-A doesn't really mean that a 6-B to High 6-A attack is something in your ballpark. Even if he doesn't die from the attack, Garou's going to initially be injured to the point where Jibril could finish him off.
 
Garou being injured doesn't stop him from going. He has type 2 immortality, extreme stamina and massive pain tolerance.
 
If she gets hit once without a shield she dies.
 
She has 7-B dura. Garou could just play for few seconds and blitz her and kill her with a... shockwaves of his punches
 
SpookyShadow said:
Garou being injured doesn't stop him from going. He has type 2 immortality, extreme stamina and massive pain tolerance.
I'm pretty sure none of those are helping when most of your body is completely gone and mangled beyond any possible use at best. Anyway, we've both given out valid reasons for our preffered character winning so I think we should just wait and see what the others have to say.
 
I would not say easily, Jibril has many ways of ending this before getting stomped
 
Planck69 what does Jibril use first in character?
 
Again, how big are hair Airstrikes? Are they legit made from air? Because if yes, Garou can easily reflect that. If she flies to kill him, he can jump with higher speed via Abandonment or his RE and turn her to mush with a single shockwave of his punch/kick. He also has ranged air slashes.
 
Necromercer said:
Not Planck, but from what I have seen (the anime) she shoots lasers a lot.
I'd say she's more likely to start with light blade.
 
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